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Mo Clarett vs Beanie Wells

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Who is Better on Field RB

  • Mo Clarett

    Votes: 66 30.4%

  • Beanie Wells

    Votes: 151 69.6%
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Worm02;1094565; said:
Beanie will have the longer career, but Ohio State has never seen anything like Clarett, the first freshman to EVER start his first game at Ohio State.
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I believe Orlando Pace was the starting left tackle from the day he arrived on campus, unless you are talking only about running backs.
 
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Gatorubet;1094712; said:
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There's no Ding Whining in BP...
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:lol:

I love that movie.
 
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txbuckeye1983;1094791; said:
Personally, I would take Beanie because he has been far more productive than Mo ever was during his time here. Beanie has been a leader, and a warrior. Mo was none of these.
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I believe MoC has the all time freshman rushing record. He is also sixth on the single game yardage list. To insist Beanie has been "far more productive than Mo ever was" is inaccurate. Mo sat out games, true, but you are the first person I've ever heard question his heart during his freshman year. The kid was banged up quite a bit, seeing as how he was pretty much our whole offense. No offense to Krenzel or Jenkins/Gamble, but c'mon. It was no where near the same team with Mo on the sideline. HE is the one that was in JT's ear to run that wheel route vs. scUM. The guy was a leader, granted, he was on a team full of them, but he was one of them.

EDIT: Keep in mind that Mo's freshman rushing record is 100 yds better than Robert Smith, whom I'd imagine most on here would argue is better than Beanie at this point. Just my .02.
 
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Worm02;1094565; said:
Beanie will have the longer career, but Ohio State has never seen anything like Clarett, the first freshman to EVER start his first game at Ohio State.
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Yeah, but Ohio State has never and will never again see someone like Beanie.

6-1, 240 pound manchilds running in the 4.4s don't come every day.
 
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BUCKYLE;1094795; said:
I believe MoC has the all time freshman rushing record. He is also sixth on the single game yardage list. To insist Beanie has been "far more productive than Mo ever was" is inaccurate. Mo sat out games, true, but you are the first person I've ever heard question his heart during his freshman year. The kid was banged up quite a bit, seeing as how he was pretty much our whole offense. No offense to Krenzel or Jenkins/Gamble, but c'mon. It was no where near the same team with Mo on the sideline. HE is the one that was in JT's ear to run that wheel route vs. scUM. The guy was a leader, granted, he was on a team full of them, but he was one of them.

EDIT: Keep in mind that Mo's freshman rushing record is 100 yds better than Robert Smith, whom I'd imagine most on here would argue is better than Beanie at this point. Just my .02.
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could not agree more, on point bro.
 
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[quote='BusNative;109532;3]Mo was great, but he also had the benefit of timing. Beanie had Pittman in front of him.[/quote]

Actually, if you check the stats...

1. Clarett's production in 2002 > Pittman's production in 2006.
2. Lydell Ross' production in 2002 > Beanie's production in 2006.
3. Maurice Hall's production in 2002 > Mo Wells' production in 2006.
4. Krenzel's rushing yardage total in 2002 > Troy Smith's rushing yardage total in 2006.

The 4 above from 02 outgained the 4 above from 06 by 400+ yards & 8 TDs. Clarett wore defenses down from the start, while Beanie had the luxury of running against tired defenses when he was put in. If anything, Beanie had the bigger benefit of timing. He played a few games with a messed up ankle, and Clarett played a few while suffering from a stinger. The 02 Bucks also beat a team that was better than the one that the 06 Bucks eventually lost big to.

Stats from both years can be found by clicking on the links below.

2002
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2006
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Worm02;1094565; said:
As somebody who grauated with Clarett from Warren Harding in 2002, his situation is very saddening. I can't knock Beanie for traveling down the road that he's traveling, but Clarett was the most talented tailback of my time... period. On the field, he dominated from high school through college at a much higher degree than Beanie did.

People can say that Beanie had Pitt in front of him, but Clarett had Lydell Ross & Maurice Hall in front of him. Before you knock them, remember that people thought very highly of Ross before Clarett got there. The same can be said for Hall, who is still one of Ohio's (HS) all time leading rushers from what he did at Columbus Brookhaven.

When Clarett came in, you hardly heard anything else from them in 2002. They did decent against Cincinnati when Clarett wasn't there, but it wasn't the same. Whether you realize it or not, Clarett's presence brought the best out of everybody. That 2002 squad didn't have the star power on offense that 2007 did, but they were better in the long run because they had so many hungry leaders on that team. No, you can't just point the finger to one player for winning the 03 NCG, but they don't come close to that game w/out Clarett. That 02 Miami squad was considered one of the best ever, and they were far more hyped up than LSU is now. With so many players currently in the NFL today, you can see why.

Beanie will have the longer career, but Ohio State has never seen anything like Clarett, the first freshman to EVER start his first game at Ohio State.
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Sounds like you know the guy pretty well, so I will respect this opnion of yours. Clarett had plenty of talent and came into the program at the right time. I remember watching him for the first time and finally answering questions in my mind if the hype was legit about Mo. It was. But so was all the other baggage.
When I first saw Beanie get his carries, I also had questions about the hype. (#1 RB recruit) It appeared to me that Beanie didnt make the initial impact that Mo had. And partly because the system was run differently. If you were to put Beanie in as starter as a freshman, would the results be better or worse than Mo's freshman year? We will never know. But I do know this, Maurice Clarett was never a leader. He was a "conditional" leader when everything was all good. I remember seeing Mo arguing with coaches on the sidleline and throwing little boy fits. I have yet to see Beanine do this. No doubt Mo's play on Sean Taylor and his OT touchdown were pivital plays in th NC game, but that isnt enough for me to call him a leader. Nor is a freshamn rushing record. Some will argue his presence made him a leader. I guess we all have different definitions of the word.
But the bottom line is that I would choose Beanie everytime to run the ball for me. And I hope this coming year will show Beanie as an invitee in New York City.
History is the conclusive judge. :osu:
 
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What an extremely difficult question to answer. If there would have been no injury at Wisconsin and the subsequent meltdown of MoC, he might have challenged Archie for the greatest RB ever at the Ohio State University. That alone is worth never forgetting the year he had in 2002. I'm actually getting a stomach ache as I type this as I told numerous people that they were watching an eventual 2-time Heisman trophy winner on Saturdays. So sad. :(

Beanie comes along and we remember the greatness. The way he just mauls people, throws them down and then outruns them is a reminder of our glory days and who could ever go against that?! I love watching Beanie run and I loved watching Mo run as well. If Beanie were to stay all 4 years, very unlikely, then this conversation would probably be easier to hash out.

As of now I'm going to go with MoC. Which one has the ring?! As of now we all know who. Ask this question this time next season, I hope there is a different answer.
 
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Worm02;1095497; said:
Actually, if you check the stats...

1. Clarett's production in 2002 > Pittman's production in 2006.
2. Lydell Ross' production in 2002 > Beanie's production in 2006.
3. Maurice Hall's production in 2002 > Mo Wells' production in 2006.
4. Krenzel's rushing yardage total in 2002 > Troy Smith's rushing yardage total in 2006.

The 4 above from 02 outgained the 4 above from 06 by 400+ yards & 8 TDs. Clarett wore defenses down from the start, while Beanie had the luxury of running against tired defenses when he was put in. If anything, Beanie had the bigger benefit of timing. He played a few games with a messed up ankle, and Clarett played a few while suffering from a stinger. The 02 Bucks also beat a team that was better than the one that the 06 Bucks eventually lost big to.

Stats from both years can be found by clicking on the links below.

2002
Football Statistics

2006
Football Statistics
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02 had a SIGNIFICANTLY better d as well. which factored heavily into not only how often and for how long the offense had the ball. but also how aggressive the offense had to be in order to win the game.

oh and in 06, beanie was primarily a 3rd and short and goal line back. hardly when the d was "tired" and certainly not the best opportunity for big rushing yardage.
 
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