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Mike Dontonio (get off my lawn!!!)

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MililaniBuckeye;2102742; said:
UFM was working under SEC rules then...likely the main reason for his burn-out.
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I was never one who complained, I never found anything that reprehensive(though I did make fun of the Sharrif Floyd dream). I just always though he was a damned good coach and it sucked coming in second place to him. In any event, agreed...you gotta eat or be eaten down south (and in Kansas/Michigan now).
 
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This makes me laugh because I earn a fraction of what these guys earn...but what if I went to my boss and said "hey these other bankers keep calling my clients and trying to get them to move to them" or "well Johnny is number one in the nation at what he does because he works more than 40 hours a week" I would get fired...

The truth of the B1G's over all weekness is revealed....the league's coaches have been complacent, Tress hypnotized them into drooling zombies and Bulemia is the worst fat ass offender.
 
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There is a level at which I understand and appreciate the "gentleman's approach" to recruiting, just as I do with the game itself. All thins being equal I like that approach. But nice guys do finish last. Jim Tressel was a perennial candidate for "nice guy of the year". Urban Meyer is not.

I also appreciate Dantonio's frustration. Imagine playing a pick up game of football where you are one of the two captains who chooses sides. When it gets down to the last three picks the other captain says "I don't want any more of those kids. Instead I will take the first three you picked and you can have what's left."

IMO Dantonio's frustration isn't so much that recruiting shouldn't happen the way Meyer is doing it as it is that he knows he couldn't pull it off if he tried. (And he would respond in kind if he could.)
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2102742; said:
UFM was working under SEC rules then...likely the main reason for his burn-out.
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I have said this before and I'll say it again. UFM is raising the bar in the Big Ten. He started by paying assistant coaches more. Then he is recruiting harder. In spring he'll be training harder. Fall he'll be running the game at 100 MPH and never taking the foot of the gas. Friday Night Lights will come to Ohio Stadium. Ohio State will start to look (even more) like rock stars. There will be swagger and style. Come BCS time Ohio State will start making noise (not this year but every year there after). I am not saying raining crystal trophies but in the conversation and winning big games. The complete dominance of the SEC in the BCS started in 2006 with - Urban Meyer. He raised the bar and the conference responded, but not by crying.
 
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Dantonio's complaints ring hollow, as pointed out by Tony Gerdeman.

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But Dantonio didn't see it that way, telling the Detroit News, "They've got a new coach, and it's different. I would say it's pretty unethical, in the end."

Interesting.

Mark Dantonio thinks recruiting a committed player is unethical. Then why did he have Wisconsin commit Kyle Dodson in for an official visit in January? Why did he and his staff continue to call Buckeye commit Tyvis Powell?

Why was a Spartan assistant coach at Cincinnati Taft trying to get an in-home visit with Adolphus Washington over a month after he had committed to Ohio State?

Is it selective ethics? Do as I say, not as I do?

Or maybe Dantonio is just getting forgetful these days.

After all, when he took the Michigan State job in 2007, he got a commitment from a linebacker who had been committed to Minnesota. That linebacker? Just some nobody named Greg Jones.

But it was understandable. Even though Minnesota was by far Jones' favorite, once Glen Mason got fired, he found himself without the coach that he had committed to. Enter Dantonio.

Was it unethical? Or was it merely just a change of situation for everybody involved?

Jones isn't alone in players that Dantonio has flipped, but I'm not going to go through all of them here.

What I would rather talk about is the polar shift in how Dantonio feels about the rules and boundaries given to new head coaches.

When he left Ohio State to take the head coaching job at Cincinnati in 2004, he revoked every scholarship offer to the Bearcats' verbal commits that he inherited. So of all people, he should understand new staffs and how they have to recruit.


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ORD_Buckeye;2102686; said:
Everybody gets the plunger. Fucking everybody. And when we're done raping them with the plunger, we beat them upside the skull with it.
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Fuck yes. Scorched earth. And when we're done we make them tell us how much they liked it.
 
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Here are the full quotes from Dantonio.

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Mark Dantonio speaking in general on Wednesday:
"I would say it's pretty unethical. You ask people for a commitment, you ask for people's trust, ask for people to make a commitment to you, but then you turn around and say it's OK to go back after somebody else's commitment. That's a double standard.

"Everybody's got a job to do, there's a lot of pressure, but we're all grown men and we're trying to do a job, just like society today in every respect, whether it's a reporter or doctor or lawyer or somebody else. People are gonna try and do their job, they're gonna do what they have to do to get it done sometimes."


Specifically on Urban Meyer:

?They've got a new coach, there's differences when a new coach comes in. It's a new testing of the waters, but it's a two-way street, it's always a two-way street. There's always gotta be the other person listening, too. I think when it becomes a matter of twisting somebody, when you're a 50-year-old man or 40-year-old man twisting a 17-year-old, that's when it's wrong.

"I'm not saying that's happening in the Big Ten Conference, but I see that happening around the country. That happens when somebody decommits on the day of signing day and you've got to wonder about that."
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From listening to Andre Woodson's comments on TexPN's story about the matter...

Dare I say it....

The Ohio State University now has....

an ESPN card?!?

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The hiring of Meyer isn't genius. It's mad scientist genius. Gene Smith should win another AD of the year award....

Think about it - Meyer worked for TexPN.....they love the guy at the 'World Wide Leader'.....now, the university that pretty much got bent over at the waist by TexPN has an unofficial tie to TexPN....

Lovin this. Pretty much, Sparty and Bucky can suck it. You guys can play the TexPN card any damn time you want to, LOL...

How can WE be down for one of those?!?
 
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alexhortdog95;2103279; said:
The hiring of Meyer isn't genius. It's mad scientist genius. Gene Smith should win another AD of the year award....
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Agree with the former half. The latter half doesn't apply. Gene didn't do the hiring. Wexner, Schottenstein and Gee personally handled UM's hiring and contract.
 
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