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HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

Howard threw for over 300 yards with 2 TD and no interceptions, and he got the ball into JJ and Egbuka's hands regularly (combined for just under 200 yds with 2TD). His QB rating last night was higher than Gabriel's. I can see Trey, but Quin had a horrible game last night and averaged 1.9 yards a carry. I love the kid so far this year, but last night Oregon had his number, and he wasn't the solution to anything.

I think Q had whatever rumored hand injury leading up to this game, and after the fumble they seemed hesitant to put him in on anything other than passing or short yardage to gain a few and fall forward. I thought he'd have a big game and didn't seem himself.

The final drive was great up until the OPI. I liked the pass to Smith on the last drive, as with Simmons done they were less likely to pick up a decent amount of yards with a run and still have to burn a timeout. Refs could just as easily called holding on a run. It was an unlucky penalty due to a weak DB getting bodied when he tried to jam. He sold it and it just didn't go OSU's way. Day or someone in Day's ear needs to know the clock rules, but it seems odd that the refs would spot the ball and immediately run the clock without notifying both teams. Especially at the end of the game. Once there was 6 seconds to go, you're asking for a miracle. They're not hitting a 55 yarder, and as soon as Howard hesitated to throw the quick out, it was over.

The main thing that concerns me is the defensive staff possibly not being on the same page. You can't win like that and heads need to roll if they're not willing to put their egos aside and work with each other.

I'm a big fan of Day. I really want to see him succeed because, well, it means OSU succeeds. I also think he's a good blend of Tressel and Meyer. Even keeled and less likely to burn out than Meyer, but more aggressive and a better recruiter than Tressel. I still see that, but time is running out for him to deliver. No one is going to believe he can get it done until he does. The only frustrating part in all this are fans continuing to talk out of both sides of their mouths when it comes to Michigan. When OSU wins, they're dirtbag cheaters who pulled off one of the biggest cheating scams in college history. Obviously that's true. But when OSU losses, Day is John Cooper and either Michigan didn't cheat or Day was supposed to overcome 3 years of cheating anyway and beat them. Because like it or not, without that cheating, Day is close to what Urban Meyer was here.

Can't blame anyone who is frustrated and tired of the almosts and wants a fresh start. If you can't figure out a way to win with this combination of talent and experience, it feels like he never will. At this point I'm close to wanting a fresh start just so I can enjoy talking about the games and my favorite team again, and not have everything boil down to whether the coach is a choker, soft, etc.

This is way easier said than done.

Some people who overachieve at places do so due to having less pressure.

There are countless stories of someone doing well at a mid-major or lower P5 who didn't work out at a higher profile job.

At the end of the day, if the person you replace Day with doesn't win a title, it's a bust of a hire.

@Tomateaux Quinoa Gumbeaux sums up my opinion on replacing him perfectly. If you replace him with anyone other than a coach who wins 1 or more titles in 5 years, it's a failure. The odds of immediately finding another coach who wins the games he does, PLUS at least 50% of the ones he doesn't, is close to zero. It's a really tough spot being caught between some success, but not enough.

As for finding the guy that does less with more, Florida hired coaches who succeeded at CSU and Lafayette, and they fell flat on their faces. Fans were clamoring for Peterson to replace Tressel after the terrible post season runs of 06-08, and when he finally went to Washington he went 55-26, won a few conference titles, 0 top tier bowl games and retired.

If Day keeps failing in these big games, patience will run out and he'll be fired. It'll take care of itself. But I really hope he can find a way to get over the hump because I don't trust this AD to hire a moving target in the dark.
 
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I want to see some flaming hot questions from the press. I want to see how he responds.

“Coach, you are now 1-7 against top 5 teams. If you were the AD would you fire a coach like that?”

“Coach, please explain how you finish the game with an unused time out left. That seems like awful game management which is your responsibility, correct?”

“Coach, with such a stacked roster how do you explain comments like ‘we hope to be close in the 4th quarter’ when you would never hear Saban, Meyer or even Kirby talk like that? Do you think the teams soft mentality may be from that soft attitude of yours?”

I want flames.
I'll give it a shot....

"I was saving the final time out to set up a field goal, but my fifth-year quarterback decided to go off script, scrambled around when his only legitimate option was to throw a pass, and burned the final six seconds off the clock."

"We were playing a night game in a hostile environment three time zones away against the #3 team in the country with an equally stacked roster, including the possible Heisman Trophy winner. And we lost by one point, thanks in part to my fifth-year quarterback's questionable decisions on the last play of the game (see above)."

"As far as the first question, right back at you: My overall record is 61-9, I don't lose by 30 points to unranked teams, and the main reason I'm even playing top-5 competition is because my teams have made the playoffs three times in five years. I recruit at the highest level, I send many players to the NFL (which makes them lots and lots of money), I've helped increase the value of the Ohio State brand to $2 billion (which makes the school lots and lots of money), and unlike most of my predecessors I run a scandal-free program. And don't even get me started on replay officials and advanced scouting...."

Some people need to get some perspective: Yes, Ohio State is a blue blood program, but the Buckeyes have only six major national championships in 133 seasons of playing football (1942; 1954; 1957; 1968; 2002; 2014). The standard at Ohio State shouldn't be "National Championship of Bust!" Ryan Day may never win a national championship at Ohio State, but beware of firing a top-5 head coach, especially when you have few (if any) better choices.
 
I say LJ goes at the end of the season. Should’ve been gone end of last season. Knowles gets 1 more year to implement his system without LJ in the way.

Frye, not sure. Line looks better this season, which may be Chip’s influence. 26 recruiting looking good early.

I mean, I think last year was the off-season to make those moves - why do the wheels need to come off before a tire gets changed? If LJ is truly the issue, shame on Day for letting this linger for 4 seasons of true. Giving the whole thing the benefit of the doubt, hopefully it's not true and LJ is a team player.

I'll give it a shot....

"I was saving the final time out to set up a field goal, but my fifth-year quarterback decided to go off script, scrambled around when his only legitimate option was to throw a pass, and burned the final six seconds off the clock."

"We were playing a night game in a hostile environment three time zones away against the #3 team in the country with an equally stacked roster, including the possible Heisman Trophy winner. And we lost by one point, thanks in part to my fifth-year quarterback's questionable decisions on the last play of the game (see above)."

"As far as the first question, right back at you: My overall record is 61-9, I don't lose by 30 points to unranked teams, and the main reason I'm even playing top-5 competition is because my teams have made the playoffs three times in five years. I recruit at the highest level, I send many players to the NFL (which makes them lots and lots of money), I've helped increase the value of the Ohio State brand to $2 billion (which makes the school lots and lots of money), and unlike most of my predecessors I run a scandal-free program. And don't even get me started on replay officials and advanced scouting...."

Some people need to get some perspective: Yes, Ohio State is a blue blood program, but the Buckeyes have only six major national championships in 133 seasons of playing football (1942; 1954; 1957; 1968; 2002; 2014). The standard at Ohio State shouldn't be "National Championship of Bust!" Ryan Day may never win a national championship at Ohio State, but beware of firing a top-5 head coach, especially when you have few (if any) better choices.
My only bitch is, two of the three things that can happen on a pass are bad (until door #4 is opened to your point :lol:) but why not run and call a timeout? That's a big risk to get 4 yards on an out. I figure like most of you a slant is automatic with our talent but that was not the call. Why not run when you are in FG range instead of taking OPI? It's all hindsight, I like staying on the attack but Days game plan shouldn't be to steal it at the last minute when things can, and seemingly lately always, go wrong at the worst times.

Put your guys in a better position to succeed and learn the rules.
 
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Yes, Ohio State is a blue blood program, but the Buckeyes have only six major national championships in 133 seasons of playing football (1942; 1954; 1957; 1968; 2002; 2014). The standard at Ohio State shouldn't be "National Championship of Bust!" Ryan Day may never win a national championship at Ohio State, but beware of firing a top-5 head coach, especially when you have few (if any) better choices.
Nick Saban really messed up a lot of CFB fan's heads.
 
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If Day keeps failing in these big games, patience will run out and he'll be fired. It'll take care of itself. But I really hope he can find a way to get over the hump because I don't trust this AD to hire a moving target in the dark.

Can't underestimate that last part. Bjork has proven nothing, and his handling of the Jimbo extension and firing was a catastrophic disaster that should have immediately disqualified him from consideration for the Ohio State job. Supposedly, he was handpicked by Carter, and I'm far from sold on Carter so far. If we had Andy Geiger or GS in the Captain Kirk chair making the call on a replacement, I'd feel comfortable. I have no confidence in Bjork getting it right.

Urban ain't coming back, and besides, the powers that be made it abundantly clear already that he'd worn out his welcome. Vrabel has flat out stated that he doesn't want to coach college and won't recruit. Cignetti seems promising, but college football is littered with examples of up and coming coaches who fell on their faces when given the keys to a blueblood. Actually, Lanning is the only home run hire out there, and he's not leaving Uncle Phil's money.
 
Cignetti seems promising, but college football is littered with examples of up and coming coaches who fell on their faces when given the keys to a blueblood
Cignetti needs to prove more than go 5-0 against a bunch of scrubs to consider replacing a coach who has never lost more than 2 games a season.

I think Cignetti is the real deal for what it's worth, but it's not like you guys are losing 4-6 games a year and need to replace someone direly.

Way too thin of a resume for a guy who is proven to be able to win regularly at a highest level, but maybe can't get over the hump.
 
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