NorthCoastKid
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Yeah, some members of the fanbase need to give up the Marcus Freeman ghost. It ain't happening.
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jakenick06
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Wow, I see our fanbase is going to beat this Marcus Freeman story to absolute death. Going to ND, I don't see Freeman ever coming to OSU as a DC! He's already a DC at a comparable school. And for all of the eople who claim Fickell isn't leaving UC because of family being so big, Freeman has just as many kids as Fickell!
And if we're going to continue this tired story line let's bring up the other one too. Replace Coombs with Corey Raymond
Oh and Elias Rick's is going to transfer to OSU as well
That about sums up every yearly OSU coaching hire and transfer
I beg your fucking pardon???????????????? LMAO
Fuck Notre Dame
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bukIpower
Head Coach
The guy played for OSU and coached for Fick who coached and played at OSU. Not sure what's so outlandish about saying he'd be a good person to go after should there be a move????? If you think ND is comparable to OSU there's bigger issues here.Wow, I see our fanbase is going to beat this Marcus Freeman story to absolute death. Going to ND, I don't see Freeman ever coming to OSU as a DC! He's already a DC at a comparable school. And for all of the eople who claim Fickell isn't leaving UC because of family being so big, Freeman has just as many kids as Fickell!
And if we're going to continue this tired story line let's bring up the other one too. Replace Coombs with Corey Raymond
Oh and Elias Rick's is going to transfer to OSU as well
That about sums up every yearly OSU coaching hire and transfer
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The same tired argument of saying he's coming to OSU has been going on for 4yrs now. That's great that he's an alum who coached under another alum.
And if you don't see being a DC at ND and then becoming one at OSU as nothing more than a lateral move, than you've got some bigger issues. ND recruits nationally like OSU, and can match any offer OSU throws out. He's not at UC, he's at a big boy program, and he has big boy facilities as well. I would've agreed with you had he not went to ND. And he's definitely not leaving there after year 1 and they're in the top 10.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
You are probably correct concerning a lateral move; however, it wouldn't surprise me if he left Notre Dame after this season for a head coaching position, etc. The way they are firing coaches this season, there are bound to be some opportunities.
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You don't think James Franklin's next move is a lateral one, even to USC if he does? Freeman going home to Ohio State is not a long-shot by any stretch of the imagination. Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Alabama, USC, Michigan, etc., are all the same approximate level. Hell, you could say Ohio State is at a higher level than Notre Dame seeing as we have more national titles (since 1950), the highest win percentage of all time, most weeks at #1 in the AP poll all-time, the second most wins of all time, tied with them for the most Heisman Trophy winners, a two-to-one win ratio against them head-to-head, etc. Now, I'm not saying the Freeman will eventually come home to Ohio State, but to say that he never will is nonsense.
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Ped St to USC is not a lateral move. USC is a better, for one, better talent in the area. Franklin at USC doesn't even have to leave a 1-2hr radius of campus and get a multitude of 5stars. He has an amazing pipeline at a top 2-3 HS football program in Mater Dei, and that's about an hour away! Try and only recruit PA and see how well you do at Ped St. They NEED to recruit the DMV, NJ, OH and parts of the southeast. Recruiting is the lifeblood of your program.
What @ScriptOhio said is much more realistic. Freeman going to be a HC at a lower tier school than leaving one DC position for another. And no, being DC at OSU and ND is pretty much equal. And saying he doesn't come to OSU as a DC is actually realistic, especially as it seems that he wants his career to move upward, and doesn't strike me as a career DC. So the only way I see him at OSU is as a HC.
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ShowMeBuck
You know what? Chicken butt.
PSU to USC isn’t a lateral move at all. He hasn’t been able to get past the Buckeyes and has had somewhat difficulty with the rest of the division. The PAC 12 is wide open. And yes there are good recruits in PA but there are a whole lot more in Cali. You can win easier at USC. For all the grief Franklin gets, he actually puts a tough, physical team on the field. And when he has some offensive stars he’s dangerous. With that formula he can challenge for the PAC 12 every year.
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If PSU had a competent OL within the last 5 years, they’d have been legit title contenders. It’s odd how well he recruits the OL, but he hasn’t had a halfway decent unit.
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Uh, yeah it is. If you can "win easier" at USC, then why has USC had at least three losses a year since 2012 (except for last year win they played only six games), and in five of those years have gone 7-6, 8-6, 5-7, 8-5, and so far this year 4-5. USC has had three years out of 10 where they've won 10+ games (11, 10, and 10). Penn State has won 11 games in three of the last six.
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Whoever believes Notre Dame to Ohio State is a lateral move should see their way out the BP door.
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If you think Lane Kiffin, Clay Helton, Coach O and Steve Sarkisian were going to lead any program to sustained success, than IDK what to tell you. If OSU had that list of coaches instead of Urban, we could've been in the same boat. CA has more talent in state than PA by a mile! So not sure how you're thinking USC isn't a better job...
Can offer coaches equal compensation, both can benefit from high pre season rankings, both get national elite talent. If ND wasn't seen as lateral to OSU, than Freeman would've already been here. And coaches like Urban wouldn't list it as their dream job. So no, not seeing myself out of anything. I hate ND only slightly less than I hate scUM, but to not see the power that coaching there has on resumes(and in in recruits homes, etc) is quite foolish
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So, USC needs the absolute best possible coach to turn to top level again. OK.
And the talent "in-state" means zilch when ranking how a college does in football. Look at where Ohio State is, and the vast majority of starters are from out of state...
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A defensive coordinator on the verge of getting head coaching jobs and deciding to not start over another school has almost nothing to do with whether or not the two schools are on equal footing.
One school has been elite for most of 50 years. The other has gone almost a decade at a time without truly being a top program.
No one said it was a bad job. That doesn't make it one of the three or four schools that smoke every other program in America when it comes to talent acquisition.
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