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Columbus Blue Jackets (Official Thread)

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OSU_D/;2018616; said:
I haven't lived in Cbus for a while. With the yearly failure that is this franchise, is there any talk about it leaving? How is the game attendance?
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There's actually lots of talk about the city trying to get the Jackets a new lease deal so they can stay for a long time. :lol:

Crowds are bad, but any team outside of Toronto or Winnipeg would have low attendance with this start. People are very irritated.
 
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3074326;2018618; said:
There's actually lots of talk about the city trying to get the Jackets a new lease deal so they can stay for a long time. :lol:

Crowds are bad, but any team outside of Toronto or Winnipeg would have low attendance with this start. People are very irritated.
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Thanks!

I think having the Blue Jackets is good for the city of Columbus, its image and as an activity for the people in the area. However, if they left it wouldn't exactly bother me as I like the thought of OSU being that dominant in the market. Maybe I say that as I was there for the first 2 expansion years and never developed a real passion for the teams as I was already rooting for another team (not the Red Wings either).
 
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over on hfboards, there are some idiots who want GMSH to trade away nash....wtf? here is my response to this thread:

seriously, why the **** is this still a thread? there is no way in hell management would even consider trading the face of their franchise who is in the prime of his career. if this were to happen any time soon, id say that 75% of the remaining fan base would ditch this team. nash has done wonders for this team both on and off the ice. he just doesnt have the supporting cast. seriously, look at teams who have won the cup in the past and their depth in star players -
boston: thomas, chara, seguin, lucic, bergeron, etc
chicago: toews, kane, sharp, hossa, seabrook, keith, etc
pittsburgh: crosby, malkin, staal, guerin, kunitz, letang, gonchar (then he was good), fluery, etc
detroit: hossa, zetterberg (sp?), datsyuk, cleary, etc

if this franchise ever wants to be a cup contender, this proves that management must go after guys that WILL produce.
yes, management took a step forward in making positive moves to get carter and wiz and sign prospal, but they also took a step back in resigning certain players (*cough* tyutin *cough*) and not resigning decent players (hejda) or going after a goalie to challenge the head case we have between the pipes. If GMSH wants to show how committed he is to this team, then he needs to follow suit like all of those cup winning teams i listed above, and build depth. not build depth with unproven AHLers (like they continue to "try" to do because quite frankly, that hasnt quite worked out the last 11 years), rather build depth with proven players who will produce and lead this team to victory. if no moves are made and we start winning once wiz and carter are back, fine. but if this continues over the next month, GMSH better pack up his **** and gtfo of town before the truly loyal fans start a kill or capture manhunt for him. just my two cents.
 
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OSU_D/;2018616; said:
I haven't lived in Cbus for a while. With the yearly failure that is this franchise, is there any talk about it leaving? How is the game attendance?
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3074326;2018618; said:
There's actually lots of talk about the city trying to get the Jackets a new lease deal so they can stay for a long time. :lol:

Crowds are bad, but any team outside of Toronto or Winnipeg would have low attendance with this start. People are very irritated.
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I think they already have the deal in place with Nationwide INC taking a 30% stake in the team or something like that along with revenues from the as yet to be completed casinos.

Think of it this way, Detroit is 6-1 and doesn't draw shit until Colorado, Toronto, Shitzburgh, Chicago and maybe Columbus show up or until the March/April time frame when the team is dominant.

Attendance isn't the driving factor as much as there being a stable league-wide TV deal that shares that revenue. Once they get the lease figured out, the gate will be profit.

Eventually the franchise will come around once they get a GM who understands how to build the farm system. People probably don't remember when Florida went from an expansion team to the Stanley Cup finals in 3+ seasons - and where have they been since? It's all about the minors and getting the feeder system established. For every Rick Nash or Patrick Kane, there are 5 Datsyuks and Zetterburgs who need to play their way through the minors before they get to the NHL. It takes a while and you don't know you have a good feeder system until you're actually winning and able to plug players in (much like Detroit and Boston have done)....
 
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Personally, I just think Nash isn't nearly worth his contract. He's a piece to the puzzle of a contending team. He's not the leader of one.

Yes, he's a terrific talent and he's in his prime. But this team isn't ready to compete and doesn't look like it will be anytime soon. They can get great value for him now, get his contract off the books and build for 2-3 years from now.

This "Win Now!" philosophy just isn't working. They keep trying to put band aids on huge problems for short-term success. Its time to blow it up and build from scratch. And if that starts with moving Nash for some draft picks or prospects, then I (as a fan that actually goes to a lot of games) can get behind it.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;2018819; said:
I think they already have the deal in place with Nationwide INC taking a 30% stake in the team or something like that along with revenues from the as yet to be completed casinos.
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This is what really pisses me off...the dispatch and the arena district throw a huge fit about having the casino in the arena district and ultimately set the stage to have the casino moved to the hilltop area...they were afraid of the potential crime and prostitution it would bring so lets move it to the west edge of the hilltop (the most abandoned area a year ago in the US) where there is no crime or prostitution at all.....ya ok...and after we move the casino lets force them to fall under columbus taxes, not franklington, to help pay for the blue jackets...the same casino that most of the arena district and the dispatch wanted 20 miles away from them will ultimately save the blue jackets ass in the long run...the profits both would of benefited from if the casino was built down the street from the arena would of been even greater...its stupid...i never want to see the blue jackets leave but if they do i will be laughing hard at the dispatch and mayor coleman while im at the craps table in the hilltop
 
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OH10;2018838; said:
Personally, I just think Nash isn't nearly worth his contract. He's a piece to the puzzle of a contending team. He's not the leader of one.

Yes, he's a terrific talent and he's in his prime. But this team isn't ready to compete and doesn't look like it will be anytime soon. They can get great value for him now, get his contract off the books and build for 2-3 years from now.

This "Win Now!" philosophy just isn't working. They keep trying to put band aids on huge problems for short-term success. Its time to blow it up and build from scratch. And if that starts with moving Nash for some draft picks or prospects, then I (as a fan that actually goes to a lot of games) can get behind it.
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I don't agree with Nash just being a piece. I watch a shit ton of hockey and I still think he's a top 10 player. He's definitely someone to build around. A consistent 30-40 goal scorer who can create plays and play sound defense is rare. I do not think he should be the captain, however.

Trading him would be a disaster for the franchise. It would fragment the fanbase and probably the locker room. They wouldn't get what he's worth in return because not many teams can add that cap hit (even though I think he's worth it all - on and off the ice).

The Jackets have a good enough group of forwards to be a very good team. The defense and goaltending need to get better really fucking fast.
 
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What a trainwreck. Thank god I couldn't watch Saturday's newest fiery derailment.

I don't want to see Nash traded, but he's gotta to get it together and play with his linemates. He can score goals like the one he scored in Phoenix a couple years ago, but those aren't going to happen every night. He's a big, strong guy with a long reach, and he draws a ton of attention. He needs to trust his teammates and give up the puck when he's got two or three guys closing in on him rather than trying to stick handle through it and turning the puck over.

When he has quality teammates in all star games and the Olympics and he isn't trying to carry the team, he is a much more effective player.

That being said, Nash is the least of the team's problems.

BTW, Russell leads the team at +2. :slappy:
 
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BuckeyeMike80;2019249; said:
Trading Nash is a fucking disaster waiting to happen. At that point you might as well fold the franchise so if that's what you really want, go for it, I guess... :lol:
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I agree, unfortunately to me Nash is a lot like Iginla, good-great player, nothing around him, and not quite good enough to instantly make the team exponentially better like Crosby or Ovie can. Hell both Nash and Iginla were on the same line at the Olympics and looked pretty damned good, and they are my 2 favorite players, but both of those franchises are going nowhere fast.
 
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