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Buckeye Offensive Coordinator Discussion (merged)

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The reverse to Ginn did not look much different than other times, however the blocks were executed, and the DE did not force Ginn inside (tho he was too slow to try :)), which gave Ginn room to run.

We saw Ginn line up under center a few times, but besides that it was a pretty typical 05 offensive attack.

grad is right, it is about execution. Smith took care of the football (other than the stiff arm), progressed thru WRs, had time to throw, and hit his targets. Those things didn't really happen against PSU (and to a lesser extent UT).
osugrad21 said:
We'll just have to agree to disagree...to me, the play call is almost insignificant when you execute. Something is always open.
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the pittman play was very predictable IMO, we just sealed off all of the blocks.
 
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osugrad21 said:
Did anyone ever mention it may be execution as opposed to playcalling?
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I'll agree with Grad about 98% here - the one offensive wrinkle which I saw develop throughout the year was the "option" look on some of the passing plays (Smith lines up in shotgun, runs right and toward the line, then backs up and sets to pass). That relatively minor adjustment worked to freeze the defenses and gave the receivers more opportunity to get open; the Buckeyes had several big plays from that "look". Of course, that "play action" worked because the offense was eventually able to execute on the option/QB draws, and Smith became a true running threat, which opened up that particular misdirection play. Other than that, the offense was pretty much the same throughout the year, just executed much better by everyone - Smith (all phases, especially patience and reads); Pittman (better timing and vision); the line (working as a unit, especially on pass blocking, and sustaining blocks better); Ginn (running much better routes, downfield blocking); Holmes (getting healthy :) ).

Also, I should mention one personnel change that really helped the running game - replacing Dionte Johnson with Stan White, Jr. at fullback; especially in the last two games, Stan had some devastating lead blocks that sprung Pitt on some great runs. Also, props to Alex Boone, who showed very well in part-time duty this season, and who should be a true anchor on the line next year.

As I mentioned in another thread, the Buckeye offense in 2006 (barring injuries, suspensions, etc.) will be national championship caliber. Get used to 40 points and 500 yards per game. :biggrin: If the defense and special teams are at least above average (and they should be), another ring is certainly attainable.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
the one offensive wrinkle which I saw develop throughout the year was the "option" look on some of the passing plays (Smith lines up in shotgun, runs right and toward the line, then backs up and sets to pass). That relatively minor adjustment worked to freeze the defenses and gave the receivers more opportunity to get open; the Buckeyes had several big plays from that "look".
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Troy has been executing that fake option beautifully these last few games: opposing DCs are going to have nightmares of that little hop-step back he does before throwing deep.
 
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strohs said:
The execution was much better, but you have to admit the play calling was also much improved.
We took shots at TD's instead of running up the gut to set up field goals.
We ran some trick plays.
We didn't always do what you expected us to do, which was a huge change from the beginning of the season...
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The coach is only going to call plays he thinks the team will execute, from the QB to the WR to the OL. I think that the team was not executing the long passes in practice so JT was reluctant to call plays that might not work. I think TS's preperation has improved as well as Pittman and the line working better together. You'd have to be nuts not to think that tOSU offense has matured through this year. The more reps TS got in practice with the No1 unit the better they got.
 
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osugrad21 said:
How?
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I haven't looked it up but I am sure there were more passes on 1st down (and 2nd down) than there has usually been under Tressel. This was my biggest gripe with the Tressel run offenses for 4 1/2 years. It is much easier to throw the ball on 1st down than it is on 3rd and 9. The game was called outstanding by the offensive staff. There were also some reverses mixed in, a screen to Pittman on 1st down, deep passes early in the game, no slow developing play action plays used with Krenzel, and that Ginn split screen that I hate was ran only once. Playcalling was a huge difference in why this offense racked up 617 yards and 34 points. There is no way this offense is that good last night with the 2002 through 2004 playcalling. The problem with Tressel before was when defenses would stop the run he would still run it up the gut no matter on 1st and 2nd down and have a 70%-30% or 65%-35% run pass ratio. Now if somebody can't stop the run like Iowa this season then yes you keeping pounding it but so many times under Tressel Ohio State would keep pounding out even if the run was getting stuffed. Last night he mixed it up early, kept the defense off balance, and you see the results. Ohio State had just as much talent in 2002 (8 starters in NFL) and 2003 (possibly 9 starters in NFL - Mangold and Sims) as they did in 2005 and struggled against average defenses. You see what happens when the playcalling and execution are great, the offense is unstoppable against average defenses.
 
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