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Bitching about the 2004 Season

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When Davis blew threw our line for the first TD. When it became obvious we weren't going to give him the Larry Johnson treatment, I knew we were in big trouble.

As for the officiating, we got our asses kicked all over the field for most of the game...and the refs didn't so that.
 
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Ok well since I believe this to be the cream of the crop for message board posters...let's break this down.

What difference...outside of execution...are we not seeing that we did see in the heyday of Coop's offenses?

I honestly beleieve it is the domino effect...if you cannot control the line (on either side) the coach's options are severely limited.
 
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ww.....go back through your great history of buckeye football....probably a decade longer than mine....

was there ever a squad who once....not to mention twice....struggled to run the football like the buckeyes have done the past two years...

i mean its an utter joke....

this is three consecutive years of offense that makes indiana look like a juggernaut....

no defense, no special teams can keep it up that long....
 
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osugrad21 said:
Ok well since I believe this to be the cream of the crop for message board posters...let's break this down.

What difference...outside of execution...are we not seeing that we did see in the heyday of Coop's offenses?

I honestly beleieve it is the domino effect...if you cannot control the line (on either side) the coach's options are severely limited.
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21, I have to warn you to stop right there. The nail called to inform me that his head is killing him.
 
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Three words Marines love to toss around;

Improvise, adapt and overcome.

We don't need to radically change anything, we just need to show we can accomplish the above.

I find it tough to shit on individual players, even after days like today. Providing it's not clear that they're out there giving like 50% or something. Ditto coaches. We still don't know enough about a guy like Snyder (for example), in my opinion, to call for his job with a straight face. But we should be adapting, and in the process overcoming, and from one game to another it's difficult to see. Translated -> I'm not seeing any of it, but like a child's belief of Santa and the tooth fairy, I want to believe it's there. I can only hope that when we look back over ranges of games this season, we can (in hindsight) see corrections as they worked their way into the system over the course. In the here and now, even if invisible to us, hopefully they get back to our winning ways. I guess what I'm saying (poorly) there is; "One ugly win against Iowa for me please, thank you."

You lose games in college football. Everyone does. I'm just glad we have a head coach in place who knows how to win. He may not be exciting, he may not be flashy, but the one thing I never worry about is his ability to keep a team going in the right direction.

Like another post I just made, I'm more thinking out loud than responding to any one poster, or any single post. Bucklion's post got me thinking about "radical change", because you do hear people suggesting that from time to time, and my fingers started moving. I need to close the laptop.
 
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You're there grad21.

This team hasn't had a good OL in how long? The NC team of "02 had a suspect OL. We started two true freshman in the NC game, Mangold has stayed real steady but Robbie Sims seems to be regressing. Doug Datish is going the route of Bishop, big hype, little production. Maurice Clarett MADE that offensive line look good. I'm for getting the true froshs on the field ( Mitchum, Person, Rehring). It's like that movie that Matthew Broderick was in about 25 years ago called 'War Games" when the Military guy said "Hell, I'd Piss On A Sparkplug If I Thought It'd Do Any Good." Well, maybe we need to find some sparkplugs.
 
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Quality Wins?

Cincinnati lost to Army, possibly the worst team in the Division.
NCSt lost to North Carlonia, possibly the second worst team in the Division.
Marshall - they're horrible too.

OSU has 3 wins against bottom feeders, and two losses against #25 and #50. We could be in for a long, long year.
 
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ww...the piss poor offensive line play has to fall into someone's lap....


i think it is a combo of bollman not being able to bring along linemen in an offense that is more rigid than tibor looking at a belly dancer....

they dont mix...clearly...
 
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WoodyWorshiper said:
Hey Duh?-Bucks,

Okay smart guy, name the 39 teams that are better than TOSU.
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What's your problem man. I'm just stating my opinion as to where we are right now.

Yea, it is pretty simple to name 39 teams that would have a good shot at beating us right now. It isn't that hard. Maybe you weren't watching last week, but Northwestern beat us up and down the field. We had a chance to win, but we were very lucky to have the game even that close. Guess where NU was ranked when we played them...

It's not like I'm calling for anyone's head, but I think my argument is sound and accurate.

Woodyworshiper, it takes a big man to think of such a clever play on a person's moniker. :roll2:
 
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Exactly Dubs...

That was the main difference when I watched the 95 PSU game on Classic the other night. SURGE and GAPING HOLES.

If you do not have even an adequate running game(Lydell isn't great but he really has zero chance most of the time), a defense can pin their ears back and rush like hell. That is why we aren't seeing the multiple combination routes that are zone killers like we did with Coop. Hell, Zwick would have been running for his life on the same play Hoying completed to Dudley to set up the gamewinner.

We all want the explosive offense and fuck I would bet my left nut that JT does too...but without a line that can execute, it is impossible. Zwick is in there to take his lumps and get used to the speed. Hopefully, the line's woes will be solved and this kid will get to show what he can do.
 
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Chill out a little, dude...besides, the year is already half over, and we didn't LOSE to any of those three teams, anyway.

I realize our offense looked like crapola today, but I'm not convinced I need to eat my hamburgers with bottom-feeder sauce yet. We can still win 4 or 5 Big Ten games with some timely coaching adjustments.
 
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