2023 tCun Shenanigans, Arguments, Cobras, Feckless Marmots, Fake Pandas, Dirty Cheaters

[heisman]

 

[AuTX Buckeye]

Yeah, this. Anybody hoping for the nuclear option post haste is going to be disappointed. Now, the real question becomes whether of not scUM, if confronted with smoking gun evidence, decides to be proactive and self impose suspensions and other penalties (postseason ban), that's another discussion. If they are told that they are looking at serious, far-reaching penalties, Their AD has already shown he is not opposed to acting. Does that include suspending their coaching staff, etc? Time will tell, but they aren't receiving any kind of "death penalty" without due process.

I think long-term, they're fucked. But the most I see happening this ongoing season is maybe some suspensions. I do think there will be something, just unsure of what.

if they aren't going to nuke it from orbit.... then they at least gotta drop a MOAB on it ... send a message

 

[AKAK]

Here's my educated guess: The sign stealing scheme was clearly designed to win games, but someone affiliated with the program (coach, staffer, player) had to have noticed that Michigan was not only winning nearly every game but also covering the spread at an unprecedented rate (at least with respect to Big Ten games, i.e. games that were "scouted"). Said person(s) saw a money making opportunity and started betting on Michigan to cover – essentially reverse point shaving. Cheating to win games is against the rules of the sport. Cheating to win money is against the rules of law. I'm guessing that someone in Ann Arbor is looking at some jail time.

Or, a growing number of people started betting inordinate sums for them to cover.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Any info on how--despite a legal five year commitment to serve on active duty after graduation--Sergeant Stallone was on tsun sideline after four (graduated 2017; showed up at tsun in 2021)? Was he such a fuck up that the marines didn't even make him serve out his commitment before dumping him?

 

[BigWoof31]

I think long-term, they're fucked. But the most I see happening this ongoing season is maybe some suspensions. I do think there will be something, just unsure of what.

My hope is that they become so incredibly distracted by the entire situation that they shit their pants in a couple of games and that's the end of that.

 

[buckeyemania11]

He also stole private data from the naval academy and bragged about it, but yea he's a real American hero!

 

[youra6]

He also stole private data from the naval academy and bragged about it, but yea he's a real American hero!

They are gonna fall guy this dude so hard...

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Here's my educated guess: The sign stealing scheme was clearly designed to win games, but someone affiliated with the program (coach, staffer, player) had to have noticed that Michigan was not only winning nearly every game but also covering the spread at an unprecedented rate (at least with respect to Big Ten games, i.e. games that were "scouted"). Said person(s) saw a money making opportunity and started betting on Michigan to cover – essentially reverse point shaving. Cheating to win games is against the rules of the sport. Cheating to win money is against the rules of law. I'm guessing that someone in Ann Arbor is looking at some jail time.

Depends on if they had inside info on why tsun was suddenly covering. If they were outsiders who just noticed a trend, assumed tsun had some kind of edge and bet on their hunch, it just makes them good gamblers but not criminals. Now if coaches or players (or anyone else with knowledge of the scouting operation) bet, that's jail time.

I could see professional gamblers noticing the trend and betting it big, which Vegas would catch onto eventually and start digging.

 

[Jake]

Desperation in the DFBIA is palpable.

 

[youra6]

Desperation in the DFBIA is palpable.

Wheres the Pr0oF?

 

[pnuts34]

I almost posted about this a few days ago, but wasn't sure of the validity(and if it'd been posted). So much info being thrown out there at an alarming rate

 

[buckeyemania11]

They are REALLY leaning all their hopes now on this clearly bogus "WE GOT ILLEGALLY HACKED THATS WORSE THAN OUR CHEATING!" theory

 

[pnuts34]

 

[cincibuck]

In the long run, a multi-year post season ban will be the most crippling to the program. Five would be great, but I'll settle for three. That will destroy recruiting when there will be about 20 teams every year that have a reasonable shot at the playoffs, and tsun has to sit home.

“Of course and for the pure personal satisfaction of it, I want Harbaugh to be shitcanned, show-caused and publicly humiliated.”

So Nuremberg Michigan? That would be a nice touch.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Desperation in the DFBIA is palpable.

If anyone did this it's almost certainly Vegas. If it was Day, good for him.

Vegas notices that professional gamblers are betting big on tsun, maybe even an abnormal amount on second half bets. They're going to look into it.