2022 College Football Polls

[shetuck]

I honestly believe the PAC-12 benefits from the absurd offense-bias of the committee. When I compare their rankings to DSA results, it’s clear that their eye test sees only offense

There's not much defense to see in the PAC-12. Is there?

 

[BigWoof31]

There's not much defense to see in the PAC-12. Is there?

Utah plays a little defense. Stanford used to.

 

[Bestbuck36]

Washington used to have great Defenses but got broken when they couldn't score in their playoff so they changed also

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

Here is how the Pac-12 looks comparing DSA to the CFP ranking:

Team	DSO ratio	DSO Rank	DSD ratio	DSD Rank	DSC power	DSC Rank	CFP Rank
Utah	1.313	17	0.709	18	1.851	10	10
Southern Cal	1.463	8	0.940	49	1.556	18	7
Wash. St.	0.998	65	0.688	15	1.449	25	NR
Oregon St.	1.022	61	0.705	17	1.449	26	23
Oregon	1.365	12	0.998	59	1.367	29	12
UCLA	1.287	19	1.022	67	1.259	39	16
Washington	1.260	23	1.077	80	1.170	51	17

The only teams in the table with Defense higher ranked than their Offense (differentially) are Washington State and Oregon State. Washington State is the only team that is ranked LOWER by the CFP than according to DSC, even though they have the best DSD in the conference. While there are plenty of other examples of the CFP Committee's offense-bias, there is no other conference that shows it as plainly.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Here is how the Pac-12 looks comparing DSA to the CFP ranking:

Team	DSO ratio	DSO Rank	DSD ratio	DSD Rank	DSC power	DSC Rank	CFP Rank
Utah	1.313	17	0.709	18	1.851	10	10
Southern Cal	1.463	8	0.940	49	1.556	18	7
Wash. St.	0.998	65	0.688	15	1.449	25	NR
Oregon St.	1.022	61	0.705	17	1.449	26	23
Oregon	1.365	12	0.998	59	1.367	29	12
UCLA	1.287	19	1.022	67	1.259	39	16
Washington	1.260	23	1.077	80	1.170	51	17

The only teams in the table with Defense higher ranked than their Offense (differentially) are Washington State and Oregon State. Washington State is the only team that is ranked LOWER by the CFP than according to DSC. While there are plenty of other examples of the CFP Committee's offense-bias, there is no other conference that shows it as plainly.

I think they flat out ignore bad defense for certain teams, mostly when it comes to the SEC, and Tennessee for this season.

Lots of talk about how bad TCUs defense is, but crickets for Tennessee, who statistically is worse than TCU in total D

 

[DaddyBigBucks]

I think they flat out ignore bad defense for certain teams, mostly when it comes to the SEC, and Tennessee for this season.

Lots of talk about how bad TCUs defense is, but crickets for Tennessee, who statistically is worse than TCU in total D

Completely agree about Tennessee

They are clearly also ignoring bad defense in the Pac-12

And as for TCU, perhaps you've been watching ESPN... I wouldn't know, but I hadn't heard how bad their defense is anywhere but in my spreadsheets.

But they have ONE good game and I heard a ton over the weekend about their GREAT performance against Texas.

Looked more like Texas wilted under the pressure to me. One performance does not mean a team has a great defense. But several media outlets do have to show how much they respect the scrappy little school that's trying to break into the CFP.

 

[Bestbuck36]

The CFP is going to be:
1 UGA
2 tOSU
3 Tennecheat
4 TCU

This gives them a chance to have another all SEC championship if they can get it. It also gives UGA the easiest match in the first round and the high scoring game between the Bucks and Vols, possibly.

There are games that can change all of that obviously but I see UGA and OSU on the ultimate collision course.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Completely agree about Tennessee

They are clearly also ignoring bad defense in the Pac-12

And as for TCU, perhaps you've been watching ESPN... I wouldn't know, but I hadn't heard how bad their defense is anywhere but in my spreadsheets.

But they have ONE good game and I heard a ton over the weekend about their GREAT performance against Texas.

Looked more like Texas wilted under the pressure to me. One performance does not mean a team has a great defense. But several media outlets do have to show how much they respect the scrappy little school that's trying to break into the CFP.

I guess they kind of have to ignore bad defense this season since a good amount of the contenders have them.

Georgia, Ohio State & Michigan are the only true CFP contenders in the top 25

LSU is 35th, Clemson is 37th, not terrible, but nothing great either.

The Pac 12 is beyond awful defensively. To the point where it makes you question how good the offenses really are. Guys like Bo Nix and Michael Penix who are historically mediocre-bad at other places come in and start putting up crazy numbers.

Not sure how anyone could watch that TCU/Texas game and say "yes TCUs defense really isnt that bad they are turning the corner" That was clearly much more bad offense by Texas than great defense by TCU.

 

[buckeyemania11]

Id rather see 3 SEC teams than give Michigan the satisfaction of losing to us but still making the playoff

Better would be USC making it. So scUM is stuck playing (and losing to) some 3 loss Pac 12 team in the Rose Bowl.

 

[buckeyemania11]

The CFP is going to be:
1 UGA
2 tOSU
3 Tennecheat
4 TCU

This gives them a chance to have another all SEC championship if they can get it. It also gives UGA the easiest match in the first round and the high scoring game between the Bucks and Vols, possibly.

There are games that can change all of that obviously but I see UGA and OSU on the ultimate collision course.

This pisses me off so much. The purposeful reseeding, even though that's not how it should be, to possibly set up a all SEC national title game. "wE cAnT hAvE a ReMaTcH iN tHe SeMiFiNaL"

You can bet your ass theyd make Ohio State and Michigan have a rematch in the semi final if thats what it came down to, there would be no BS seed shuffling in that situation. It would be "different" of course.

MAYBE If the UGA and Tennessee game was closer, like a 3 point game decided in the final minutes, you could argue for shifting away from a rematch in the Semi Final. But that's not the case.

 

[ScriptOhio]

The CFP is going to be:
1 UGA
2 tOSU
3 Tennecheat
4 TCU

This gives them a chance to have another all SEC championship if they can get it. It also gives UGA the easiest match in the first round and the high scoring game between the Bucks and Vols, possibly.

There are games that can change all of that obviously but I see UGA and OSU on the ultimate collision course.

Actually I'd rather see ↓ just so we could "sock it to Dabo":

1 UGA
2 tOSU
3 CLEMSON
4 TCU

Hey. Clemson could be 12-1 and a Power 5 Conference Champion vs Tennessee at 11-1 and not even making it to the SEC CCG.

 

[zbuck]

Actually I'd rather see ↓ just so we could "sock it to Dabo":

1 UGA
2 tOSU
3 CLEMSON
4 TCU

Hey. Clemson could be 12-1 and a Power 5 Conference Champion vs Tennessee at 11-1 and not even making it to the SEC CCG.

Clemson certainly has the easiest schedule ahead …. the U, USCe, and UNC. I’m sure they will be favored in all.

 

[Bestbuck36]

Clemson is done. Getting stomped by ND took them out of it and they had another awful out of conference schedule. All that and the ACC is garbage.

 

[cincibuck]

Clemson is done. Getting stomped by ND took them out of it and they had another awful out of conference schedule. All that and the ACC is garbage.

It's hard to tell what is actually an OOC game in the ACC.

 

[BigWoof31]

Actually I'd rather see ↓ just so we could "sock it to Dabo":

1 UGA
2 tOSU
3 CLEMSON
4 TCU

Hey. Clemson could be 12-1 and a Power 5 Conference Champion vs Tennessee at 11-1 and not even making it to the SEC CCG.

Meet you in LA