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2015-16 Ohio State Quarterback Discussion

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OSUK said:
Did you really read that? Lol. Seriously?

If I did say that, you should be able to quote it and put it in bold. Clearly, that's what you interpreted, but not what I meant. I won't defend what your mind creates, particularly when you credit it to me. Reading comprehension fails us all at times.
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OSUK said:
It's been a bur in my butt all season when people would cite underwhelming performance as a justification for not starting the most efficient and productive QB in B1G and OSU history for a season. Absurd. As if a whole record setting season must be validated by being inserted cold into a game after being prepared with second team reps, and knowing your snaps are limited.
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TL;DR, but QFT anyway.
 
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Context, my friends. Wasn't saying that underwhelming performance wasn't a legit reason to keep JT over there on the sideline. Only that the opportunities to perform were not the same between the two candidates - and those who totally ignored that fact were very irritating to me. If Cardale led that offense to impressive wins, then I would have been the #1 guy on the Cardale bandwagon.

TLDRQFTWXYZ anyway. :biggrin:
 
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OSUK said:
Did you really read that? Lol. Seriously?

If I did say that, you should be able to quote it and put it in bold. Clearly, that's what you interpreted, but not what I meant. I won't defend what your mind creates, particularly when you credit it to me. Reading comprehension fails us all at times.
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Your post is there for all to see.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
It was Thomas that he ran into on the fumble play. But running into Thomas didn't cause the fumble. If you look at the replay, JT runs into Thomas, which stops his forward momentum, but he still has the ball secure. He then gets hit by a Rutgers defender and still has the ball secure. Only when he gets hit by a second Rutgers defender does he fumble.
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Yea, I worded that wrong. I didn't mean Thomas caused it, but that it happened on that play.
 
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Hetuck said:
Your post is there for all to see.
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And Clay Travis wrote an article that claims that Urban Meyer criticized FSU's handling of Winston. Urban's entire answer in response to a question about what he would have done in terms of discipline was: "It would be hard to let that go." Travis also alleges that Urban knowingly allowed a murderer to remain on his team at Florida. Hmm....

There appears to be some putting of words in others' mouths and torture of context afoot - and those bad habits do not seem the exclusive problems of Clay Travis. :)

But here's something we can come together on: this QB thing is a "first world" CFB problem. Some programs have fired their coaches already. Some have the wrong coach, but have to hang on to him. Some don't have enough talent. Others will never be able to recruit with the elite.

Ohio State? We obsess over which great QB to play during an unbeaten season.

It's a great time to be a Buckeye.
 
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OSUK said:
And Clay Travis wrote an article that claims that Urban Meyer criticized FSU's handling of Winston. Urban's entire answer in response to a question about what he would have done in terms of discipline was: "It would be hard to let that go." Travis also alleges that Urban knowingly allowed a murderer to remain on his team at Florida. Hmm....

There appears to be some putting of words in others' mouths and torture of context afoot - and those bad habits do not seem the exclusive problems of Clay Travis. :)

But here's something we can come together on: this QB thing is a "first world" CFB problem. Some programs have fired their coaches already. Some have the wrong coach, but have to hang on to him. Some don't have enough talent. Others will never be able to recruit with the elite.

Ohio State? We obsess over which great QB to play during an unbeaten season.

It's a great time to be a Buckeye.
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Actually, your post reads exactly as he suggested it sounds like. I read it the same way, so you can accuse others of putting words in your mouth, but that is simply how your post reads. Rather than accusing others of having poor reading comprehension or putting things in in proper context, perhaps you could just slightly amend your original statement. I understand that you have clarified your original position now, and it sounds much like the opinion of most others, but that's not how the original post read.
 
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MaxBuck said:
This "2015-16 Ohio State QB Discussion" has morphed into something completely different, yet peculiarly entertaining.
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Well, I tried to bring it back. I should have separated the attempt from the other nonsense. So let's do this:

This QB thing is a "first world" CFB problem. Some programs have fired their coaches already. Some have the wrong coach, but have to hang on to him. Some don't have enough talent. Others will never be able to recruit with the elite.

Ohio State? We obsess over which great QB to play during an unbeaten season.

It's a great time to be a Buckeye.
 
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How do people think the starting QB position should be treated after the Minnesota game? If cardale struggles, I think you straight up go with JT. But if Cardale has a great game, I wouldn't be shocked to see Cardale start vs Illinois and JT go back to the redzone QB. Then either stay there if Cardale performs well against Illinois or go to JT full time starting with MSU if Cardale struggles vs Illinois and JT looks good.
 
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UpNorth_Buckeye said:
How do people think the starting QB position should be treated after the Minnesota game? If cardale struggles, I think you straight up go with JT. But if Cardale has a great game, I wouldn't be shocked to see Cardale start vs Illinois and JT go back to the redzone QB. Then either stay there if Cardale performs well against Illinois or go to JT full time starting with MSU if Cardale struggles vs Illinois and JT looks good.
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Just go back to JT. He should've been starting all season anyway, IMO. No more of the dual QB system. Let JT play against Illinois, Idk how this is a discussion with the way JT had the offense humming against Rutgers. Why would there be a question? The offense against was literally what almost all fans envisioned in the off season, using a multitude of weapons in the open field to make plays
 
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It'll all depend on how Jones plays IMO. if we struggle again to find the end zone in the red zone, have issues with turnovers, and have an inordinate amount of short offensive series due to failures on 3rd down then JT has to resume as the starter.

However, if CJ crushes it then as many have said I think you'd have to go back to the platoon system with JT working the red zone.

Either way JT still stays involved so I would think not horsing around and just naming JT the starter is the right move. However I imagine it won't be so swiftly handed back to JT which I would understand why given his let down
 
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