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2015-16 Ohio State Quarterback Discussion

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bukIpower said:
It'll all depend on how Jones plays IMO. if we struggle again to find the end zone in the red zone, have issues with turnovers, and have an inordinate amount of short offensive series due to failures on 3rd down then JT has to resume as the starter.

However, if CJ crushes it then as many have said I think you'd have to go back to the platoon system with JT working the red zone.

Either way JT still stays involved so I would think not horsing around and just naming JT the starter is the right move. However I imagine it won't be so swiftly handed back to JT which I would understand why given his let down
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I really do expect Miller to be the Red Zone QB. If he will hand the ball off and he is given the freedom to throw the ball (his arm should be fine) he can be every bit as effective as JT. Just don't be selfish and take what the D gives and we should be fine.
 
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Excited but nervous to hear that Braxton is now the back up QB with the intentions to see if he can throw. Talk about going from being in a fire then into a frying pan. It just went from having a QB who is a effective runner to a QB who can go 80 on you if things aren't sound defensively
 
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Regardless of whether it's Braxton, Cardale, Jalin, or whoever, the effectiveness of the zone read depends on the QB's ability to READ. If you make the wrong read, it doesn't work as well - unless you are Braxton who can often escape after a bad read and being surrounded. One of the things that sets apart JT as a QB is his ability to read this play accurately a high pct of the time. I'm not sure Braxton ever made the right read 50% of the time on that play over a 3 year period.

Regardless, if in doubt, give it to 15.
 
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OSUK said:
Regardless of whether it's Braxton, Cardale, Jalin, or whoever, the effectiveness of the zone read depends on the QB's ability to READ. If you make the wrong read, it doesn't work as well - unless you are Braxton who can often escape after a bad read and being surrounded. One of the things that sets apart JT as a QB is his ability to read this play accurately a high pct of the time. I'm not sure Braxton ever made the right read 50% of the time on that play over a 3 year period. Regardless, if in doubt, give it to 15.
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This.
 
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OSUK said:
Regardless of whether it's Braxton, Cardale, Jalin, or whoever, the effectiveness of the zone read depends on the QB's ability to READ. If you make the wrong read, it doesn't work as well - unless you are Braxton who can often escape after a bad read and being surrounded. One of the things that sets apart JT as a QB is his ability to read this play accurately a high pct of the time. I'm not sure Braxton ever made the right read 50% of the time on that play over a 3 year period.

Regardless, if in doubt, give it to 15.
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It's not only ability to read the D, it's also ability for the QB to get to the edge. Cardale, unlike Braxton and JT, doesn't have that lateral quickness, which is why opposing defenses were keying on Elliott on the zone read and blowing up the play when Cardale (correctly) kept the ball. The whole zone read play should be shelved while Cardale is in there. There are other ways to take advantage of what he brings to the table.
 
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buckeyesin07 said:
It's not only ability to read the D, it's also ability for the QB to get to the edge. Cardale, unlike Braxton and JT, doesn't have that lateral quickness, which is why opposing defenses were keying on Elliott on the zone read and blowing up the play when Cardale (correctly) kept the ball. The whole zone read play should be shelved while Cardale is in there. There are other ways to take advantage of what he brings to the table.
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I agree that when CJ is in the option needs shelved. In the red zone though I'm just not sure what CJ'S strength is? His arm strength at that point is moot because of the condensed field and his mobility is just OK (which normally leads him to throw balls away instead of making plays with his feet and thus putting us behind the chains).

I hate having situational QBS as well but in this case it's what must be done IMO. I bet we don't see a ton of zone read with Braxton this saturday. It'll probably be IMO a lot of QB sweeps and counters with the occasional zone read
 
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Last we saw Cardale he had regressed from last years playoff brilliance and was missing wide open receivers when teams were caught cheating to stop Zeke (and struggling to properly identify when teams were doing that more often than not).

Unless he has really gotten it back together in practice the past few weeks Minny can cover better than anyone Cardale has started against this year. There will not be many wide open receivers and the run will get taken away. I am legitimately concerned about how the offense will perform unless Braxton is getting the snaps.

This is a bad match up for CJ.
 
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