Gizmo said:

thought he just needed a few years to get his recruits, then they'd be chasing championships? Turns out their best shot was the year he brought everyone over with him.

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buckeyemania11 said:

"His recruits" this year was a 14 player class with not a single player in the top 200 and only 1 in the top 300. Predictably the fake shine wore off very quickly there.

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ScriptOhio said:

Yeah, he seemed to hit a real bump in his coaching road this season, i.e going 3-9, 1-8. I wonder if his medical issues contributed. Anyway a famous coach once said; "you are what your record says you are"; he is a 3-9 coach.

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Yeah his golden geese flew the coup(Shedeur and Travis). This was to be expected by people who actually followed CFB. I think the big problem he had was that his biggest cheerleaders IRL didn’t have a clue about CFB, let alone sports. Deion thought that every year he could just hit the Portal and flip his entire team. That will never ever work. You don’t even get to know how a kid fits in your system, will he go to class, will he be a cancer to the locker room, etc

buckeyemania11 said:

Nobody of substance wants to play for Deion any more. He's assembling a low level CUSA team through the portal this time around

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Gizmo said:

thought he just needed a few years to get his recruits, then they'd be chasing championships? Turns out their best shot was the year he brought everyone over with him.

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Yeah, he seemed to hit a real bump in his coaching road this season, i.e going 3-9, 1-8. I wonder if his medical issues contributed. Anyway a famous coach once said; "you are what your record says you are"; he is a 3-9 coach.

Would it, though? In 2025, he was:

6-7 from 20-29 (Fielding was 6-7, too)
7-8 from 30-39 (Fielding was 7-8, too)
7-8 from 40-49 (Fielding was 3-4 in 2025, but was 7-8 in 2024)
0-0 from 50+ (Fielding was 0-1)

He has a career-long of 50 made in 2024. Fielding has a career-long of 49 made in 2025z

He’s never missed a “very important kick” like Fielding has, but he’s also never had the opportunity to choke in a huge situation.

On paper, he’s basically the exact same player.

Captain Buckeye said:

I don’t think I realized he only had 1 sack and 8 tackles. Raw indeed.

Maybe he’s worth the money but maybe he’s not? You can’t pay out for a kid who’s a question mark.

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If you are gonna swing big bags in the portal that should be saved for mostly proven experienced players. Of course all portal pickups carry their risks of not panning out at their new school but this is going to be one expensive flop if he never really develops into that potential you are hoping for here.

Gizmo said:

thought he just needed a few years to get his recruits, then they'd be chasing championships? Turns out their best shot was the year he brought everyone over with him.

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"His recruits" this year was a 14 player class with not a single player in the top 200 and only 1 in the top 300. Predictably the fake shine wore off very quickly there.

NWBuck32 said:

Morning, is there a link for the rumor mill? I can’t seem to find but I might just man vision lol

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I think it is this one:

buckeyemania11 said:

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thought he just needed a few years to get his recruits, then they'd be chasing championships? Turns out their best shot was the year he brought everyone over with him.

I'm not going to say don't pursue him. But don't throw bags at him. If he wants to come here and grow and prove himself, cool, we'll see if he pans out. If he wants to chase bags, then let him walk.

Jaxbuck said:

ok

I said it way back but it matters on a human level....please don't ever gamble if you aren't playing just for fun with a completely discretionary pile of money.

Your level of understanding game theory, strategy, odds and risk is what Vegas was built on.

As far as this topic goes, I've shown everything I can show and explained everything I can explain. Day has clearly changed his strategy over the past 4 years and I'm telling you why.

Do with it what you will. I know who I find to be more credible.

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The thing you aren’t accounting for is we are Vegas. We are the ones with the better odds.

If we were the ones gambling (the lessor talented team) then I agree. But if you’re the one with the better odds then force a team with less talent to do it again and again.

I understand the approach and it’s worked out pretty well overall. But I think we could all agree is sure would’ve been nice to have an extra 3 possessions vs Miami and IU.

Edit- anyway I think I’ve made my point lol no need to keep carrying on. This offense regardless should be something but will be good to see them tested more frequently next year.

Captain Buckeye said:

Who cares about efficiency if you’re scoring 12 more points a game. More opportunities = more points.

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ok

I said it way back but it matters on a human level....please don't ever gamble if you aren't playing just for fun with a completely discretionary pile of money.

Your level of understanding game theory, strategy, odds and risk is what Vegas was built on.

As far as this topic goes, I've shown everything I can show and explained everything I can explain. Day has clearly changed his strategy over the past 4 years and I'm telling you why.

Do with it what you will. I know who I find to be more credible.

pnuts34 said:

Yes,it’s in the OSU transfer portal thread in the Rumors section

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Morning, is there a link for the rumor mill? I can’t seem to find but I might just man vision lol