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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34
Onebuckfan said:
What about Beckman plated in a NC game lol
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I'm going by their stats. Come on now, I didn't think I needed to go into that much detail when it seemed obvious that an NC wasn't the only reason for McCarthy. Boeckman also didn't win an NC, and his career stats were again pedestrian like Krenzel
BuckeyeNation27 said:
Krenzel didn't have the defense given to him before each play.

I also doubt he ever played a game where he was only allowed to throw 3 times........let alone that game being a top 2 most important game of the season.
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Stats are stats when compiling lists. If you want to throw in personal caveats based on rivals, and what is deemed as cheating or not. Than Tom Brady should never be on anyone's lists of top NFL QBs...
It makes me want to throw up in my mouth to defend a scUM QB, but I was trying to take my Buckeye bias out when compiling the list. And Krenzel and Boeckman were 2 of the worst OSU QBs stat wise, and the only 2 I wouldn't consider on this list, or even any list stat wise.
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B1G (Official Thread)

BuckeyeNation27
pnuts34 said:
I understand the sarcasm. But you don't want to compare the 2, Krenzels stats are laughable. McCarthy doesn't allow Krenzel anywhere near the chat. And his numbers weren't even that good
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Krenzel didn't have the defense given to him before each play.

I also doubt he ever played a game where he was only allowed to throw 3 times........let alone that game being a top 2 most important game of the season.
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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34 said:
I couldn't bring myself to putting Pryor on the list because without his last year, his numbers are quite pedestrian. He's not even top 50 in career passing yards in the conference, and he'd be the lowest on this list for TDs scored. Now if TP had his senior year, I'd predict he'd be in the top 2. But he didn't, so I can only go by what he did.
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What about Beckman plated in a NC game lol
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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34
Zurp said:
Agreed.



What???

My thoughts on a list like this.
1. It's just clickbait during offseason.
2. CJ Stroud should be #1, in my IMO, and Fields #2. #3 isn't close. If you want to switch my #1 and #2, that's fine.
3. I am shocked that someone is giving some respect to Barrett. As a passer, I'd say he was a C+ to B- passer. But as a quarterback in college, he was an A+. He knew how to make that read on the hand-off. He made that first guy miss. He had speed. Most non-Buckeye fans don't give him the credit he deserves.
4. I couldn't tell you anything about Curtis Rourke. The name is only vaguely familiar.
5. Brad Banks? The name is slightly more familiar to me, but I don't know what year(s) he played.
6. Denard Robinson did well in 2011, from what I remember. But I would have thought that his 2009 and 2010 seasons would cancel that out. You can't just look at the best couple of plays a player had and judge his entire career on it.
7. I agree that Haskins should be on the list. Maybe put him there at #3. Hell, if you want to put him at #1 or #2, I won't complain. If you want to say Mendoza is better, I'll roll my eyes and silently disagree. There's certainly no one else I'd rather see on the list.
8. If you want to put McCarthy in there, I'll just disagree. I mean, according to the NCAA, he didn't do anything worth punishing. So... I guess he didn't do anything wrong.
9. I can't take a list seriously that doesn't have Haskins or Pryor. I already talked about Haskins, but put Haskins on the 2011 team and I'm convinced they lose 0 games before the post-season. Let's look at the losses in 2011: Miami (FL) - they lost 20-6. Tell me Pryor doesn't score 2 touchdowns. Michigan State - they lost 10-7. Pryor scores many times in that game. Cheaters - they lost 40-34. I gotta believe that Pryor can hold the ball longer, reducing the cheaters' chances to score, and Ohio State wins that. Nebraska - Pryor absolutely can hold onto a 21-pt lead. Penn State only won by 6. Or 7? Either way, close enough that Pryor wins it. Purdue? That doesn't even go to overtime.
10. Yeah - I'm putting at least 7 Buckeye quarterbacks on a list of Top 12 Big Ten quarterbacks of the millennium. And I'm not opposed to putting Will Howard on there, either.
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I couldn't bring myself to putting Pryor on the list because without his last year, his numbers are quite pedestrian. He's not even top 50 in career passing yards in the conference, and he'd be the lowest on this list for TDs scored. Now if TP had his senior year, I'd predict he'd be in the top 2. But he didn't, so I can only go by what he did.
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QB1 Julian Sayin (All B1G, B1G Frosh of Year, All American, National Frosh of Year, National Champion)

BuckeyeNation27
Jaxbuck said:
Oh how I missed the “he doesn’t run enough” arguments.

This should be fun.
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Fast forward to him getting injured and we get to hear the battle between blaming the turf and blaming Marotti
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

Jaxbuck
ScriptOhio said:
www.cbssports.com

NCAA tampering memo promises penalties for rule-breakers: How Dabo Swinney may have invoked change

Dabo Swinney's recent fiery comments seemingly lit a fire under the NCAA's enforcement branch
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NCAA tampering memo promises penalties for rule-breakers: How Dabo Swinney may have invoked change​

Dabo Swinney's recent fiery comments seemingly lit a fire under the NCAA's enforcement branch​

Jon Duncan, the NCAA's vice president of enforcement, announced in a memo sent to NCAA schools that the Division I Board of Directors has informed its staff to "pursue significant penalties" against tampering offenders along with publicly identifying those found guilty of wrongdoing, according to Yahoo Sports.

Duncan wrote in the memo that the NCAA is working closely with Geoff Means, the chair of the Division I Board of Directors Infractions Process Committee, to quickly address violations.

"It is our sincerest hope that these potential policy and rules changes will better serve the new era of Division I while balancing fairness and efficiency to meet membership expectations," the memo said, according to the report.

Within the memo, the process includes "streamlining various stages of an investigation, collecting information from schools or student-athletes more quickly, conducting interviews on a shorter schedule and/or limiting extension requests often made by parties in infractions cases."

This heavy-handed announcement from the NCAA comes after Clemson coach Dabo Swinney accused Ole Miss and Pete Golding of tampering transfer portal signee Luke Ferrelli. Ferrelli re-entered the transfer portal and committed to Ole Miss after initially landing at Clemson.

"We have a broken system, and if there are no consequences for tampering, then we have no rules and we have no governance," Swinney said last month.

Within a screenshot of the memo posted on social media, Duncan identified tampering as falling under the label of "communications of any kind are not permitted with a student-athlete at another school -- or any other representatives of their interests, including agents -- before that student-athlete entered the NCAA transfer portal."
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Just sayin': This will go nowhere. No guilty party (i.e. the school, the coach, the player, not the player's agent, etc.) will ever cooperate with the NCAA's investigation. The NCAA won't be able to prove anything.
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They will strongly object to tampering now.

They are done just simply objecting to tampering.

Northeast by Southwest directional schools better watch their asses. The NCAA is coming in hot.
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B1G (Official Thread)

Zurp
pnuts34 said:
This list is idiotic imo.
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Agreed.

pnuts34 said:
McCarthy shouldn't even be on this list
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pnuts34 said:
If I could redo the list:
9) JJ McCarthy
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What???

My thoughts on a list like this.
1. It's just clickbait during offseason.
2. CJ Stroud should be #1, in my IMO, and Fields #2. #3 isn't close. If you want to switch my #1 and #2, that's fine.
3. I am shocked that someone is giving some respect to Barrett. As a passer, I'd say he was a C+ to B- passer. But as a quarterback in college, he was an A+. He knew how to make that read on the hand-off. He made that first guy miss. He had speed. Most non-Buckeye fans don't give him the credit he deserves.
4. I couldn't tell you anything about Curtis Rourke. The name is only vaguely familiar.
5. Brad Banks? The name is slightly more familiar to me, but I don't know what year(s) he played.
6. Denard Robinson did well in 2011, from what I remember. But I would have thought that his 2009 and 2010 seasons would cancel that out. You can't just look at the best couple of plays a player had and judge his entire career on it.
7. I agree that Haskins should be on the list. Maybe put him there at #3. Hell, if you want to put him at #1 or #2, I won't complain. If you want to say Mendoza is better, I'll roll my eyes and silently disagree. There's certainly no one else I'd rather see on the list.
8. If you want to put McCarthy in there, I'll just disagree. I mean, according to the NCAA, he didn't do anything worth punishing. So... I guess he didn't do anything wrong.
9. I can't take a list seriously that doesn't have Haskins or Pryor. I already talked about Haskins, but put Haskins on the 2011 team and I'm convinced they lose 0 games before the post-season. Let's look at the losses in 2011: Miami (FL) - they lost 20-6. Tell me Pryor doesn't score 2 touchdowns. Michigan State - they lost 10-7. Pryor scores many times in that game. Cheaters - they lost 40-34. I gotta believe that Pryor can hold the ball longer, reducing the cheaters' chances to score, and Ohio State wins that. Nebraska - Pryor absolutely can hold onto a 21-pt lead. Penn State only won by 6. Or 7? Either way, close enough that Pryor wins it. Purdue? That doesn't even go to overtime.
10. Yeah - I'm putting at least 7 Buckeye quarterbacks on a list of Top 12 Big Ten quarterbacks of the millennium. And I'm not opposed to putting Will Howard on there, either.
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B1G (Official Thread)

RhodeIslandBuck
pnuts34 said:
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This list is idiotic imo. McCarthy shouldn't even be on this list, and the fact that the B1G single season passing yards and passing TDs record holder doesn't even make the list(Dwayne Haskins) shows how much of a joke it is. I feel like whomever made the list just wanted to throw players in there and not just populate the list with OSU QBs. Because tbh, every starting QB in the 2000s should be on this list. And honestly 4 of the top 5 QBs should be OSU QBs if we're being completely honest(Stroud, Fields, Smith and Miller).
If I could redo the list:
1) Justin Fields 2) Troy Smith 3) CJ Stroud 4) Fernando Mendoza 5) JT Barrett 6) Will Howard 7) Braxton Miller 8) Russell Wilson 9) JJ McCarthy 10) Taulia Tagovailoa 11) Chad Henne 12) Trace McSorley
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Brad Banks needs to be on the list, as a college QB I'd have him slightly behind RW but absolutely in front of JJ, Taulia, and Mcsorley
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BP Fantasy Baseball est. 2008 (Current Champion = Ahiacitian)

brodybuck21
heisman said:
I am definitely no to both. There needs to be some reward to finishing top 2 in the regular season. If you want to value SP more, minimum IP isn't it. Changing from K/9 to K's would do that in a heartbeat. I went through last year week by week. Not a single team had less than 27 IP in any week. So, it changes nothing. Changing the K/9 to K's would absolutely create the change you want.
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great points and makes perfect sense
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B1G (Official Thread)

pnuts34
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This list is idiotic imo. McCarthy shouldn't even be on this list, and the fact that the B1G single season passing yards and passing TDs record holder doesn't even make the list(Dwayne Haskins) shows how much of a joke it is. I feel like whomever made the list just wanted to throw players in there and not just populate the list with OSU QBs. Because tbh, every starting QB in the 2000s should be on this list. And honestly 4 of the top 5 QBs should be OSU QBs if we're being completely honest(Stroud, Fields, Smith and Miller).
If I could redo the list:
1) Justin Fields 2) Troy Smith 3) CJ Stroud 4) Fernando Mendoza 5) JT Barrett 6) Will Howard 7) Braxton Miller 8) Russell Wilson 9) JJ McCarthy 10) Taulia Tagovailoa 11) Chad Henne 12) Trace McSorley
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

ScriptOhio
Thump said:
awfulannouncing.com

Dabo Swinney goes scorched earth on Pete Golding, Ole Miss over tampering claims

Clemson's Dabo Swinney pubically called out Ole Miss and Pete Golding over tampering with a recruit, and said he's spoken with the NCAA.
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www.cbssports.com

NCAA tampering memo promises penalties for rule-breakers: How Dabo Swinney may have invoked change

Dabo Swinney's recent fiery comments seemingly lit a fire under the NCAA's enforcement branch
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

NCAA tampering memo promises penalties for rule-breakers: How Dabo Swinney may have invoked change​

Dabo Swinney's recent fiery comments seemingly lit a fire under the NCAA's enforcement branch​

Jon Duncan, the NCAA's vice president of enforcement, announced in a memo sent to NCAA schools that the Division I Board of Directors has informed its staff to "pursue significant penalties" against tampering offenders along with publicly identifying those found guilty of wrongdoing, according to Yahoo Sports.

Duncan wrote in the memo that the NCAA is working closely with Geoff Means, the chair of the Division I Board of Directors Infractions Process Committee, to quickly address violations.

"It is our sincerest hope that these potential policy and rules changes will better serve the new era of Division I while balancing fairness and efficiency to meet membership expectations," the memo said, according to the report.

Within the memo, the process includes "streamlining various stages of an investigation, collecting information from schools or student-athletes more quickly, conducting interviews on a shorter schedule and/or limiting extension requests often made by parties in infractions cases."

This heavy-handed announcement from the NCAA comes after Clemson coach Dabo Swinney accused Ole Miss and Pete Golding of tampering transfer portal signee Luke Ferrelli. Ferrelli re-entered the transfer portal and committed to Ole Miss after initially landing at Clemson.

"We have a broken system, and if there are no consequences for tampering, then we have no rules and we have no governance," Swinney said last month.

Within a screenshot of the memo posted on social media, Duncan identified tampering as falling under the label of "communications of any kind are not permitted with a student-athlete at another school -- or any other representatives of their interests, including agents -- before that student-athlete entered the NCAA transfer portal."
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Just sayin': This will go nowhere. No guilty party (i.e. the school, the coach, the player, not the player's agent, etc.) will ever cooperate with the NCAA's investigation. The NCAA won't be able to prove anything.
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