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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

SEREbuckeye
osuvictory1 said:
Honestly, I think some of their hires seem fine. The big knock on them is not being acquainted for long periods of time with players east of the Mississippi.
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“Fine” is the perfect word. Not exciting, not optimistic, just… fine. And that’s what it will be for the next 3 years for them until Whittingham is gone. This is Rich Rod, Brady Hoke shit. A medium to get them through darkness without too many losses.
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

I dunno, I feel like the only disappointment on the offense was the OL. While I didn't think they'd neutralize Miami's DL at all, I thought it'd look more like the second half than the first. First half they may as well have not even been on the field during passing plays. They were getting absolutely destroyed. Second half it felt like they were winning more battles than they lost. Definitely should've went to Padilla earlier but I assume they were trying to give Van Sickle time to work out the rust given he'd played pretty well against Indiana.

All this talk about offensive philosophy needs to be put on hold until OSU gets an OL that can consistently block and I MIGHT be in the camp that thinks Bowen either needs to be replaced or moved to another position. Ain't no way the OL is supposed to look like that with all of that returning talent.
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

billmac91
Jaxbuck said:
Totally agree on how they did it but that's an execution thing.

I've watched other teams this bowl season adapt to a fierce pass rush through quick, short passes to the TE's, backs and WR's. They didn't go up tempo, they just stopped dropping their QB deep, rolled him out or whatever.

Listen, if you see a specific team is very vulnerable to tempo because you can run the DL ragged then by all means, but that's just a tactical application of tempo, it isn't an overall strategy. You still have to execute.

I think as the all 22 film starts to come out we will see that Saying had many chances to execute and win vs these teams and defenses. It's not like Day doesn't know how to draw up a quick passing game.
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Well, yeah….

He missed (2) TD throws. Max Klare over the middle after he underthrew Jeremiah Smith on the deep ball (that should’ve been a TD as well but I digress) and he missed Carnell Tate streaking down the middle bc he came off him to early and dumped it the RB instead.

And I’m not advocating going tempo every play…..im advocating for tempo periodically, bc yes, it absolutely gasses a defensive line when they don’t get substitution opportunities. We actually did go tempo in the 3rd quarter, and it worked well. As stated before, it could be argued Miami went soft playing with a lead….but we gained momentum in the 3rd Q while going tempo. And then in the 4th Quarter, we went back to what we’ve done all year, and it felt like we sucked all the energy out of the stadium.

Again, I get playing to the best odds, and how playing efficient makes sense. But all it takes is one game wrecker like Rueben Bain to destroy a gameplan. Or a roster of 5th and 6th year seniors employing an incredible stunt strategy that our guys struggle to pick up.

I feel Day got overly simplistic and missed a relatively easy opportunity to make life harder on Miami. And to be honest, the game plan was there….SMU and Louisville both beat Miami with similar plans. I guess that’s frustrating too….its not like Miami is “that good”….we let them exploit our biggest weakness with their biggest strength. It’s not apples to apples but it feels somewhat like our loss to Michigan last year. From an efficiency standpoint, it never made much sense to continually run it at (2) first RD DT’s. But that was the gameplan….bc efficiency??
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

Jaxbuck
Thump said:
Jim Lachey said on the radio today that he would have entered the portal every year if it were around then to get the most out OSU each year.

Just because one enters the portal does not necessarily mean that they want to leave.

Players have all of the leverage and should use it until guidelines are put in place.
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I would encourage every player to look around or at least be clear in what offers they were getting. It gives you intel on the market and how you are doing as a team.

You should be wanting to constantly learn and improve on ways to make your package of comp and culture a place that most guys will not leave.

Turns you into a talent destination, not just a place to work (and I think Day has done a great job of this).
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

billmac91
Thump said:
Jim Lachey said on the radio today that he would have entered the portal every year if it were around then to get the most out OSU each year.

Just because one enters the portal does not necessarily mean that they want to leave.

Players have all of the leverage and should use it until guidelines are put in place.
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I mean, agreed.

I think it’s pretty well known Leavitt is going to one of three schools, depending on Dante Moore’s decision.

KY is a solid first visit because they’ll come heavy knowing they aren’t a serious contender unless they make a MASSIVE offer by NIL standards. It’ll be nice to walk into Eugene, LSU, and Miami with a sizable offer for them to work off of.
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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

buckeyemania11
With the schedule, scUM will have a very hard time getting above 8-4 at best in 2026 if all they are able to bring in to replace what they are losing are Utah/BYU caliber guys. The outlook for 2027 will be about the same as well if they have the same kind of off-season
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

Jaxbuck
billmac91 said:
I think what Indiana and Miami exposed though, is OSU may be more talented in nearly every position group, but all it takes is a defensive line to wreck the efficiency if the offensive line cannot hold up….and once they offensive line cannot hold up consistently, it dramatically effects our freshman QB even when his protection isn’t bad.

In this case, using tempo can help a weakness compared to the other team (our offensive line versus their defensive line), and maximize our talent at positions where we do have the advantage (go tempo so the defense plays a “base” coverage that allows our offense to exploit our advantages more easily).

I think where the argument to play as slow as Day is, fundamentally breaks down, is when we cannot execute because we just aren’t more talented in one facet of the game. I was rolling with it until Indiana made Swiss cheese of our o-line and then Miami basically did the same thing with stunts.

I guess, IMO, I’m not cutting my nose off in spite of my face…..I feel like Day let Indiana and Miami beat us with (1) position group….i guess (2) if you count special teams. But defensive lines wrecked our season. And you can gameplan around elite defensive lines…..we just didn’t for the most part.
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Totally agree on how they did it but that's an execution thing.

I've watched other teams this bowl season adapt to a fierce pass rush through quick, short passes to the TE's, backs and WR's. They didn't go up tempo, they just stopped dropping their QB deep, rolled him out or whatever.

Listen, if you see a specific team is very vulnerable to tempo because you can run the DL ragged then by all means, but that's just a tactical application of tempo, it isn't an overall strategy. You still have to execute.

I think as the all 22 film starts to come out we will see that Saying had many chances to execute and win vs these teams and defenses. It's not like Day doesn't know how to draw up a quick passing game.
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

Jaxbuck
RuGettinIt said:
You sound like you would be a good CEO. This is the kind of talk that our CEO gives in Company meetings, sans the football.

The ideas and concepts are very much the same. Execution is the key to it all. Well stated.
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It's not a CEO thing, it's years of working to get better at decision making.

I know what the logic failures, cognitive biases and lack of awareness of what the real risks are, what the real bet is feel and sound like because I made them all many times.

I've just made it my business to get better at risk management/decision making and as a result I see the game of football completely different than I did when I was younger.

Football coaches had it right when it was run and stop the run. That as the way to be most efficient. 3yards a a cloud of dust meant you had the ball, he didn't and if you could do that to them instead of them doing that to you, you'll win.

Then they took their eye off what really mattered which was scoring. Empty TOP means almost nothing. This is where I had the heart burn with Martyball/Tresselball types. They were content to manage the game to a state where they had a good defense rested and protecting a 1 score lead. That isn't optimal.

June Jones, Mike Leach type went too far the other way and over emphasized scoring alone.

Urban got it back to a modern understanding when he said the best defense was a 14 point lead. His philosophy was power run, keep the ball moving down the field and defense was built to play with a lead then disrupt. Get his offense the ball back as fast as possible either through chaos or a quick score.

I feel like Day has it as right as you can get it now. Manage the game so that you limit the opponents possessions in relation to yours AND score the most points possible in your possessions. Sounds simple but it's really an important distinction. He's intentionally maximizing his edge in talent and minimizing his exposure to random variance.

There can be no question that is the right overall approach. The results not being what you want doesn't invalidate the approach.
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

billmac91
Jaxbuck said:
This at least gets to the real issue people are giving all kinds of different labels to.

Execution.

Doesn't matter how fast/slow you go, if you don't execute, you don't get the maximum points per possession you could have. When the other team can punch back more and more this is going to get you into tighter games or beat.

It isn't because of tempo. It isn't because of the number of possessions. It's because you failed to execute and extract enough points in the possessions you did have. If you go faster on purpose (not in scenarios where you have no choice) when you have an execution problem, you are just going to give the ball back to the other team faster.

The constraint of the game of football is 1) the clock and 2) the rules that require an exchange of possessions. If you speed up, you can absolutely get more possessions per game but you are at the same time going to give your opponent more possessions and when you do that you are giving them more opportunities for random variance to express itself.

Ask yourself what is the ideal outcome of every possession? If you could make it happen what would it be?

For me it's score a TD after the longest possible time of possession possible which is theoretically 60 game minutes. Even though that is fantasy, it's true north of how the game actually works. Anything you do that gets away from that, you are going in the wrong direction.

Give me points (ideally a TD) after every possession and each possession take 8-9 minutes and I will end up with 2-3 more possessions than the other guy. THEN, he will be playing from behind in the fewer possessions he has so the last few will be severely constrained (in my favor) and I am going to win every time. When you are the more skilled team, this is the only sensible strategy.

It breaks down when execution breaks down, like anything else.
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I think what Indiana and Miami exposed though, is OSU may be more talented in nearly every position group, but all it takes is a defensive line to wreck the efficiency if the offensive line cannot hold up….and once they offensive line cannot hold up consistently, it dramatically effects our freshman QB even when his protection isn’t bad.

In this case, using tempo can help a weakness compared to the other team (our offensive line versus their defensive line), and maximize our talent at positions where we do have the advantage (go tempo so the defense plays a “base” coverage that allows our offense to exploit our advantages more easily).

I think where the argument to play as slow as Day is, fundamentally breaks down, is when we cannot execute because we just aren’t more talented in one facet of the game. I was rolling with it until Indiana made Swiss cheese of our o-line and then Miami basically did the same thing with stunts.

I guess, IMO, I’m not cutting my nose off in spite of my face…..I feel like Day let Indiana and Miami beat us with (1) position group….i guess (2) if you count special teams. But defensive lines wrecked our season. And you can gameplan around elite defensive lines…..we just didn’t for the most part.
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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

Thump
buckeyemania11 said:
None of these guys have any serious experience outside of that Utah/Idaho sphere.

The OC and DC are fine for Utah/BYU. Both looked pedestrian in the 1 or 2 games they had this year against actual good teams. Neither were upgrading jobs either until scUM hired Whittingham and he decided to bring all his buds along.

These are not great moves for a supposed "upper level" program. I think all of these guys are going to have issues adjusting in general and especially to the heightened competition level.
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They better get acquainted with New England and Nova Scotia REALLY quick!
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Look Who's Transferring Now (The Portal)

Thump
billmac91 said:
Lolz…..I mean, I guess it’s smart. Just get a huge bag on the table to start with so you can set the bar with the real players.
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Jim Lachey said on the radio today that he would have entered the portal every year if it were around then to get the most out OSU each year.

Just because one enters the portal does not necessarily mean that they want to leave.

Players have all of the leverage and should use it until guidelines are put in place.
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2026 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, Arrogant Twatwaffles, Emasculated Cucks, Feckless Marmots, Dirty Cheaters "Mid"chigan

buckeyemania11
osuvictory1 said:
Honestly, I think some of their hires seem fine. The big knock on them is not being acquainted for long periods of time with players east of the Mississippi.
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None of these guys have any serious experience outside of that Utah/Idaho sphere.

The OC and DC are fine for Utah/BYU. Both looked pedestrian in the 1 or 2 games they had this year against actual good teams. Neither were upgrading jobs either until scUM hired Whittingham and he decided to bring all his buds along.

These are not great moves for a supposed "upper level" program. I think all of these guys are going to have issues adjusting in general and especially to the heightened competition level.
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