NFBuck said:

I guess this is kind of the bare minimum I need to see to be satisfied (and it is harsh because FUCK THEIR CHEATING ASSES):

- Removal of all recognition of their 2021-2023 seasons to include wins, the fugazi B1G championships, and their fugazi NC*
- 3 year postseason ban
- Significant recruiting restrictions
- 1 year suspension & show cause for Sniffles.
- Suspensions for any coaches involved in the scheme with show causes for any coach that was evasive or that outright mislead the NCAA
- Significant fines & enhanced oversight on their program by the NCAA
- Thorough/aggressive public reprimand from the NCAA detailing their transgressions with names named.
- Kneel before Zod Day.

That, to me, would be as close to the "death penalty" as we will see in modern times. Now, will that impact their program as severely as we want? In today's CFB, I'm not sure. It will definitely hurt. But today's CFB with NIL isn't what it was 10 years ago. They may very well still be able to attract top recruits and field competent teams because money talks. CFB isn't about pride and pageantry like it used to be. Most top recruits look at it as a lucrative job now. If their donors still fork out $$$, they'll probably still get recruits. Where it will likely hurt the most would be their ability to attract top-flight coaches and their ability to put depth around any star player(s) they sign.

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I would also add a lifetime ban for Stallions and Harbaugh. I realize that neither is likely to ever coach in NCAA again, but it would still send a strong message......

pretty sure, by definition, one can't have a private moment in public.

LovelandBuckeye said:

Or...buy a Hellcat and a phatass chain, am I right? I know which way I would have went at 18-22 years old. Because "it" is undefeated.

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You prep like she suggests, you can have a lot of that which is undefeated for a lot longer. And while you're actually still an active star athlete, you don't need he bling to get it.

calibuck said:

Also believe we're seeing an aspect of recruiting, where the vultures hang out in the weeds (trees), and see how a football power is shaping up, and then review the commit list, and try to steal/cherry pick/woo away some of the lower rated commits with the offer of more NIL and/or playing time. Can see the recent DB defect in that category. Looking up and seeing three more highly ranked players at your same position, might tend to dull the tastes for that program, no matter what the DB coach might say/argue. tOSU is littered with 3*s that have worked/played their way to AA status, and first rounders in the NFL, and making millions there. Get that, got that. But the added incentive of NIL money now, might be the straw that breaks the camels back. Now on the other hand, the school (tOSU being of note), might lament the loss in the papers, but secretly pleased that a schollie opened up (along with NIL and university money distribution) to spend competing for another area of need/want. PS, not naive enough to not believe this has been a recruiting tactic since time out of mind, just becoming more prevalent nowadays.

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Vultures to OSU fans.

Scrappy underdogs trying to find ways to compete with the Death Star to them.

NFBuck said:

I'll need to see the official penalties, but if they're getting him for 3 years of cheating, why only a 2 year postseason ban? Even if it got blown up mid-year 3, they still cheated in that season which had a direct impact on their results. Anything less than a 3 year postseason ban is some soft shit.

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I guess this is kind of the bare minimum I need to see to be satisfied (and it is harsh because FUCK THEIR CHEATING ASSES):

- Removal of all recognition of their 2021-2023 seasons to include wins, the fugazi B1G championships, and their fugazi NC*
- 3 year postseason ban
- Significant recruiting restrictions
- 1 year suspension & show cause for Sniffles.
- Suspensions for any coaches involved in the scheme with show causes for any coach that was evasive or that outright mislead the NCAA
- Lifetime ban for Stalions.
- Significant fines & enhanced oversight on their program by the NCAA
- Thorough/aggressive public reprimand from the NCAA detailing their transgressions with names named.
- Kneel before Zod Day.

That, to me, would be as close to the "death penalty" as we will see in modern times. Now, will that impact their program as severely as we want? In today's CFB, I'm not sure. It will definitely hurt. But today's CFB with NIL isn't what it was 10 years ago. They may very well still be able to attract top recruits and field competent teams because money talks. CFB isn't about pride and pageantry like it used to be. Most top recruits look at it as a lucrative job now. If their donors still fork out $$$, they'll probably still get recruits. Where it will likely hurt the most would be their ability to attract top-flight coaches and their ability to put depth around any star player(s) they sign.

lvbuckeye said:

Larry Coker flamed out by year six. Ryan Day won a Natty in year six. i'm just saying.

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Yea Day is definitely not Coker. Coker peaked in year 1 and 2 and then declined every year after.

Holy crap! Sounds like tOSU has become Colorado (in football). Certainly do not/cannot believe that tOSU has recruited a bunch of slugs to play baseball. Not our style - in any sport. Guess it's the scarlet colored glasses talking....Does anyone have a link to a story of what's going on with this program? Thanks in advance...

otisu said:

Per Premierdrum on 11W late yesterday…

A UM-adjacent source, who helped us break both the draft and formal NOA delivery stories, had a bit to say.

Internally, this source says that UM is preparing for-

- "Record-correcting" rear facing sanctions

- A 2-year postseason ban

- Recruiting restrictions

- A 6 to as many as 12 game suspension and show-cause penalty for Moore

- Fines and other administrative penalties (trainings, enhanced monitoring, etc).

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I'll need to see the official penalties, but if they're getting him for 3 years of cheating, why only a 2 year postseason ban? Even if it got blown up mid-year 3, they still cheated in that season which had a direct impact on their results. Anything less than a 3 year postseason ban is some soft shit.

And who do we think is Diebs using to bang this young man under the bucket, in order to get him ready for the rigors of the B10? It's gotta be happening, as well as the strength coach working on lower body strength to withstand the pounding a person takes. Still not certain I see the stud power forward to share the rebounding burden, or maybe sending the small forward into the fray as well. Would be a long time since have seen tOSU send three guys to the boards. Anyway, idle musings on a Friday. Guess we'll see soon enough. Will be visiting daughter in C'bus in mid-December to mid-January, so will hope to get to a game or three to see in person. Also the 2025 version of the women's team....Go Bucks!!

Interesting thought. And if the recruit hits up the school's staff about his money, does that slide him into the category of being money-hungry, or just looking for a bit of parity. And/or does a school gratuitously call up the recruit who's busted his a** at camps, proving his worth, and say that now he's worth more, so here's some more loot? Finally, if a later recruit receives more NIL $ than an earlier one, AND this later recruit has a lesser rating than the early one, would the earlier, more highly rated recruit (in same position), say "hey, how about me!" I do realize that I'm peeling the onion here, but kinda how my mind works sometimes.....PS, happy do not have to make these kind of decisions, and have more respect for the Pantoni's (and Day's) of the world.

Can see the reasoning behind Script's write-up, as well as the year around push to get the best talent in America on your team. Do have a question- are these 'blue chippers' ranked as to their initial/final HS ranking? Or are these blue chippers ranked as to league awards, all star teams, etc. In other words, is there a developmental portion to these rankings? Or strictly as to their rankings as to HSers entering college? Not entirely certain I've said this in the best way. Upper classmen is an easy view, being a junior or senior. But, to me at least, being a Blue Chipper can be a nebulous title, based on several criteria.

Also believe we're seeing an aspect of recruiting, where the vultures hang out in the weeds (trees), and see how a football power is shaping up, and then review the commit list, and try to steal/cherry pick/woo away some of the lower rated commits with the offer of more NIL and/or playing time. Can see the recent DB defect in that category. Looking up and seeing three more highly ranked players at your same position, might tend to dull the tastes for that program, no matter what the DB coach might say/argue. tOSU is littered with 3*s that have worked/played their way to AA status, and first rounders in the NFL, and making millions there. Get that, got that. But the added incentive of NIL money now, might be the straw that breaks the camels back. Now on the other hand, the school (tOSU being of note), might lament the loss in the papers, but secretly pleased that a schollie opened up (along with NIL and university money distribution) to spend competing for another area of need/want. PS, not naive enough to not believe this has been a recruiting tactic since time out of mind, just becoming more prevalent nowadays.

Jaxbuck said:

That’s an issue across MLB, not just these ass clowns.

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Seriously. I have seen several in this article though that have some high potential in RF, including Cleveland. I can see where teams might be trying to move CF to the corners but I can also see that failing as bad as trying to move 2B and 3B talents

Jacksonville. The bold new city of the South.

Remember its name.

Gonna be huge

Bestbuck36 said:

And not a single corner outfielder amongst them.

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That’s an issue across MLB, not just these ass clowns.

Come on big man. We need you is an obvious understatement.

I like this. He seemed out of place on the Bucks. Some guys are just made for their home team so to speak.

LeBron shouldn't have ever left Cleveland, his legacy would have been legendary.

otisu said:

Per Premierdrum on 11W late yesterday…

A UM-adjacent source, who helped us break both the draft and formal NOA delivery stories, had a bit to say.

Internally, this source says that UM is preparing for-

- "Record-correcting" rear facing sanctions

- A 2-year postseason ban

- Recruiting restrictions

- A 6 to as many as 12 game suspension and show-cause penalty for Moore

- Fines and other administrative penalties (trainings, enhanced monitoring, etc).

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The record correcting seems like fun but the rest of that seems pretty light

Darron Lee