Jaxbuck said:

probably because he's not anything close to the GOAT he (and ESPN) have proclaimed him to be.

Truly great players make everyone around them better, then in crunch time they take over and dominate. I don't watch NBA anymore but when he was young, I never saw that from LeBron. I actually watched him quit against the Celtics in a playoff round early on (forget the year 09-10 maybe). That was all I ever needed to see.

Russel, Magic, Bird, Jordan, Kobe...they'd die before they'd quit.

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Some players HATE to lose. Other players love to win. The players you listed hated losing. I've always believed that Lebron loves winning and that is what has always been missing in his game. Probably goes down as the most physical freak in the history of the NBA, but i don't see him as the goat.

Jaxbuck said:

The more I think about this, the funnier it is to me.

I deal with shit like this a lot in my business life at this point so I can almost imagine it. They, apparently, tried to do what I said they'd do and lean on him to take less (thus the ~800K legal bills) and it failed so spectacularly he got every bit of his full benefits (down to golf privileges) and an extra million.

When your power move is so thoroughly trashed that you end up paying the other sides legal AND they put a penalty fee on you....man oh man. Tsun either hired Mother Fucker Jones to negotiate for them or Warde went full Terminator.

TSUN: "Take $3MM and we won't fire you for cause"

WM: "

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TSUN:

"Ok $7MM, full benefits and we'll pay legal fees but that's our final offer"

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It’s annoyed me over the years how many people get paid off for their bad behavior and/or incompetence and get crazy sweetheart deals. Being fortunate enough to have a defined benefit pension myself, I’m very curious as to what the lifetime expected value of the pension that Manuel is going to get due to their waiving of rules re: duration of employment (and chipping in of cash too) is. That seems like a potentially huge payoff to me (don’t know how old he’ll have to be to start collecting) but is being barely reported on as a throw-in benefit.

This is a GREAT success story, probably doesn't get enough ink. UDFA to seven years getting a paycheck! Remember he had some great success starting out, but kinda faded from there. But clearly had enough in the tank to hold onto his job. Am betting he gets the nod for one of the longest NBA lived players from tOSU. Go Bucks!

ScriptOhio said:

https://www.on3.com/news/michigan-warde-manuel-to-receive-7-million-payout-after-stepping-down-as-athletic-director/

Report: Michigan's Warde Manuel to receive $7 million payout after stepping down as athletic director​

Michigan athletic director Warde Manuel will receive a significant financial package after stepping down from his position later this year. According to Front Office Sports’ Amanda Christovich, Manuel’s separation agreement includes a one-time payment of $7 million, along with retirement benefits and reimbursement for legal fees.

Just sayin': Well, $7M + retirement benefits + reimbursement of legal fees = the negotiated rate to keep a fired AD from "blowing the whistle" on scUM.....

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Pure payoff to keep his mouth shut. Manuel shook them down like Paulie Walnuts extorting the local landscaping business.

Captain Buckeye said:

Can these people fucking stop already? No one is going to do anything.

The NCAA was presented with the biggest game fixing scheme in sports history and gave them nothing. What, they going to give them the hammer because the head coach got some?

Seriously just stop. Nothing is happening to these guys. They got away with it. They stole 3 years of college football, won the title, and got away with it.

Worse than that, they’ll run a documentary on the 2023 team in a few years to celebrate it.

Nothing is happening to them.

Other than the ass beating they’re about to catch in 5 months.

Nothing is happening to them.

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Sadly agree.

Me these days regarding tsun...

pnuts34 said:

Login to view embedded media Urban F Meyer terrified them so much that they went down this path. Talk about your rival living rent free in your head.

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Go back and watch the 2019 Game and you can almost see the moment. I think it was Dobbins long run. They panned to Harbaugh and you could see a fuse blew in that simple, chimp like mind of his.

I think his ego could somehow hold on after being bested by Urban but then when the protege beat him he fucking snapped.

Looking back now it all started after that 2019 edition of The Game.

calibuck said:

Did not enjoy seeing her defender slide back to the basket, even when Elsa was standing at the free-throw line! Take the shot! Some centers can drive, shuck and jive around the basket for a fade-away or a hook, but I'd take rebounding a missed shot and putting it back up. Have mentioned earlier that playing face-up and back-to-the basket are two different skill sets that all centers need to have. We all know that 3 pointers won't all fall, so there needs to be an element of OR included. Do see the potential in this Buckeye team. Maybe the new asst coach will start emphasizing. Am eagerly awaiting to see this edition on the floor. Will be there in person to watch.

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She shot that foul line jumper a bit two years ago (not very well but made it now and then) but not at all last season. IMO taking it and making it would go a LONG way in opening up other things and making the offense less susceptible to dry spells.

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East Fultonham?

Haven't really figured out whether it's an element of developing early, playing in a lesser HS league, having better teammates, or simply being a superior athlete. And how to compare, say an OT from Florida, versus one from New Hampshire. Yet the talking heads do, and you gotta know that they haven't seen film, visited, etc both. Or maybe it's an 'got the world by the short hair' attitudes. Or do the 3*s simply outwork the 5*s. Certainly not smart enough to know. Someone with more technical savvy and time can probably cobble together tOSU's 3* history into who made first NFL round, versus how many 5* started and ended up in NFL first round.

Will be interesting who shows out in the short yardage situations. From what have seen/read, all of these guys can do the break aways, by making second level miss, but the guys that can get the one-two yards between the tackles have yet to surface (or so I believe). Also believe that will be the quickest way to the field. Anyway, call it rationalization, but believe tOSU will be just fine at RB this year. Will let next year alone until next year.

Did not enjoy seeing her defender slide back to the basket, even when Elsa was standing at the free-throw line! Take the shot! Some centers can drive, shuck and jive around the basket for a fade-away or a hook, but I'd take rebounding a missed shot and putting it back up. Have mentioned earlier that playing face-up and back-to-the basket are two different skill sets that all centers need to have. We all know that 3 pointers won't all fall, so there needs to be an element of OR included. Do see the potential in this Buckeye team. Maybe the new asst coach will start emphasizing. Am eagerly awaiting to see this edition on the floor. Will be there in person to watch.

I remember when Oldsmobile picked up the tab to send Sparty’s band to the Rose Biwl. But that was in the 1950s and the Midwest was an industrial powerhouse. Much of what made the Midwest so powerful is now located in Dixie.

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Buckeye86 said:

Remember the glory days when owning several car dealerships gave you enough cash to put together a championship roster? Alas, the college football world has blown past Bama’s ability to pay.

It’s humorous that Saban is at the forefront of the reform movement. “These changes in college football completely undermine the way I used to successfully cheat! It has to stop!”

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The one few topics I agreed with Colin Cowherd about is that he said early on in NIL that the B1G would overcome the SEC because has all their programs in small college towns with limited big company’s and not nearly as much wealthy alumni. Outside of Dallas, Houston and Atlanta; the B1G is in every major media market in America

MGMT said:

Is he good?

Legit question. What do you guys like about him?

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Unless people have actually studied him and watched him throw 150 different ways....your not going to get an accurate picture of "What do you like about him?". I did find it weird he went through the UCLA love faze only for him to actually stay on. However, there could be a lot of reasons of why that was and I am not meant to know.

Except I don't see Sparty as having the horses to take retribution. Ann Arbor seems to own the whole state.

MGMT said:

Is he good?

Legit question. What do you guys like about him?

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Yes. To start off with the the downside, I could see concerns that he has peaked early and the upside may not be as high as some other targets. The flip side of that is that he has a low floor and would be a solid QB if he doesn't improve a ton. Really we need a QB to distribute the ball to the insane talent at WR, we don't need a miracle worker. More importantly we need a leader and Brady seems to be one.

He is also quite mobile for his size, think Will Howard (a great comparison all around imo). As long as he knows when to tuck it, he can move the chains with his feet and frustrate a defense. On throwing the ball, he isn't exactly a sniper with accuracy but gets it done. Plenty of velocity and I would like to see work on touch throws and intermediate throws (that's the vast majority of HS prospects though). He does seem to have good pocket presence and I love his size to see the field.

Overall I would be very happy to have him as our QB in this class.

Is he good?

Legit question. What do you guys like about him?

Both things can be true; guy is objectively talented; guy was insanely productive and efficient for a vast majority of the season; guy also struggled with disguised coverages and ferocious pass rush.

It’s okay to go into an off season with things to learn and improve. Hell, Day did too. Those losses fall on the staff just as much as him if not more.

Ultimately ha seems to have the intellectual capacity to learn the complex defenses and process. Arthur Smith will probably help a bit as it relates to more snap reads and identifying coverages.

Please work your butt off to force yourself onto the field and stay in tact during fall camp.

Dudes burst and speed are too special to not have against our schedule this season.

cincibuck said:

Has any one in the media watched Manning in a game with a team with a heartbeat.

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Why would they watch the games? They already have the story written.