MGMT said:

I’m not being snide I am genuinely asking:

If you feel confident offensively , why?

Why do you feel anything will be different with the pass protection against a defensive line that might be better than IU’s?

Why do we feel like we are going yo
Score enough points to get this thing? What will suddenly be different about Sayin under pressure? Will he suddenly learn coverage identification in a couple weeks?

Does Day calling the offense suddenly make you feel better? Are we suffenlu
Going to stop 13-14 personnel in the red zone?

I’m not saying I don’t feel good about it but I’m trying to think about what’s going to just be suddenly sifferent and ultimately be the actual difference(s).

I dunno

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Both are good defenses but they get there in different ways and against OSU level offense those different ways matter. A lot.

IU removes your plan A, they constrict (especially in the RZ) and force you to play "left handed". That constriction is them compressing variance in their favor. They affect your structure.

Miami is the more traditional kind of defense that challenges your execution (my guy can beat your guy) and they play for events (sacks, turnovers, TFL). An elite, well coached offense will figure them out over the course of a game and exploit that.

Both are good but Miami isn't the same kind of threat.

I think a game indoors with Smith and Tate at 100% should make the Buckeyes feel relatively confident regardless.

Couple things that come to my mind about this game:

1) I hope that BP posters recognize that this is the thread to literally Bitch, Moan, and Whine within. I've noticed that there is more than a fair amount of BMW'ing going on in the regular game thread. Typically, it's the less frequent posters and such. But that's precisely why I created this type of thread for each game.

2) Depending upon the amount of times I see heavy formations in the red zone, I'll either be living in this thread or I won't be posting at all.

I’m not being snide I am genuinely asking:

If you feel confident offensively , why?

Why do you feel anything will be different with the pass protection against a defensive line that might be better than IU’s?

Why do we feel like we are going yo
Score enough points to get this thing? What will suddenly be different about Sayin under pressure? Will he suddenly learn coverage identification in a couple weeks?

Does Day calling the offense suddenly make you feel better? Are we suffenlu
Going to stop 13-14 personnel in the red zone?

I’m not saying I don’t feel good about it but I’m trying to think about what’s going to just be suddenly sifferent and ultimately be the actual difference(s).

I dunno

pnuts34 said:

Heck, I'd take his own playbook from 2021 and 2022 as well.

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but not his 2019 playbook that had the exact same level of red zone issues

iambrutus said:

Its that time of year again, my daughter came home on Saturday night - she spent the day making her now locally famous hard tack candy. Then it was her idea (she's 20, son is 15) for both kids, her BF, his GF to go see Christmas lights and then back to our place where the "kids" all made gingerbread houses and we played a few card games - it was a great day.

the older i get the more i LOVE this time of year.

She's planning out the Jesus cake today, prepping appetizers to take to my parents on Wednesday

Hope all of you knuckleheads have a Merry Christmas season with family and loved ones

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We make a “Happy Birthday Jesus” cinnamon bundt cake that my wife has picked up making since her grandmother has passed.

It is unbelievable!

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Jaxbuck said:

Good to hear

(but what the hell else is he going to say?)

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exactly.

"he's not really that good so im a little nervous" just wouldnt cut it

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Good to hear

(but what the hell else is he going to say?)

Fungo Squiggly said:

He'd be crazy to transfer out of state with that name. He was born to be in Colorado.

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Maybe he can transfer to Wisconsin

Telekinesis said:

Got it, makes sense.

This is moving away from the topic at hand and just a general observation:

Unfortunately, we haven’t witnessed good results when dealing with situational applications. Day (or whoever we’re pinning it on this week) seems to end up out of character and doesn’t know how to handle that kind of pressure.

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Well that gets into why i question the speed up idea.

1) if you are already struggling with execution at anything (football, baseball, life) you don't go faster, you'll just make the same mistakes on higher volume.

2) we saw IU speed up a young QB for the first time all year and the results were predictably sub-great. Again, I question the tactical efficacy of that path.

3) Back to strategy and all we have been talking about-Be efficient on your 10 possessions, get your 35 points and in the process only give the other guy his 8-9 possessions and lower his spins of the wheel at your expense.

So I think we haven't seen Day do any of the situational applications of up tempo with the more skilled team because he knows (and only he would know) that the execution risk isn't worth it.

Going back to the IU game, it was execution, not pace that did us in and I'd bet a fair sum that the execution suffered more from Smith being banged up than we will ever know. IU did a great job on Sayin but he didn't have his monster at full strength either.

Bill Lucas said:

Please dust off the Chip Kelly playbook from last years run.

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Heck, I'd take his own playbook from 2021 and 2022 as well.

Thump said:

Sunshine-pumpers are going to be stuck with that narrative.

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Yup. That is his target audience. He's going to use their bullshit to get paid

They play four playoff teams next year, and it's pretty unlikely the team is better talent wise than this year after players jump ship. Biff is probably their ceiling.

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KYBuck4858 3 hours ago
Top LB target AJ Randle tells Simmons the 3 schools standing out to him right now are OSU, Bama, and TN. Still very early since his recruiting process didn’t blow up until a few months ago, and he’ll take a ton of spring visits, but we’re certainly in a great spot.

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KYBuck4858 20 Dec 2025, 4:02 pm
Cypher had said he wanted to be a peer recruiter this class. He doesn’t have to look very far, and can focus on these 3 guys from his state that we want.
Teammate Top100 Edge Rashad Streets - has a top5 of OSU, Oregon, TN, Bama, and South Carolina. Visited for first time for the PSU game.
DT Nate Kamba - Was LJ’s first offer this cycle. Has an unofficial top2 of OSU and South Carolina. Visited us for June camp and for the PSU game.
LB AJ Randle - One of the hottest prospects in the entire country. Has absolutely blown up. Grew up an OSU fan. Visited us for the first time for the UCLA game.

Please dust off the Chip Kelly playbook from last years run.