Jesus man, he looks like a grown arse man that’s been in the NFL for two years already

Reminds me of a mini Sayin. His PT and the moment didnt seem too big for him. The INT was CHjr's fault more than anything. But Fahey looked accurate and decisive. I think his play made the hill TSC is climbing that much steeper

A little nervous after both lines were pretty underwhelming against Ball State

Luke should try to save his job and win a big game or something against ND

Clemson is hilariously bad

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gmen6981 said:

Didn't the Broncos do that later in the game? Go for it on a 4th and 3 instead of kicking a long field goal, while having a kicker who can boot 50 yarders no problem? That 3 points would have won it, or as you say, at least forced scUM into a 2 point attempt just to tie it.

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I don't remember. I watched the start of the game and the end. They might have at another point in the game. How they were stopping the Michigan offense, they could have won the game with only field goals. No need to risk fourth down conversions.

System_id said:

Let's hope Matty P stuffs Sark in a dumpster again. Also REALLY curious to see what Arthur Smith has up his sleeve against Muschamp. Still surprised Sark canned Kwiatkowski last year.

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I read somewhere Muschamp is pryyy man-heavy? Is that true? Like he’s a heavy man and eats other people’s food.

No seriously, if he is I’d have to think DMC, JJ and even Inniss/Boyd can do some exploiting.

Zurp said:

They won't announce that a mistake was made.
Also, were any bets paid out that would be different if WMU wins the game? Probably. I know the cheaters didn't cover, so if you took WMU plus the points, you won. But if you picked WMU straight up, you lost your money. If you picked the cheaters straight up, you already got your money. Can the gamblers get their money back?
The reason I ask is we know that the gamblers have a seat in the room. They may be sitting against the back, not talking in the open. But they're there. And they wanted the cheaters to win.
Not saying they were talking to the refs. But they're present for the meetings where it SHOULD come out that the refs made the mistake.
But that announcement will never be made.

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Very few people would have taken WMU ML. That would be 'fuck you' money that sharps don't spend because, by the numbers, it's a fools errands. Almost nobody takes scUM ML because the risk isn't worth the payout.

scUM was a 28pt favorite. If you took WMU to cover, obviously you did. If you took scUM to cover, that last TD wouldn't have made a shit bit of difference.

Money can corrupt. But in this case, Vegas is the scape-goat and/or boogeyman. No money of note was changing hands unless some random ttun fan dropped thousands last second on a hail Mary. Possible, but I doubt it.

I can't speak to the live betting situation. But statistically it's far less used than 'standard' pre-game lines.

Anybody remember The Game, 02? Independent clock operator put one more second back on. It'll be interesting to see how this is any different.

pnuts34 said:

We all get there brother. I graduated in 1999 and a just a year ago OSU was in the recruiting battle for Richard McNutt from that class' son. Mike Doss was in that class and he might as well be a player from the 70s to some in their 30s and 20s now . And im sure the next few posts will be guys who remember the Buckeyes in the 60s, 70s and 80s lol. Life comes at you fast

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I remember wrestling Tim Anderson (and getting DESTROYED) in High School. Believe me, I know what you mean.

johnson2443 said:

Ummmm, it’s weird being the same age as old people I guess I’m there now. Beanie was a freshman my senior year at school and now his son is being posted on here? Crazy

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We all get there brother. I graduated in 1999 and a just a year ago OSU was in the recruiting battle for Richard McNutt from that class' son. Mike Doss was in that class and he might as well be a player from the 70s to some in their 30s and 20s now . And im sure the next few posts will be guys who remember the Buckeyes in the 60s, 70s and 80s lol. Life comes at you fast

I certainly don't expect another 14-7 game this year.

Ugh the Big Ten has me agreeing with Dave Biddle. What a damn mess!

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System_id said:

Been seeing a lot of people weirdly lukewarm on the defense which is surprising to me I guess. Yeah they didn't look like a generational defense from the jump but they definitely looked like they'll be a Top 5 unit by the end of the year. They honestly looked better than I thought. Other than the trick play there weren't any huge busts like we'd usually see.

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I think people will overreact to things they see, and Ohio State fans (I know everyone does) tend to forget the other team is going to give Ohio State its best shot right out of the gate, even in bodybag games.

I seriously doubt the defense did anything but basic stuff yesterday - I didn't get to watch much until the 4th quarter. If Ball State's coaches have any talent whatsoever, they know there would be some basic cover 3 defense going on most the day with not a lot of blitzing. Again I didn't see a lot, but if the tackling was good, the schematic stuff doesn't bother me much.

Been seeing a lot of people weirdly lukewarm on the defense which is surprising to me I guess. Yeah they didn't look like a generational defense from the jump but they definitely looked like they'll be a Top 5 unit by the end of the year. They honestly looked better than I thought. Other than the trick play there weren't any huge busts like we'd usually see.

MGMT said:

Legit asking did they look bad? The score doesn’t lie but can mislead - 13-12 looks brutal for a game like that. Was Underwood actual trash?

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Sock is wondering if he is that bad, if it’s coaching, or is it both? He doesn’t even have the basics down. Footwork isn’t great and he doesn’t go through his reads. Wasn’t this guy the best player on most recruiting services on every recruiting site? Sock so confused.

Buckeyefrankmp said:

If WMU kicks a field goal early in the game instead of thinking they need to score touchdowns, they would have been up 8. Michigan would have needed the 2 point conversion.

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that too...or if they don't snap the damn ball with 15 or 20 seconds on the final offensive drive....or if they don't botch the snap on 3rd and short...or if the refs call a CLEAR and BLATANT facemask on the 2nd to last drive...

So many what ifs.

One thing that isn't a what if is WMU got absolutely fucked on the clock review.

Mike80 said:

They looked absolutely awful.

If the WMU QB keeps the ball more on the dives and makes better reads all game, they lose by 2+ TDs.

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If WMU kicks a field goal early in the game instead of thinking they need to score touchdowns, they would have been up 8. Michigan would have needed the 2 point conversion.

MGMT said:

Legit asking did they look bad? The score doesn’t lie but can mislead - 13-12 looks brutal for a game like that. Was Underwood actual trash?

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They looked absolutely awful.

If the WMU QB keeps the ball more on the dives and makes better reads all game, they lose by 2+ TDs.

Legit asking did they look bad? The score doesn’t lie but can mislead - 13-12 looks brutal for a game like that. Was Underwood actual trash?

Michigan's lawyers should be going over Bryce Underwood's NIL contract to see how they can get out of it and move on from him next year. He was ass last year and he continues to be ass. No improvements.