ORD_Buckeye said:

Their first inclination clearly was to cover it up. It was only after they lost to TOSU, they were eliminated from the CFP, signing day came and went, AND the mistress talked, her parents threatened to go nuclear and I assume the university lawyers spoke up that they did the "right thing."

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Buckeye86 said:

That’s a funny but most likely accurate way to look at it.

The team was “betrayed” by someone being held accountable and the higher ups breaking the mold by not ignoring and covering up all of the bullshit that program was neck deep in.

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BuckeyesGunn said:

Is everyone at ttun an insufferable self-righteous hypocrite?

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On being college football’s only two-time Heisman Trophy winner​

“Well, it means a lot, but I’ll be honest with you, I still think it’s gonna be broken. You know, I did it, so I know that there’s somebody else out there that’s gonna do it. But what it means to me, it really reminds me of how fortunate I’ve been to play on some great teams during my time at The Ohio State University. I played with some great coaches at The Ohio State University, but the teams that I played on, they are what really, really made me who I am and gave me the opportunity to do the things that I did during my time there. So I think of those folks because they are the ones that really made the difference. They made it happen, and I’m delighted to have had that opportunity to play with them because, again, they made it happen.”

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On the current college football players he admires​

“Well, I admire a lot of college football players. I certainly pay a whole lot of attention to The Ohio State University, and I really appreciate the things that our offense has done at The Ohio State University. Julian Sayin has done a terrific job there as a young quarterback. I like him. I like our running back, Bo Jackson, who’s doing an outstanding job. As a matter of fact, I can tell you that I like all those backs in the backfield that Ohio State has, and I’m looking forward to seeing what they do from this point on because they still have a chance to do a great job and maybe even win another national championship. Who knows?”

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On what Columbus and the state of Ohio mean to him​

“Well, you have to know that I was born at The Ohio State University Hospital, so as you can imagine, that means a lot to me when I can be on that field and look on the south side of the field and see the actual hospital that I was born in. It means a whole heck of a lot to me. When I was a young kid, I can remember walking down to The Ohio State University, standing on the south side of the field, looking in — it was a time when you could look inside Ohio Stadium — and thinking, man, if I had an opportunity to play here, wouldn’t that be fantastic?”

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“And it ended up being a dream come true. So it was unbelievable what that meant to me to have that chance to play at The Ohio State University, and not only me play there, but to have my brothers play with me because I played with two of my brothers during my time at Ohio State. So that was just a wonderful opportunity, not only for me, but for my family because my folks, who always followed us, had a chance to come to Ohio State University, watch their kids play, and enjoy all the things that went on in the city of Columbus, Ohio, as we played our football there.”

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Skull Session: ESPN Ranks All 64 College Football Playoff Teams Since 2014, Archie Griffin Calls It “A Dream Come True” to Be a Buckeye and Praises Julian Sayin and Bo Jackson

Bill Connelly ranks all 64 CFP teams since 2014, while Archie Griffin calls it “a dream come true” to have played for the Buckeyes and praises Julian Sayin and Bo Jackson.

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BuckeyesGunn said:

Is everyone at ttun an insufferable self-righteous hypocrite?

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SEREbuckeye said:

I genuinely miss reading Eleven Warriors (and other outlets) cover the gifts players got for being in these bowl games. Was really cool to see these big college stars geek out over a small electronic and tee shirts. Something wholesome about it.

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Merih said:

Once Hartline took the job, the option set for Day in this playoff run is: zero Hartline / leave the team, or 50% of Hartline with planned contingency / gap fill from Day and others. He's chosen the second. Makes sense to me.

The issue with the Indiana game was everyone thought it was 100% of Hartline, but then it wasn't, with zero time to put in a contingency, right after an already emotional high. It was worst case scenario.

This next game is a totally different setup. Everyone knows the constraints and expectations and have a month to work it out. I expect the offense to look much better

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Buckeye86 said:

I have a theory I’ve been thinking about. The click bait headline is that Brian Hartline is too demanding of his wide receivers.

I think this manifests itself in two ways.

First, the shallow rotation. This has been a back burner discussion for several years which I think came more to the fore this season. As Hartline was taken away from the receiver room, I think he had less time to grow the trust he needed in the backups to develop a better rotation, even compared to previous seasons.

Second, and I think this only became a problem this season as he took over play calling responsibilities, his play calling indicates a lack of trust in his wide receivers, especially with run blocking, which, surprise surprise, manifests itself most severely in the red zone and short yardage plays, which have been a massive problem all season.

In my head, the coaching room conversation goes something like this:

Hartline: “The receivers aren’t perfectly executing their run blocks on every single play (to the theory that he’s too demanding of the WRs), we can’t depend on them in short yardage. Bailey, are your guys ready to go?”

Bailey: “Hell yeah, let’s ride!”

Day: “It looks like the TEs are grading out higher than the WRs (I am assuming the position coaches are responsible for giving out the championship grades here, going back to the main thrust of the theory) in run blocking, I guess we’re going to keep going with three and four TE sets in short yardage and the red zone.”

Hartline: “Good, my guys are bad at run blocking.”

Bailey: “Great, my guys are the greatest ever at everything. Can we put five TEs on the field at the same time?”

Hartline as WR coach with a different person at OC who can override his perfectionism and still use the WRs heavily in all situations has been a great formula for Ohio State.

Hartline as the WR coach and OC with no one to override his perfectionism has, in my opinion, led to the baffling over reliance on TEs this season.

I am hopeful that this will be resolved in the post season with Day taking over more of the play call responsibilities, and longer term with the replacement hires.

Maybe I’m always the Buckeye optimist, but replacing Hartline as the best WR coach in the country is impossible, but replacing Hartline as the WR/OC has room for improvement, even as the WR room might take a hit.

Now I’m really going off the deep end here, I think Hartline’s run of insane WR recruiting was winding down in the age of NIL anyways, as each school can only budget for so many truly elite players per position group and Hartline (or anybody else) isn’t going to be stacking them 4-5 deep per class anymore regardless of how good they are at recruiting.

Again, I think the WR room will likely take a hit, but all of these things mitigate how big that hit will be in my always overly optimistic opinion.

Day has been hitting his coaching hires out of the park, and with the right hires this offseason, I again think he has the chance to improve the overall picture on offense despite the loss of Hartline.

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