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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

Zurp
"So, let's suspend him for Games 3 and 4. We're self-imposing this punishment. That shows the NCAA that we're proactive on punishing our coaches for doing shit they shouldn't be doing. We aren't a 'win first' organization."
"But why Games 3 and 4? Why not Games 1 and 2?"
"Because Game 2 is against Oklahoma. We want our head coach available for this. The nation will be watching."
"So winning that game is important?"
"Yep."
"It's more important than punishing our coaches?"
"First, we want to win that game. After that, our first priority is to punish people who deserve it."
"So that is the second priority."
"No, it's our first priority, after winning that game."
"Seems to me that you're trying to be a 'win first' organization."

Not that I want to give Moore any credit as a coach, but how funny would it be to lose Games 3 and 4, after winning Game 2?
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Colonoscopy 2.0 and skirts

ORD_Buckeye
calibuck said:
As a member in the early winter of ones years, have had my share of colonoscopies. Have always been told, 'you'll be semi-awake for this'. Well, have never remembered/felt anything, just remember counting down, and then waking up. Same with cataract surgery...anyone else?
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Definitely awake for both my cataract surgeries. I was pretty out of it but could hear the tools and follow the doc's instructions to "look up" or "look left." Also was aware that he was listening to the Grateful Dead while drilling into my eyeball.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

ORD_Buckeye
Oh8ch said:
Here's a thought -

I am a new president taking over a once proud University. Do I want to continue to squabble with the NCAA on a "he said/she said" basis that continues to make UM look shabby?

Or do I want to open the books and push the football program onto it's own sword over an issue with which I have no connection.

He would piss off a lot of people, but is it time to decide if they are an academic or athletic instution?
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I'm guessing there'll be some adjustment back from Ono's insanity, but the institution is still genetically incapable of admitting fault. We'll see. I know that if I was a respected academic, my condition for taking the job would be to have carte blanche on dealing with the ncaa/football and to let them know that the jock-sniffing is now over.

In the end, Ono accomplished one thing: He exposed them as the football factory that they so piously like to accuse everyone else (particularly us) of being.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

Oh8ch
Here's a thought -

I am a new president taking over a once proud University. Do I want to continue to squabble with the NCAA on a "he said/she said" basis that continues to make UM look shabby?

Or do I want to open the books and push the football program onto it's own sword over an issue with which I have no connection.

He would piss off a lot of people, but is it time to decide if they are an academic or athletic instution?
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

ORD_Buckeye said:
Went to a UF message board. Response was pretty pathetic. Some of them are crowing about how "next level" "stealing" tcun's President is. Most are ecstatic about the jock sniffing and feel that Ono will do everything to get them back on top and will protect the foosball no matter what. Well, I guess they're right about that last bit.
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It's as if they think they're Texas or something basking in the reflected prestige of being like scUM.. Maybe they think it makes them the Harvard of the south.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

buckeyemania11
This weak ass "self imposed" suspension seems like it's more a desperation move to try to help public perception and improve their "look we are the real victims here!" card when the NCAA does lay some kind of hammer. "We self imposed and suspended our dear leader for 2 games and the NCAA still was out to get us!"
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

ORD_Buckeye
NFBuck said:
WTF is wrong with UF bringing on a jock-sniffing clown trying to escape an impending blood-letting and that is currently drowning in lawsuits for other icky behavior? They're supposedly a respectable academic institution...
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Went to a UF message board. Response was pretty pathetic. Some of them are crowing about how "next level" "stealing" tcun's President is. Most are ecstatic about the jock sniffing and feel that Ono will do everything to get them back on top and will protect the foosball no matter what. Well, I guess they're right about that last bit.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

BuckeyeNation27
A reminder: Michigan is charged with (i believe) 6 level 1 violations.

This SuSpEnSiOn of 2 games is self imposed for a single level 2 violation. The goobers celebrating over on MGB and reddit as if this was the final decision are in for a rude awakening.
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Ohio State Wrestling (2015/2017/2018 B1G Champs, 2015 National Champs, 2019 National Runners-up)

RB07OSU
MPhillips said:
Looks like we got Fishback...
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Confirmed, really nice pickup at 184. At this point I think Rogotzke should drop back down to 174 where I feel is his more natural weight anyways. With that commitment, I see the lineup going something like this next year:

125: McCrone
133: Davino
141: Bouzakis
149: Mendez
157: Stiles or Canon
165: Chittum
174. Rogotzke
184: Fishback
197: Shumate
HWT: Feldman

- That assumes quite a bit of bumping around weight classes, but in my eyes puts the best team on the mat.
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

NFBuck
ORD_Buckeye said:
My assumption is that the final straw with Ono was it becoming known to the tcun regents that Ono was made aware of what was on Weiss' laptop and sat on it to protect Harbaugh and the foosball. Even at a place dysfunctionally obsessed with its image like tsun, that's a hard one to bounce back from. Sucks that they allowed him to resign and that he lined up a soft landing. He really needed the shame of being run out on a rail.
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WTF is wrong with UF bringing on a jock-sniffing clown trying to escape an impending blood-letting and that is currently drowning in lawsuits for other icky behavior? They're supposedly a respectable academic institution...
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2026 OH CB Elbert Hill (USC Verbal)

pnuts34
calibuck said:
Our minister is a Trojan grad/legacy. When Riley signed on with the Boys of Troy, his son told me that he wept. That being said, find it hard to believe that Riley's magic runs out this year. Could be, but other than a resurrection of Saban, who would be the replacement. Same thing to be said of Day when the wolves were howling for his head last year. I get that playing a B10 schedule v a Pac10 one hasn't been kind to USC, but there's still enough HS talent within a ten-mile radius of the campus to field a national champion each and every year. (let alone in California). Still believe they'll do better this year, and maybe play the role of spoiler. AND, they'll be a big draw wherever they go. More good than bad, am thinking.
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Agree on who would they find, but the same was said after they canned Sark. There will always be names, especially to a program who wants to win, and expects to win as bad as the Trojans do. Riley was warned of the expectations when he signed that massive deal. He was expected to recruit and win at the level of ol Pete, and he's not even close to that. He's closer to Lane Kiffin as far as the status of the program right now, and throwing money at recruits will leave you, well look at aTm and Miami...
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments - NCAA: no wins taken away, no postseason ban

ORD_Buckeye
My assumption is that the final straw with Ono was it becoming known to the tcun regents that Ono was made aware of what was on Weiss' laptop and sat on it to protect Harbaugh and the foosball. Even at a place dysfunctionally obsessed with its image like tsun, that's a hard one to bounce back from. Sucks that they allowed him to resign and that he lined up a soft landing. He really needed the shame of being run out on a rail.
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