buckeyemania11 said:

This might be a realistic option, Ohio kid from Massillon

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I posted him on the previous page

Drubuck said:

That's accurate to the playoff system if your record gets you into a playoff. Loses aren't as important to the championship goal. For fans like most of us here. This loss is unacceptable and depleting. In the grand scheme of college football now, it's a loss and positions the Buckeyes well in the playoff. Wouldn't be shocked if the conference champ games get dissolved

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Too much $$$ involved for that to ever happen.

lvbuckeye said:

They are playing for an opportunity to play for another opportunity to play for ANOTHER opportunity to play for a natty.

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That's accurate to the playoff system if your record gets you into a playoff. Loses aren't as important to the championship goal. For fans like most of us here. This loss is unacceptable and depleting. In the grand scheme of college football now, it's a loss and positions the Buckeyes well in the playoff. Wouldn't be shocked if the conference champ games get dissolved

This might be a realistic option, Ohio kid from Massillon

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jwinslow said:

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So he will end up at scUM.

pnuts34 said:

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I've seen this kid play in person a few times, he is as advertised, be it against bad competition, will take some adjustment there but he would be a nice addition. Guessing he stays close to home on the West Coast though.

pnuts34 said:

The latter. With the season still going on, its hard to get any concrete Portal options. Coaches are prepping to close the 2025 class for ESD, as well as prep for the CFP and boost morale again after the embarrassment on Saturday

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and they're supposed to enter the portal before being tampered with... whether that happens is another story.

Bestbuck36 said:

How much?

I think we could get him here by the second round

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The reporters covering the team should kick in a little bit for a name like that coming to save Ryan Day.

Ugh I hate this. Looked to have great instincts when he was on the field. Wish he would have been given a chance more in games, because he looked like a gamer.

AuTX Buckeye said:

are these actual targets for OSU or just our hope that they will be active early and often?

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The latter. With the season still going on, its hard to get any concrete Portal options. Coaches are prepping to close the 2025 class for ESD, as well as prep for the CFP and boost morale again after the embarrassment on Saturday.

But I'm just trying to post the OL and DL as that is the focus this off season

iambrutus said:

its been said that Urb would reserve time on Monday to prepare for TTUN, and Day echoed that he did the same, but it certainly does not feel that way

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I'm guessing that time consists of Day looking in the mirror and muttering "you are tough you are tough" to himself for a hour.

NFBuck said:

Basic framework is fine. I don't necessarily think Ryan Day's offense is a bad one at all. We've seen it work beautifully. The issue is his refusal to adjust when it doesn't work. We have elements of our offense that should have dog walked this tCun team, but Day/Chip didn't use it. We needs an OC that can smack Day in the head and say we need to adjust.

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Or someone should've smacked Kelly and said we need to adjust(I mean he's the play caller, I'm just going by the reasons Day said he hired him)

AuTX Buckeye said:

there's a reason Kelly is first on the list....go read the article I posted in his thread..... Mick shoulda been gone a while ago..

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No argument from me about Kelly, I'm just reporting what I read.

NFBuck said:

If Chip Kelly stays, nothing changes. Nothing. They are the same person and an echo chamber in the offensive brain trust kills innovation.

That's easy for us to say. We're not walking away from millions and millions of dollars.

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But if you look at any program, the OC echoes the HC's game plan. That's how HCs build coaching trees. Dan Mullen from Urban Meyer Tree for example, Jim McElwain running Saban's system was just like the offense he ran when he became a HC. HCs aren't known for hiring OCs who don't share their scheme

Gunlife said:

While I agree with a lot of what you said, that's kind of, a lot of peoples point. These weaknesses were obvious. So you coach to your strengths. Not run the ball into their 2 best players every down. It was the worst offensively called game I can remember. (maybe michigan state 2015 when Zeke was in the hospital until weds)

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I've seen 2015 Sparty compared to Saturday's atrocity a few times. It is not the same thing at all. That game was played in shit weather and that was a very good 12-2 Sparty team. This was a .500 tCun team with a HC that looked completely out of place all season, with a walk-on QB, and missing two of their best players (who will be 1st round picks in April). Was it poorly called? Sure, to some extent. But there were other factors at play there that were not present Saturday. This was far, far, far worse.

OregonBuckeye said:

This one is a bummer

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Yeah, not happy to see this one but he wasn't getting PT and I respect his decision even though I do not like it. I hope he does well wherever he lands. But with Simon gone next year and Hicks underperforming, I am certainly concerned for the LB unit unless some young guys step up.

pnuts34 said:

Reading a bunch of insiders, it seems like Kelly stays(Day trusts him too much), but Frye and LJsr and shown the door. And Mick is a name who also could be on the outs as well. Again, take all of this fwiw until the end of the season. But just put the info in the back of your minds
@NFBuck , problem is pretty much every HC uses an OC that has their same philosophy. It just sucks when that philosophy gets exposed, and both men thought they needed to be "tough" and it was just that they were stubborn

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Basic framework is fine. I don't necessarily think Ryan Day's offense is a bad one at all. We've seen it work beautifully. The issue is his refusal to adjust when it doesn't work. We have elements of our offense that should have dog walked this tCun team, but Day/Chip didn't use it. We needs an OC that can smack Day in the head and say we need to adjust.

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are these actual targets for OSU or just our hope that they will be active early and often?

Oh8ch said:

If Ryan Day is an honorable man the buyout would not be an issue.

He did not do the job he was paid to do. "The buck stops with me - where is my next check?" just doesn't get it.

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This post doesn’t make sense. Has nothing to do with honor. He’s won 10+ games every year he’s been here, runs a clean program, graduates players, recruits well and has the highest active winning percentage of any coach in the country. He’s doing the job he’s been hired for, for the most part. If his only job was to beat scum, then he is a failure. It’s not though so why the hell should he seek to forfeit any possible buyout?

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heisman said:

Believe it or not, they are much worse on the interior. They really need a starting center. Hinzman did well at LG, but there is a reason they moved him from C at the end of last year. All three IOL vs. tCun graded below 50, with Hinzman at only 42.3. That's hard to do. I couldn't find another P5 OL that performed worse.

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I think there's more depth on the interior though than the outside. Even if you move Hinzman back to OG, and move Tshabola to backup, Padilla and Montgomery can play OC. And Siereveld, Van Sickle and the one Armstrong brother can play the other OG spot.