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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

RugbyBuck
I get Mark Richt vibes from Day. Irrespective of the fact that Richt didn't win an NC, I think that's where we're headed if not already there. To extend the analogy, UGA started really winning when they brought back a former defensive player who'd successfully coached at a comparable level school...
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Name, Image, & Likeness (NIL) at tOSU

Jaxbuck
buckeyebri said:
One thing that I’ve quickly come to the realization of, is that more than ever college football is no longer about the institution. No longer, and Charles alludes to this, are players coming to Ohio State to be a Buckeye. The Brotherhood and Carmen are going to quickly fade into the past. I highly doubt the more coveted players are coming here to play school.

At some point the fallacy of “College” sports will end. The current version of NIL and player free agency is unsustainable. The push to a 24 team playoff is nothing more than a money grab. I suspect at some point conference alignment will completely fall apart.

It’s going to be interesting to watch this unfold over the next 5 years.
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I’ve been beating the drum since this started. Quit acting like it’s still part of The University and treat it for what it really is.

Fans are still crazy passionate about NFL teams. Fandom is handed down through generations and players feel connected to their organizations (to a degree).

It won’t turn into the Charlie Finley Oakland A’s unless you let it.
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2026 tOSU Offense Discussion

brodybuck21
gmen6981 said:
Love me some JT. One of my all time favorite players. I think my favorite "leadership" moment of his was when he went ham in the 4th qtr of the crazy comeback against PSU. Bucks had just scored to pull within one score and JT was fired up, running and jumping all the way down the OSU sideline yelling "This is OUR fucking house! Our house!" at the entire team.
I would really like to see him on staff in some capacity.
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same! his locker room clips that have surfaced since he left have been awesome to watch and really show why he was so respected.
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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

Jaxbuck
DaddyBigBucks said:
Not sure what to believe at this point

But I do wonder if Day, apart from having been a great OC, will be remembered as Ohio State’s Larry Coker
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Coker was a terrible tactical coach and couldn’t keep up anywhere near the same level of talent acquisition as his predecessor so I don’t think either of those really fit Day. At least not as dramatically as it did with Coker.

I keep using the Earle and Coop mash up as the comp I think fits Day. He took over a machine, like Earle, but in the end couldn’t sustain the same overall success. Like Cooper he just has a big game problem.

Big games reveal the fragility of his set up. Great when nothing goes wrong, can take a little bit of adversity to the plan but if/when things get off track you get the catastrophic loss.

Also like Coop (not Earle) in his demeanor. A lot more Frank the Tank “no one freak out” than Cool Hand Luke in his make up. I question his overall leadership (not his empathy and kindness). You have to have a certain firmness in you to be a true leader of men and I think he’s more of the passive aggressive wig out type that doesn’t command a ton of respect. Just pure speculation on my part.
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Name, Image, & Likeness (NIL) at tOSU

buckeyebri
Jaxbuck said:
He's not saying anything people haven't already touched on but it's good to hear it from someone with his insight/access.

The interesting thing to me is this: he touches on it in his TEAM comments- well, the business world (all organizations really) already know there are many tests to give you insight into how a person ticks and how they will interact (the goal being to find the 5 best people to achieve a result- not the 5 most talented individuals).

To amplify LeChuck's point- How does any of that work with teenagers? These are not fully formed frontal lobe having human beings. Add in the money and the distractions/competing forces.....? Yikes.

How are you going to differentiate beyond money? Seriously- I'd start with the Undefeated. Not run a whore house but in the broader sense of understanding the best way to get a young mans attention is (typically) the young woman and go from there.

Anyone who has ever raised their own teenager is just laughing at Ryan Day (and all coaches right now) thinking I wouldn't want your job for all the whiskey in Ireland. Good fucking luck pal.

Which gets back to the might be time to adjust expectations moving forward line of thinking.

You juggle all those chainsaws year after year- fans need to calm the fuck down about going undefeated and style points. It will very likely become a war of attrition and some ugly, ugly champions that are the last team standing.
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One thing that I’ve quickly come to the realization of, is that more than ever college football is no longer about the institution. No longer, and Charles alludes to this, are players coming to Ohio State to be a Buckeye. The Brotherhood and Carmen are going to quickly fade into the past. I highly doubt the more coveted players are coming here to play school.

At some point the fallacy of “College” sports will end. The current version of NIL and player free agency is unsustainable. The push to a 24 team playoff is nothing more than a money grab. I suspect at some point conference alignment will completely fall apart.

It’s going to be interesting to watch this unfold over the next 5 years.
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HC Ryan Day (B1G Coach of Year, B1G Champion, National Champion)

AuTX Buckeye
DaddyBigBucks said:
Not sure what to believe at this point

But I do wonder if Day, apart from having been a great OC, will be remembered as Ohio State’s Larry Coker
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I think that is a little harsh unless we fall off a cliff. Coker was immediately a national title winner if I remember then they were irrelevant after we ended them and fired a year or two later. Day has had much more sustained success than Coker. Stoops/Mack Brown might be the right comps for Day
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Mark Pantoni (Assistant Athletic Director, Player Personnel)

Jaxbuck
Captain Buckeye said:
Are Alliegro, McQuin and Little Jr. really hits though? They’re fine but none of them have been players where if you take them off the field it’s debilitating. Alliegro and Little Jr were also starters for major college football programs.

With that said, I think he was directed to get older players. Nearly all of the players were old. I’m not saying he should go but whatever parameters he was given didn’t pan out either. To me he’s just struggled finding dudes when they aren’t obvious.
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We have zero insight into the constraints he has worked under.

Who did his boss tell him to focus on? What kind of budget has he been given?

I mean speculate away like we do on any topic but this one and coach Mick are the two that people are just talking out of their ass about if they choose to opine. We know dick and we can infer dick from what little we do know.
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Game Thread Northwestern at tOSU, Sat. Nov. 14th, noon ET, FOX

Captain Buckeye
lvbuckeye said:
Iowa has a much better defense than Ohio State.
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A better coached and more sound defense. They’re going to line up correctly at least.

Also have no clue what to expect. If Chiles plays I really think it’s not a great matchup for OSU. Patricia has struggled with corky offenses and Chip Kelly is the king of those. If Chiles plays I fully expect to be sitting watching the game on mute by the third quarter again (my move for some reason when it goes to shit).

While the NW defense isn’t great at run defense they don’t have to sit back worried about the QB either. Fully expect them to get after Luke.

I sort of wish this game was at NW so OSU fans don’t boo again. I hate when that happens.
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Mark Pantoni (Assistant Athletic Director, Player Personnel)

Captain Buckeye
billmac91 said:
This is a tough one IMO……bc it isn’t just about identifying a talented player, it almost becomes “political” in a sense. In today’s NIL era, the perfect example is Bo Jackson. OSU actually had to fight to keep him on the team last year…..at one point they assumed he was gone. In that process, they were identifying elite RB’s to “recruit” in the portal. In a tough negotiation, they ended up opening the wallet a bit more than they originally intended and kept him. In that process, they also decided bringing in a “elite” RB portal would be a net negative to program and opted instead to go with Jakobi Jackson who was a depth piece intended not to rock the boat.

All that to say, it isn’t simply identifying talent and bringing it in…..there’s roster management decisions that are deeper than what many probably assume.

While Beau Atkinson and Terry Moore would be listed as “misses”, Devin McCuin, Christian Alliegro, Earl Little would be listed as hits….how much credit or blame goes to Pantoni??

I believe Pantoni is one of best in business at relationships….i don’t think he’s lost his fastball on that. Who he’s asked to target has changed a lot. Maybe his role needs to change a bit but like many others, I think he has earned the right to course correct and have at least another year or two.
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Are Alliegro, McQuin and Little Jr. really hits though? They’re fine but none of them have been players where if you take them off the field it’s debilitating. Alliegro and Little Jr were also starters for major college football programs.

With that said, I think he was directed to get older players. Nearly all of the players were old. I’m not saying he should go but whatever parameters he was given didn’t pan out either. To me he’s just struggled finding dudes when they aren’t obvious.
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College Football Playoffs Discussion (12/16/24 Team Format)

Jaxbuck
Here is a thought:

This year with the smaller field- our season is cooked and the best player in the sport could reasonably tap out with 3 games to go.

Next year we'd still be in the playoff picture and that scenario becomes highly unlikely

It's not all bad, it not all good, it will just be different
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Name, Image, & Likeness (NIL) at tOSU

Jaxbuck
pnuts34 said:
Login to view embedded media https://lecharlesbentley.substack.c...&shareImageVariant=overlay&triedRedirect=true

This article can be applied to all of the blue bloods in CFB, well written by LeCharles Bentley
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He's not saying anything people haven't already touched on but it's good to hear it from someone with his insight/access.

The interesting thing to me is this: he touches on it in his TEAM comments- well, the business world (all organizations really) already know there are many tests to give you insight into how a person ticks and how they will interact (the goal being to find the 5 best people to achieve a result- not the 5 most talented individuals).

To amplify LeChuck's point- How does any of that work with teenagers? These are not fully formed frontal lobe having human beings. Add in the money and the distractions/competing forces.....? Yikes.

How are you going to differentiate beyond money? Seriously- I'd start with the Undefeated. Not run a whore house but in the broader sense of understanding the best way to get a young mans attention is (typically) the young woman and go from there.

Anyone who has ever raised their own teenager is just laughing at Ryan Day (and all coaches right now) thinking I wouldn't want your job for all the whiskey in Ireland. Good fucking luck pal.

Which gets back to the might be time to adjust expectations moving forward line of thinking.

You juggle all those chainsaws year after year- fans need to calm the fuck down about going undefeated and style points. It will very likely become a war of attrition and some ugly, ugly champions that are the last team standing.
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Mark Pantoni (Assistant Athletic Director, Player Personnel)

Jaxbuck
billmac91 said:
This is a tough one IMO……bc it isn’t just about identifying a talented player, it almost becomes “political” in a sense. In today’s NIL era, the perfect example is Bo Jackson. OSU actually had to fight to keep him on the team last year…..at one point they assumed he was gone. In that process, they were identifying elite RB’s to “recruit” in the portal. In a tough negotiation, they ended up opening the wallet a bit more than they originally intended and kept him. In that process, they also decided bringing in a “elite” RB portal would be a net negative to program and opted instead to go with Jakobi Jackson who was a depth piece intended not to rock the boat.

All that to say, it isn’t simply identifying talent and bringing it in…..there’s roster management decisions that are deeper than what many probably assume.

While Beau Atkinson and Terry Moore would be listed as “misses”, Devin McCuin, Christian Alliegro, Earl Little would be listed as hits….how much credit or blame goes to Pantoni??

I believe Pantoni is one of best in business at relationships….i don’t think he’s lost his fastball on that. Who he’s asked to target has changed a lot. Maybe his role needs to change a bit but like many others, I think he has earned the right to course correct and have at least another year or two.
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You could make the case that in this system of wide open talent acquisition, relationships is as important or maybe MORE important than raw talent eval.

If we ever get into a draft system then the pendulum swings to talent and character eval but right now, in the wild wild west? Give me the better salesman (so to speak)
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Mark Pantoni (Assistant Athletic Director, Player Personnel)

pnuts34
billmac91 said:
This is a tough one IMO……bc it isn’t just about identifying a talented player, it almost becomes “political” in a sense. In today’s NIL era, the perfect example is Bo Jackson. OSU actually had to fight to keep him on the team last year…..at one point they assumed he was gone. In that process, they were identifying elite RB’s to “recruit” in the portal. In a tough negotiation, they ended up opening the wallet a bit more than they originally intended and kept him. In that process, they also decided bringing in a “elite” RB portal would be a net negative to program and opted instead to go with Jakobi Jackson who was a depth piece intended not to rock the boat.

All that to say, it isn’t simply identifying talent and bringing it in…..there’s roster management decisions that are deeper than what many probably assume.

While Beau Atkinson and Terry Moore would be listed as “misses”, Devin McCuin, Christian Alliegro, Earl Little would be listed as hits….how much credit or blame goes to Pantoni??

I believe Pantoni is one of best in business at relationships….i don’t think he’s lost his fastball on that. Who he’s asked to target has changed a lot. Maybe his role needs to change a bit but like many others, I think he has earned the right to course correct and have at least another year or two.
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The landscape of CFB has changed and fans haven't been able to change with it yet. I posted an article from LeCharles Bentley's substack regarding this
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Cincinnati Reds (2026 Season Thread)

Jaxbuck
Here is a typical Doug Gray take on it- long winded, knows what he is talking about and slightly biased toward the Reds but not crazy homer.

I haven't read the whole thing but he knows his stuff (he uses slightly different numbers than I did).

www.redlegnation.com

Making the Rookie of the Year case for Reds infielder Sal Stewart - Redleg Nation

Cincinnati Reds infielder Sal Stewart led National League rookies with 32 homers and 112 RBI. Will that earn him the Rookie of the Year award?
www.redlegnation.com www.redlegnation.com
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Mark Pantoni (Assistant Athletic Director, Player Personnel)

billmac91
This is a tough one IMO……bc it isn’t just about identifying a talented player, it almost becomes “political” in a sense. In today’s NIL era, the perfect example is Bo Jackson. OSU actually had to fight to keep him on the team last year…..at one point they assumed he was gone. In that process, they were identifying elite RB’s to “recruit” in the portal. In a tough negotiation, they ended up opening the wallet a bit more than they originally intended and kept him. In that process, they also decided bringing in a “elite” RB portal would be a net negative to program and opted instead to go with Jakobi Jackson who was a depth piece intended not to rock the boat.

All that to say, it isn’t simply identifying talent and bringing it in…..there’s roster management decisions that are deeper than what many probably assume.

While Beau Atkinson and Terry Moore would be listed as “misses”, Devin McCuin, Christian Alliegro, Earl Little would be listed as hits….how much credit or blame goes to Pantoni??

I believe Pantoni is one of best in business at relationships….i don’t think he’s lost his fastball on that. Who he’s asked to target has changed a lot. Maybe his role needs to change a bit but like many others, I think he has earned the right to course correct and have at least another year or two.
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