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OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

I am certainly not "sympathetic" toward Barton. I don't know why you inferred that from my post.

When you wield the criminal law hammer, every societal problem begins to look like a nail. But if the problem ain't a nail, then it doesn't matter how hard you swing your hammer you're not going to solve the problem. But you stated that you view this problem emotionally (sympathy) so I guess that you're going to keep looking for bigger, better hammers and stronger arms to swing them. Good luck with that.
It wasn't a nail until he killed a kid. Now it's a nail that has to be hammered flat.
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OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

The longer the jail time, the longer he won’t be driving drunk and killing other people.
This is certainly something the court should consider. There are a lot of factors that going into sentencing, and I’m no expert on what they are. But with certain crimes and/or repeat offenders, at some point it becomes less about punishment or deterrence, and more about protecting society from a dangerous person who won’t or can't stop behaving badly.
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OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

I don‘t accept that “all society is left with is retribution against a sick person”.

Jail time can certainly prevent him doing the same thing and killing or severely injuring somebody else during the next several years.

It is also possible that long sentences are a deterrent to some other potential drunk drivers, thus reducing the number of these tragedies.

I am far more sympathetic towards the family of the deceased young man than the addicted person that recklessly killed him. But I’m not trying to imply that anybody else isn’t also sympathetic to that family.
I am certainly not "sympathetic" toward Barton. I don't know why you inferred that from my post.

When you wield the criminal law hammer, every societal problem begins to look like a nail. But if the problem ain't a nail, then it doesn't matter how hard you swing your hammer you're not going to solve the problem. But you stated that you view this problem emotionally (sympathy) so I guess that you're going to keep looking for bigger, better hammers and stronger arms to swing them. Good luck with that.
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OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

Some can, some can’t. Some kill for drug money. Some do incredibly reckless shit under the influence like this. Some recover.

There is no stat that I am aware that tells us what “most” addicts are like. It’s an extremely individual experience.
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I'm a jackass on here, and in life a lot of times, but I use my graduate degrees and experiences working with veterans everyday and this post encompasses almost every one of their lives, and mine for that matter.

For some people they can't see what they have, only what they don't have or lost, and that shit drives them to do the most wreckless shit you can imagine and it's not easy to understand outside of it.

Kirk is fucked for sure in more ways than one but someone is gone and there's no way to make up for it, ever.

And I'm done with this thread it's making me emotional. Pray for peace in all their lives and your own.
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OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

Stop it. He needs to go away for a while but it was obviously a mistake. Literally the biggest mistake someone can make that leads to taking a life.

Barton always needed to get sober that was always the thing with him. I’d imagine 10-15 years is likely in order which should sober him up.

I can’t imagine what any of these people involved are dealing with right now. Someone lost a loved one and the other family loses a husband and father for a very long time.

This isn’t a life in jail kind of mistake though. This was stupidity and it cost someone their life.
Taking a life, no matter how, why or where it happens, it's not something that ever leaves a person. Kirk, I pray, faces his demons and wins his battle eventually. But he's going to suffer like that family is for a long while.
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OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

I sort of understand if youre young and you just make an idiotic decision, but if you're an adult and with all the ride options you have today, it's just ridiculous
I will be the first to admit that I've been wrong more than once as an adult. I've crossed the half century line and I can honestly say I don't understanding how you get that drunk, drive drunk, abs dive fast af drunk like that?!?

The few times, before Uber, I did it wrong, I was kinda scared as shit to get pulled over and drove like I was taking my driver's test! Damn shame this happened in today's age of technology. Stay home people!!
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Cincinnati Reds (2025 is our year! Haha thats actually funny)

Welcome back Matty. Sure did miss you.

If he's really back then we have the best up the middle team in baseball. @Jaxbuck been saying it so maybe we get Espinal to go full time at 3rd and keep Steer on the come up and we might be in business. Just need the corner outfield to get right. Where have we heard that before?

Also if Marte comes back up playing like be was before the injury he's at 3rd full time in my book. CES is on notice on my opinion and Benson can rake but his Defense is brutally give and take like Fraley. Need them to catch fire after the All Star break.

What am I missing?

Bullpen needs a couple of high leverage arms at the back end of it. I have said for a long time now that I'd like to convert Lodolo to that role if SP depth allows.

The up the middle lineup is as good as any in baseball if MM is back healthy and producing.

Corners and DH are so woefully fucked though I don't think you have enough depth in the minors to trade from to fill them..

It's like we have been saying for 2 years now, either Marte and CES join the party as 2 WAR solid players or better to fill in around the rest or you never really had a window anyway.

LF, RF and DH are still a wasteland even if those two get right. That's a lot of holes in the lineup.

Nothing they can do but innovative trades around the edges of the roster like Lux and sit back and wait for pipeline kids to develop (or not).

Is what it is in the modern game of MLB
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