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OL Kirk Barton (Don't tase me Bro!)

"misunderstanding. 2. : a wrong action or statement proceeding from faulty judgment, inadequate knowledge, or inattention."


No, Bartons actions are not even close to dictionary definition.

He did not make a mistake in driving to a location. He did not make a mistake in getting belligerently hammered. He did not make a mistake getting behind the wheel. He did not make a mistake driving 100+mph.



These were all actions done with intention, knowing full well the potential consequences. There is no error or fault in judgement from a lack of knowledge. This is the end result of a near lifetime of action with minimum to no defintive consequences.

Three dui's. Three. This was a matter of mathematical eventuality. As Steve said above, prison is not punitive. Had Barton been in prison for his crimes, the other party would still be alive.


I've grown up with addiction on both sides *of* both sides of my family. I've buried several family and friends over it's self destructive nature. One that also can invite violence towards those that are in proximity to the addict.

I have and will always maintain this - your addiction gives you no right, excuse, justification or other to inflict physical and mental harm on anyone else beyond yourself. Most especially the former. Once you cross that line, as Kirk has done, the fabric of your life is at the mercy of those who would either take pity or deem it worthy to spare you.



Drunk driving and killing someone is one of the most ultimate selfishnesses I can think of. You had such little regard for the lives of others, what logic does it follow that others should regard yours?
Rhetorical, that last bit. I'm just making my closing point.

Good on you for finding sobriety and bless your journey and continued strength. Unfortunately, Kirks weakness has cost the life of another.
What are you talking about, he took wrongful action due to faulty judgement. We all know it was a mistake.

Two things can be true. It was a mistake but also it should’ve never happened because like you point out this is the third time.

I agree with all of you guys. Just I do think of the Barton’s too. Just a ton of casualties all the way around (none more so than the young man who lost his life)
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2025 scUM Shenanigans, Arguments, etc.

What's stunning is that he managed to fuck it up so quickly. I thought the wealth and momentum of the place combined with an adoring press and hands off statehouse would allow him to coast and tweet for a good run.
So... there's a show on Netflix called "Orange is the New Black." If you haven't seen it, meh... I'm not endorsing it. But, spoiler alert, all the prisoners are shown to be good guys and all the guards are corrupt. Even the guy who becomes warden, he's kinda a good guy, but his first day on the job, he feels forced to sweep something under the rug.
The fact that he "fucked it up so quickly" is more a product of the fact that the opportunity was presented quickly, not that he was looking for something stupid to do.
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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

This is like the LeBron debate. Getting a bunch of numbers because you got a lot of years in doesn't automatically mean "best".
Damn. I don't want to defend those nerds, but the debate with Paterno isn't about "best". I mean, I'm sure they'd insist that he was "best", but the actual topic is whether 409 wins is "beatable". 409 wins is 41 seasons of 10 wins per season. Or just over 34 seasons of 12 wins per season. By comparison, in 17 years under Nick Saban, Alabama averaged 12.12 wins per season. So 409 may just be unbeatable. 12-win seasons are probably going to be more achievable with the expanded playoffs, but a team that is consistently going to win 12 games probably isn't going to hire someone young enough to coach another 34 seasons.
That said, Ryan Day is 46 years old, and has 70 wins. He needs 28.25 seasons with 12 wins per season to get to 409. Will he coach to 74?
Anyway, I'm just happy that the cult still gets pissy over lists like these.
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