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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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To simplify, this all comes down to whether the Tat 5 violations and Tressel's 10.1 violation are the substance of the shenanigans. Right now, given what has been fed to us by the the media, those things are the only known things. The rest is rumor, allegation, speculation, etc. The car issue has been put to bed to my satisfaction.

The violater of 10.1 is no longer employed by the universtity. The Tat 5 thing has already been adjudicated by the NCAA. The player who is rumored among the Tat 5 to have benefitted the most from violating NCAA rules is gone. So, as long as there are no more bombshells coming, the sanctions could be much lighter than Buckeye lovers feared and Buckeye haters had hoped for.
 
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I had a long conversation with one of the Sugar Bowl Committee guys last night. He told me that Tressel's speech at the recent Sugar Bowel banquet was the most impressive one he had ever seen by any coach of any program, and he thought that the OSU staff was the best group of guys that he had encountered at that function. He mentioned the fact that JT introduced every assistant, and every one of their wives, and that he had a personal story about them all. Said it was a very impressive and effective talk, giving off a "family" vibe, and that my buddy was sad to see the outcome.

Thought I'd share that, FWIW.
 
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Gatorubet;1943632; said:
I had a long conversation with one of the Sugar Bowl Committee guys last night. He told me that Tressel's speech at the recent Sugar Bowel banquet was the most impressive one he had ever seen by any coach of any program, and he thought that the OSU staff was the best group of guys that he had encountered at that function. He mentioned the fact that JT introduced every assistant, and every one of their wives, and that he had a personal story about them all. Said it was a very impressive and effective talk, giving off a "family" vibe, and that he - my buddy - was literally stunned by the recent revelations, given the opinion he had formed - and sad to see the outcome.

Thought I'd share that, FWIW.
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my question would be.....stunned by what exactly? That he protected his players from a really dumb mistake that would have had them crucified in Columbus??
 
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billmac91;1943634; said:
my question would be.....stunned by what exactly? That he protected his players from a really dumb mistake that would have had them crucified in Columbus??
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He didn't protect them at all. All of this came out in the wash andwas always destined to. Meanwhile, the unfortunate decision caused his own early exit.
 
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matcar;1943636; said:
He didn't protect them at all. All of this came out in the wash andwas always destined to. Meanwhile, the unfortunate decision caused his own early exit.
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In hindsight, I'm sure he would have brought the issues forward. But the scrutiny those kids would have received in Columbus if Tressel turns them in at the time of the transgressions (and we're talking about kids trading awards for tattoos) would have been life altering and brutal.

The punishment would not have fit the crime. And I'm talking about the public beating nationally and in Columbus. So he protected his players.

It was probably a mistake, but I'd be curious to hear his personal thoughts on the situation after everything that has occurred since.
 
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billmac91;1943640; said:
In hindsight, I'm sure he would have brought the issues forward. But the scrutiny those kids would have received in Columbus if Tressel turns them in at the time of the transgressions (and we're talking about kids trading awards for tattoos) would have been life altering and brutal.

The punishment would not have fit the crime. And I'm talking about the public beating nationally and in Columbus. So he protected his players.

It was probably a mistake, but I'd be curious to hear his personal thoughts on the situation after everything that has occurred since.
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I don't think punishing the program for a couple years is worth protecting a handful of kids who decided to break rules. It is a mistake. No probably about it.

Obviously just my opinion. But I can't buy the "protecting the players" angle. They were going to get hammered in the media regardless.
 
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10tv refuses to get off tOSU's nuts...aker with more hard hitting reporting

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/te...s-ohio-state-closed-door-meeting.html?sid=102

Some of the most powerful people tied to The Ohio State University met behind closed doors on Wednesday, but they refused to reveal any details about what matters were being discussed. About 12 of the 18 members of the university's board of trustees were present, along with Ohio State president Gordon Gee and athletic director Gene Smith, 10 Investigates' Paul Aker reported.
It was not clear if the discussion involved NCAA compliance issues with the university's athletic department.
Smith and Gee refused to answer questions about the meeting, although Gee called the meeting a "strategy session" and said the closed-door format was done by the book, Aker reported.
The meeting appeared to be a possible violation of Ohio's opening meetings law, as the law generally requires meetings to be held in public when such a meeting involves a majority of the board members who are discussing state business, Aker reported.
An attorney for 10TV requested that all records from the meeting be preserved.
The university said it sent the request to its attorney, Aker reported.
The board was expected to meet again on Thursday.
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I don't think punishing the program for a couple years is worth protecting a handful of kids who decided to break rules. It is a mistake. No probably about it.

Obviously just my opinion. But I can't buy the "protecting the players" angle. They were going to get hammered in the media regardless.
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Not if it never came to light. I think Tress thought there was a pretty good chance this never made it to the public....

I'm just more or less sick of hearing Ohio State be compared to SMU. I've heard it for the last 3 months as pundits trash the university for every new revelation that hits the front pages.

And at the end of the day, nothing has turned out to be true....other than the initial reports of trading awards for tats and cash.

I'm in Charlotte now, and local radio is saying what happened at Ohio State is far worse than UNC. It's infuriating as they take reports of free cars and pay for play schemes as gospel when most has been refuted.

Yet UNC has a tutor who has admitted to writing reports, paying parking tickets, and had an assistant coach who was considered an NFL agent.

It's bullshit.
 
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billmac91;1943654; said:
Not if it never came to light. I think Tress thought there was a pretty good chance this never made it to the public....

I'm just more or less sick of hearing Ohio State be compared to SMU. I've heard it for the last 3 months as pundits trash the university for every new revelation that hits the front pages.

And at the end of the day, nothing has turned out to be true....other than the initial reports of trading awards for tats and cash.

I'm in Charlotte now, and local radio is saying what happened at Ohio State is far worse than UNC. It's infuriating as they take reports of free cars and pay for play schemes as gospel when most has been refuted.

Yet UNC has a tutor who has admitted to writing reports, paying parking tickets, and had an assistant coach who was considered an NFL agent.

It's bullshit.
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Eh, who cares. UNC is and always will be irrelevent on the gridiron. Even Butch Davis and apparently said tutors keeping players eligible can't manage to make them a blip on the national radar.
 
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billmac91;1943654; said:
Yet UNC has a tutor who has admitted to writing reports, paying parking tickets.
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Maybe the tutor protected her players from really dumb mistakes that would have had them crucified in Columbia had they become ineligible...



FIFM :paranoid:
 
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