Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[MaliBuckeye]

EDIT: I mean, I'm sure it happens, but SI shouldn't need to pay anyone to get them to talk to them.

Pure hearsay, but I believe several former players/parents stated that they were offered reimbursement for their willingness to go on the record. Of course, it could just be that they were offering compensation for their time away from work and so forth.

 

[3074326]

Pure hearsay, but I believe several former players/parents stated that they were offered reimbursement for their willingness to go on the record. Of course, it could just be that they were offering compensation for their time away from work and so forth.

Wouldn't surprise me. I just have a journalism degree and wrote for The Lantern. I don't know the ins and outs of journalism as a business.

 

[ysubuck]

Pure hearsay, but I believe several former players/parents stated that they were offered reimbursement for their willingness to go on the record. Of course, it could just be that they were offering compensation for their time away from work and so forth.

Man, I am really going to miss Coach Tressel.:(

 

[TGC OSU'62]

I don't know or care how to spell the SI writer's name. Geehruman?

The SI hatchet-job author is GEORGE DOHRMANN, a Pulitzer Prize winner with a book on amateur hoops recruits. Here is a review of his book found on Amazon:

Good story, bad reading.(Audio Book Review), April 25, 2011

"The book (Play Their Hearts Out) is interesting and insightful. All the other reviews cover this accurately. The only addition is that one has to conclude that the author is as much a problem as the people he is writing about. He is a willing participant here, and is as culpable as the other adults he is criticizing. The writer is participating in all the abuses so that he can sell a book. I in turn now feel scummy having bought the book and putting money in his pocket. From the outset the writer knows that his reporting is more likely to increase the problem he claims to find disturbing. He did a SI story on this same subject matter and he had first hand knowledge that his SI story actually helped some of the unscrupulous adults portrayed in the book. AS well, he allowed his name and business card be used to recruit some of the young players he is writing about."

(posted on Buckeyextra today by Buckeye in Raleigh.)

 

[MaliBuckeye]

Man, I am really going to miss Coach Tressel.:(

Indeed. My usual "go to" was "and whatnot...", but Tress changed that for me.

I didn't even realize it until my wife pointed it out.

:(

 

[Dryden]

Anyone else remember a quote from pulitzer saying something like "I just want this to all be over with" a day or two after the article came out?

I'm guessing Dohrmann has by now figured out that the backlash of an expose on Minnesota basketball is a bit different than what happens when you poke Ohio State football with a stick.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I'm guessing Dohrmann has by now figured out that the backlash of an expose on Minnesota basketball is a bit different than what happens when you poke Ohio State football with a stick.

If I can verify that he actually said that...

I'm thinking it was more of a "this story doesn't have any legs, and putting my name on it as a Pulitzer winner will give it credibility it shouldn't have, and is going to suck, for tOSU and me" kinda thing.

Crazy how a week before it came out, there were rumblings there may not be a story. Wondering if Dohrmann said he didn't have a fuckin' story, and SI said "we don't give a shit, write what you have".

Pure speculation, of course.

 

[NateG]

BACKDohrmann is your classic NoD grad that always wished he was a Buckeye and realized that The Irish would never match up. So he did what he could at the times he could, piece together negative bits against the Head of the team he learned to despise due to jealousy. I'm sure when you just graduated and expect your team to wail on the Bucks and get beatdown in back to back years that hate gets its' launchpad. It just took him the 5-7 years to get to be legitimate and then the next 8-9 to get enough story together to take an air filled swat at the Bucks. Did he find dirt?? ... I'm sure some is true. But the more that comes out it feels more and more fabricated to bash a program that has wiped it's ass with his for years.

 

[MObuckeye13]

Anyone else remember a quote from pulitzer saying something like "I just want this to all be over with" a day or two after the article came out?[/QUOT
Maybe he shouldve thought about the backlash before he wrote the article

 

[Gatorubet]

Do you know anything about the pay for a story question? Is it common practice to pay sources for info like a poster above asked? I would think not

I have little respect for most journalists from my personal experience. There are far more interested in deadlines and headlines and not having to work for a story if they can get something handed to them that will result in readership interest.

No offense numby.

And I used to differentiate the local, smaller press from the giants of print journalism, but now the demarcation line is less clear. I would think paying for the story would in and of itself be a form of bias. I mean, paying for tips is one thing, for a right to interview someone - that is something altogether different.

 

[utgrad73]

I have little respect for most journalists from my personal experience. There are far more interested in deadlines and headlines and not having to work for a story if they can get something handed to them that will result in readership interest.

No offense numby.

And I used to differentiate the local, smaller press from the giants of print journalism, but now the demarcation line is less clear. I would think paying for the story would in and of itself be a form of bias. I mean, paying for tips is one thing, for a right to interview someone - that is something altogether different.

OK, let's see I gave you $200 for that little interview and information. This is what I want you to say.

Wouldin't the interviewee feel compelled to answer some very pointed questions in a manner that would "earn" that money.

 

[Gatorubet]

OK, let's see I gave you $200 for that little interview and information. This is what I want you to say.

Wouldin't the interviewee feel compelled to answer some very pointed questions in a manner that would "earn" that money.

I'm not disagreeing with you there.

 

[Gatorubet]

1980 ($4.1 million)
1981 ($5.57 million)
1982 ($7.24 million)
1983 ($9.53 million)
1984 ($18.4 million)
1985 ($9.34 million)
1986 ($13.1 million)
1987 ($13.56 million)
1988 ($14.34 million)
1989 ($13.85 million)
1990 ($16.3 million)
1991 ($20.6 million)
1992 ($27.7 million)
1993 ($34.34 million)
1994 ($34.36 million)
1995 ($40.3 million)
1996 ($45.5 million)
1997 ($58.9 million)
1998 ($61.2 million)
1999 ($68.5 million)
2000 ($73.2 million)
2001 ($78.1 million)
2002 ($95.7 million)
2003 ($101.9 million)
2004 ($108.8 million)
2005 ($110.7 million)
2006 ($116.1 million)
2007 ($122.0 million)
2008 ($127.6 million)
2009 ($132.5 million)
2010 ($209.0 million)
2011 ($220.0 million)

The SEC split up our tv money today (excluding bowl $$)

Here is the last 30 years breakdown. Is there any doubt what drives modern college football? The pressure to win just gets amped up every year. What Florida gets this year is more than the whole conference made in 1990.

 

[NateG]

1980 ($4.1 million)
1981 ($5.57 million)
1982 ($7.24 million)
1983 ($9.53 million)
1984 ($18.4 million)
1985 ($9.34 million)
1986 ($13.1 million)
1987 ($13.56 million)
1988 ($14.34 million)
1989 ($13.85 million)
1990 ($16.3 million)
1991 ($20.6 million)
1992 ($27.7 million)
1993 ($34.34 million)
1994 ($34.36 million)
1995 ($40.3 million)
1996 ($45.5 million)
1997 ($58.9 million)
1998 ($61.2 million)
1999 ($68.5 million)
2000 ($73.2 million)
2001 ($78.1 million)
2002 ($95.7 million)
2003 ($101.9 million)
2004 ($108.8 million)
2005 ($110.7 million)
2006 ($116.1 million)
2007 ($122.0 million)
2008 ($127.6 million)
2009 ($132.5 million)
2010 ($209.0 million)
2011 ($220.0 million)

The SEC split up our tv money today (excluding bowl $$)

Here is the last 30 years breakdown. Is there any doubt what drives modern college football? The pressure to win just gets amped up every year. What Florida gets this year is more than the whole conference made in 1990.

What a jump in the years since UF's win with Urban. More of a jump there than the jump from 1980 til then. I'm sure ESPN knows that and has their hands in the mix in the pools next to that money too.

 

[Wingate1217]

Finally:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6621030

looks like the old spell check doesn't work....very professional...

Of course, it's buried on the college football page which seems, to say the least, a bit odd, considering how front-and-center the allegations have been on the espn home page.

Jason Klein said he will hire an attorney and plans to take action against Sports Illustraed, which published a story that cited an anonymous tattoo shop employee as identifying Storm as one of at least nine active players alleged to have made such trades.