Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[Merih]

Widening indeed.

Love it, as quick as America turns on a big program, they always turn even quicker on an overzealous and damn right douchebaggy media (the "enough is enough" sydrome).

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Great news. Still waiting to hear some mention of this, the Klein story or the Simon story from yahoo, espn, SI, mgoblog, etc.

Who gives a fuck what mgoblow says....really who gives a fuck what michigan fans think...some are actually out there parading that they've been losing to Ohio State because athletes got tattoo's for gear...while failing to realize they just have sucked...they have been getting beat by lots of teams

 

[utgrad73]

Love it, as quick as America turns on a big program, they always turn even quicker on an overzealous and damn right douchebaggy media (the "enough is enough" sydrome).

And that's precisely why I'll fail in my effort to abandon the scorn industry, and almost certainly heap scorn on someone soon: Because I'm human, and humans are all too human. Soon then -- and against my best intentions -- I'll work myself into a self-righteous lather over something unworthy of genuine contempt. I will then apply that lather to the scandalous scalp of some nickel-and-dime athlete newly busted for some Mickey Mouse misdeed.
I'll feel a brief buzz of moral superiority, followed by an extended period of shame and hypocrisy. That's how the news cycle seems to work: Lather, rinse, repeat.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/steve_rushin/06/01/scorn/index.html#ixzz1OH04rK2Z

This writer at SI has it right.

 

[EDDIE GGGG27]

In the video at that link, Joe Schad mentions that TP's Nissan, acquired in the last 10 days, was a 2007 with 80,000 miles on it, but says that his mother bought it for around $11,000. You're getting closer to the full story Joe - now if you'd only mention that the trade-in of TP's Dodge, valued at over $7,000, was also part of that deal, you'll actually be portraying the transaction in a fair and complete manner!

Joe Schad turned down a party invite from Elton John and Clay Aiken because the environment wouldnt be Gay enough for him.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

Joe Schad turned down a party invite from Elton John and Clay Aiken because the environment wouldnt be Gay enough for him.

Joe Schad goes to furrie conventions with this guy

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I don't care, not one bit. Our team is being dragged through the mud because some of our problems have already been proven and agreed upon by our administration. Not so with other offenders. Again, the SEC Cheaters line is silly now, because we've proven willing/capable of doing so as well.

whatever. one day a house is going to fall on the wicked witch and color will be introduced to your world. until then, enjoy the black and white.

 

[LitlBuck]

The part of the article below that I do not understand is the fact that James was appointed as an attorney to represent the players in the Sports Illustrated article. I did not realize that the NCAA supplied attorneys for players who were charged with NCAA violations. Also, in reading other articles, this attorney also represents Pryor which confuses me because this article only is talking about the other 9 players who were mentioned in SI and not the original 5 players.

Columbus Dispatch

An attorney who represented nine Ohio State football players during interviews with the NCAA this week offered an upbeat summation for fans fearing that more Buckeyes could be facing suspensions.
"I would say the proceedings do not cause me any angst at this point," attorney Larry James said.

Nine players were named in a Sports Illustrated article this week that attempted to show a pattern of rule-breaking under former coach Jim Tressel. It stated that the players, like the six teammates suspended for up to five games next season, had exchanged memorabilia for cash and/or discounted tattoos.

Doing so is a violation of NCAA rules.

"There is no scintilla of evidence related to 90 percent of those kids listed in the Sports Illustrated article that they did anything wrong," James said. "That's the way it's going to turn out, I believe. It's just irresponsible reporting."

Tressel, who resigned Monday under mounting pressure, acknowledged in March that he withheld information about the transactions from his superiors and then kept it to himself during an investigation of the six players. When the Sports Illustrated article named the nine other current players, NCAA investigators returned.

Per NCAA guidelines, James was provided as an attorney for the new players. In gathering background for their hearings, he said he made them bring in personal awards such as the gold pants charms earned for wins over Michigan, Big Ten championship rings and such. He then photographed each item.

"For all nine, if there are 50 pieces at issue, we have 48 of them," James said. "There might be a misplaced necklace or something, but they're pretty much all there."

When reminded that players could have traded other things, such as autographed jerseys, James said he was confident that the nine had done no such thing.

The NCAA, of course, will make the final call.

One of the players named was linebacker Storm Klein. His father defended him in the Newark Advocate and indicated that he might sue Sports Illustrated.

"I can't speak for anybody else," Jason Klein said. "I just know what my son has done and know my son. His name has been smeared, but I'm very confident he'll come out of it without (any penalty) because he's done nothing."

According to Jason Klein, Storm does not have any tattoos.

 

[BearBuck27]

Sorry if this has been posted guys. I'm about to head out the door and I haven't seen it posted yet.

The owner of the first tattoo shop denies many of the claims.

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/te...all-tattoo-owner-dispute-article.html?sid=102

What may have happened inside a now-boarded up tattoo shop on West Broad Street could cause more trouble for the Ohio State football program, but the owner of the business told 10 Investigates on Friday that there is little truth to many of the allegations that have surfaced. A Sports Illustrated article published earlier this week linked members of the Ohio State football team to a scandal at Dudley'z Tattoos & Body Piercing. The magazine reported that football players had streamed into the place for years, allegedly trading memorabilia for tattoos and using a back room to smoke marijuana.


Cont...

 

[TresselstillownsTSUN]

The thing that really pisses me off about all this, is how other fanbases now act as if we cheated in every aspect. As in we cheated to get recruits, cheated on the field, in the classroom, etc. The facts are we aren't charged with anything remotly close to that. If fact alot of people don't realize that if the NCAA doesn't change the charges, then what we face ain't that bad IMO. Well atleast, not USC bad....

 

[BB73]

The part of the article below that I do not understand is the fact that James was appointed as an attorney to represent the players in the Sports Illustrated article. I did not realize that the NCAA supplied attorneys for players who were charged with NCAA violations. Also, in reading other articles, this attorney also represents Pryor which confuses me because this article only is talking about the other 9 players who were mentioned in SI and not the original 5 players.

Columbus Dispatch

It said that per NCAA guidelines, the attorneys were provided. I'm fairly sure that means that it's OK with the NCAA for tOSU to pay for the attorneys, not that the NCAA would pay for them.

 

[LitlBuck]

Part 2 of Andy Geiger's take on JT's resignation

Ozone (is the football program bigger than they compliance department)

The events of the last three or so months have left Ohio State fans all too familiar with terms like "lack of institutional control" and have made media stars of administrators that really ought to be anonymous, specifically director of NCAA compliance Doug Archie and his staff.

The sudden interest in those terms and persons was precipitated by the NCAA violations scandal that has rocked the football program, cost former Head Coach Jim Tressel his job, and left many more unanswered questions regarding the future of OSU football.

Public interest is focused on the short-term outcome, but there is growing interest in what might have been done to prevent all this in the first place and prevent it from happening in the future. According to former OSU Director of Athletics Andy Geiger, that is a difficult and sticky question at every university, and especially in Columbus, Ohio.
"The setup that we had (when he was director of athletics) was extremely proactive," Geiger said.

"It's my understanding that the current compliance people went to the car dealers, they are all over those kinds of things, they were doing their best to try to keep up with it, but there is, in Columbus, a very large community with a nationally prominent program, the Ohio State football program, that is just over the top in importance, in not only Columbus but in the state.

"That attracts all kinds of things to it, some of which is very, very difficult to control.

"There isn't any way that a compliance department, an Athletic Director or a football coach or whole staff of football coaches can be with people in a program 24/7. There are going to be influences, there are going to be relationships that built over time that can turn out to be negative and be very damaging. I experienced that, and it has been experienced one more time."

Geiger's first-hand experience with the impact of outside influences on the OSU football program have lead him to the conclusion that controlling the program is a nearly hopeless task unless you have the full and unmitigated cooperation of players who comprise that program. There is simply too much money involved, and too many people trying to dip their hands into it. In the end, some of those people influence players in ways to help in their attempts to cash in on OSU football, and in the process involve the players in cashing in as well. For example, without a place to sell signed items, no signed items would be sold. Too often, the fact that the way to make money is already established is too much to resist for some players.

"It is your hope and prayer in a situation like this that the guys 'get it' and that they are patient about the fact that there is a lot of wealth connected the program, there is a big-money situation, and they are not necessarily reaping very much of it at this point.

Continued

 

[Gatorubet]

"There isn't any way that a compliance department, an Athletic Director or a football coach or whole staff of football coaches can be with people in a program 24/7. There are going to be influences, there are going to be relationships that built over time that can turn out to be negative and be very damaging. I experienced that, and it has been experienced one more time."

This. There is very little difference between the programs when it comes to the chance that a kid might take something from the army of jock sniffers, alums, star struck fans who make up our fan bases. I do not buy into the argument that tOSU is a "dirty " program because of the allegations everyone is making, even if some of them turn out to be true. A large part of not being sanctioned is not having the NCAA looking at you. When you had the March presser and its revelations you brought the eye of Mordor's gaze upon you. When you did not immediately launch Tressel, and the press became a pack of wolves looking at every interaction, you increased the odds you would be punished. Not because you guys are that bad, but because looking for S&G sins became the favored past time of the press, and if you look long enough at enough stuff you will eventually find somebody who wants to give an athlete more than they should, and a kid who will take it.

 

[CHU]

More welcome to Ohio State Buckeye alumni/fans: Tom Friend or George Dohrmann?

What happened to Tom Friend after his various stories? Weren't they debunked and didn't it hurt his reputation (if he had one)? Will the same thing happen to Dohrmann?

I don't read ESPN the Magazine (so don't know about Friend).

 

[bassbuckeye07]

More welcome to Ohio State Buckeye alumni/fans: Tom Friend or George Dohrmann?

What happened to Tom Friend after his various stories? Weren't they debunked and didn't it hurt his reputation (if he had one)? Will the same thing happen to Dohrmann?

I don't read ESPN the Magazine (so don't know about Friend).

Tom Friend hangs out in truck stops playing footsy under bathroom stalls

 

[CHU]

Tom Friend hangs out in truck stops playing footsy under bathroom stalls

I thought it was airports.