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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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jwinslow;1928199; said:
I lived an hour from Chicago and spent plenty of time there during his final three-peat. The bolded part is quite false.

Most people knew Jordan was a jerk on and off the court but swooned at his greatness. There may have been some in Chicago who were turned off by that, but there were still droves and droves of adoring fans.

Many fans knew that Pryor was a headcase when he got here. That didn't stop the adoration for most.
Because it's a blend of many other colleges, which is why this comparison doesn't work. It's like praising the diversity of sports viewpoints in Atlanta.Actually, the vitriol towards Mr. Cutler speaks precisely to their obsession with sports. It's just your flavor of obsession, and so it isn't "hickish" in your mind.

OSU booed their class-act backup QB off the field during a scrimmage, sent hate letters to many players, and spend most seasons cursing Jim Tressel for his playcalling.

Sure there are differences, but both towns are obsessed with sports in ways that other towns would find crazy and wasteful.
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Steve Bartman knows the Chicago sports climate very well
 
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BUCKYLE;1928201; said:
The "meanest man in Chicago" could've had his dick sucked by half the DUDES in the United Center on a given night during the six 'ship runs. :lol:

Wait..you're telling me local radio said shit to inflame?!! I don't care if they get the death penalty now.
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I attended some of those games, and the only meat going in my mouth was some toppings within a slice of the best fucking pizza in the world!




And no, it wasn't deep dick pizza.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1928197; said:
Jordan the "image" outside of Chicago is not the same as how Jordan "the man" is viewed in the city. There are still sports radio guys who refer to his first retirement as his "gambling suspension."

Somebody in San Francisco--or Peking--buying Air Jordans does not disprove my point. It just proves the power of Nike's and Weiden+Kennedy's marketing to transform such an utterly unlikeable human being (trust me; he won a "meanest man in Chicago poll in Chicago Magazine) into a global icon.
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Derrick Rose, Dwayne Wade and a few others disagree. I know all about Jordan. As an avid Bulls fan from the early 80s, it was more common knowledge that he had gambling issues than only in Chicago, and that he was very unapproachable in certain mediums, as other athletes are (including Peyton Manning... from a photographer friend of mine based in Chicao who has photo'd both Jordan, Manning, and other big stars like Ripken, who was the polar opposite). The Jordan Statue doesn't get spit on or trashed all the time. I visit there often and he was all that 60-70 percent of the population had to look towards for years(86-98). Maybe now that the Blackhawks won and Rose is upcoming that will fade.
 
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jwinslow;1928199; said:
I lived an hour from Chicago and spent plenty of time there during his final three-peat. The bolded part is quite false.

Most people knew Jordan was a jerk on and off the court but swooned at his greatness. There may have been some in Chicago who were turned off by that, but there were still droves and droves of adoring fans.
Because it's a blend of many other colleges, which is why this comparison doesn't work. It's like praising the diversity of sports viewpoints in Atlanta.Actually, the vitriol towards Mr. Cutler speaks precisely to their obsession with sports. It's just your flavor of obsession, and so it isn't "hickish" in your mind.

OSU booed their class-act backup QB off the field during a scrimmage, sent hate letters to many players, and spend most seasons cursing Jim Tressel for his playcalling.

Sure there are differences, but both towns are obsessed with sports in ways that other towns would find crazy and wasteful.
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There's really nothing that I disagree with. My point is one of context. For every person swooning over Jordan in the mid 90s there was an equal component of those who just didn't care. I don't see that component as anywhere nearly as prominent in Columbus.

When I lived in German Village, I got to the know the guys who owned one of the better restaurants there pretty well, and they always mentioned how they almost found themselves in the position of wanting Ohio State to have a crappy season so that people would worry about other things. They would also mention how Kent Rigsby was the only restaurant in town who could "get away" with not having a television.

I was out at two restaurants last night during a Bulls playoff game, and neither had a television, both were crowded and nobody seemed to even be aware that the game was going on. Now, I'm sure that there were bars packed with people watching the game also. My point is that nothing--the Bears come closest--in Chicago approaches the almost single-minded obsession that Columbus has towards Ohio State football.

That in and of itself is not a bad thing, I guess. My use of "hick' might be considered unfortunate. My underlying point, however, that maybe if Columbus brought a little bit of perspective to things and started acting like a grown up city, tattoo artists and car dealers might not be fawning all over these kids and leading them into breaking NCAA rules. Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know, but it sure as hell couldn't hurt.
 
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NateG;1928218; said:
Bulls weren't playing last night..... They play in the United Center tonight and I bet that it will be sold out and bars with tvs will be fully loaded.
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Tuesday. Sorry, it's been a long week. Carnival Season is coming up, and I've been tasked with forging the safety inspection certificates for the kiddie rides. It's a big jump up in responsibility.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1928213; said:
There's really nothing that I disagree with. My point is one of context. For every person swooning over Jordan in the mid 90s there was an equal component of those who just didn't care. I don't see that component as anywhere nearly as prominent in Columbus.

When I lived in German Village, I got to the know the guys who owned one of the better restaurants there pretty well, and they always mentioned how they almost found themselves in the position of wanting Ohio State to have a crappy season so that people would worry about other things. They would also mention how Kent Rigsby was the only restaurant in town who could "get away" with not having a television.

I was out at two restaurants last night during a Bulls playoff game, and neither had a television, both were crowded and nobody seemed to even be aware that the game was going on. Now, I'm sure that there were bars packed with people watching the game also. My point is that nothing--the Bears come closest--in Chicago approaches the almost single-minded obsession that Columbus has towards Ohio State football.

That in and of itself is not a bad thing, I guess. My use of "hick' might be considered unfortunate. My underlying point, however, that maybe if Columbus brought a little bit of perspective to things and started acting like a grown up city, tattoo artists and car dealers might not be fawning all over these kids and leading them into breaking NCAA rules. Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know, but it sure as hell couldn't hurt.
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Chicago is what...the third largest city in America? Of course there's gonna be more people that don't like sports...there are more people. tOSU touches peoples lives in Ohio far more than the Bears in Chicago, because no one's mother got treated for cancer at Soldier fucking Field. No one was born at Chicago Cubs hospital, overlooking Wrigley. The connection that draws people...OHIOANS to tOSU is far bigger than football. That just happens to be where it manifests itself at times. The crazy thing is, I've found myself talking shit to other schools fans about the facilites at tOSU, the Ross Heart Hospital, and The James...among other things....and I didn't attend a single fuckin' class at tOSU.

Also, I don't think "growing up" as a city would change a thing. You have people with disposable income, and players that don't have a fuckin' dime. The asshole players (and even the good ones) will make mistakes and take a handout from time to time from dudes that are douchebags. That isn't going to change...ever. It'll just be different chuckle-fucks giving money to different knuckleheaded players.
 
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Expected there to be some discussion about the story today, but instead I have this feeling:

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ORD_Buckeye;1928213; said:
There's really nothing that I disagree with. My point is one of context. For every person swooning over Jordan in the mid 90s there was an equal component of those who just didn't care. I don't see that component as anywhere nearly as prominent in Columbus.

When I lived in German Village, I got to the know the guys who owned one of the better restaurants there pretty well, and they always mentioned how they almost found themselves in the position of wanting Ohio State to have a crappy season so that people would worry about other things. They would also mention how Kent Rigsby was the only restaurant in town who could "get away" with not having a television.

I was out at two restaurants last night during a Bulls playoff game, and neither had a television, both were crowded and nobody seemed to even be aware that the game was going on. Now, I'm sure that there were bars packed with people watching the game also. My point is that nothing--the Bears come closest--in Chicago approaches the almost single-minded obsession that Columbus has towards Ohio State football.

That in and of itself is not a bad thing, I guess. My use of "hick' might be considered unfortunate. My underlying point, however, that maybe if Columbus brought a little bit of perspective to things and started acting like a grown up city, tattoo artists and car dealers might not be fawning all over these kids and leading them into breaking NCAA rules. Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know, but it sure as hell couldn't hurt.
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In the areas around the Columbus where people raise family's and work for companies like Limited Brands, Chase, Huntington, Nationwide, Cardinal Health, Safe Auto etc etc where the majority of the population lives this stuff you speak of is not as prevelent........like I said before after 2002 the bandwagon got full of dustache wearing non beard growing pukes that have done some damage to Ohio State's image (see 05 Texas game)
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1928223; said:
Tuesday. Sorry, it's been a long week. Carnival Season is coming up, and I've been tasked with forging the safety inspection certificates for the kiddie rides. It's a big jump up in responsibility.
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LOL.

The thing is population size offers you better diversity and a greater chance that more people will turn a blind eye to sports, especially in a city like Chicago. Music, arts and other things take up people's time there. People go to Cubs games to drink and party. That's why their fan base stays steady even while they suck. Museums, Navy pier, Lallapalooza, venues with Buddy guy and other legends playing, an actual Downtown area worth visiting changes what people care about.
 
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