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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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matcar;1928336; said:
Yeah, but I don't care about that. I mean, is Titus right about that? Or do we now say that HE has an axe to grind as well?

I would not think he has one to grind, and I can't really say he is "wrong" because obviously there has been plenty of wrong doing within the university as of late.

Personally, if I was an Ohio State athlete/alum with a voice in the media I would not pick a side defiantly. Don't blast the school that gave you an education and athletic scholarship + the notoriety to do what you do today...but if you don't like what's going on surely don't surgarcoat things and pretend nothing wrong is happening.

I find it funny though that the article on ESPN pretty much focuses on Ray Small, and not the dozens of others that were apparently called and interviewed. You find 1 negative in a pool of 20 and report on that one. I get it, and expect it...but hate to see it.
 
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Magua;1928337; said:
I find it funny though that the article on ESPN pretty much focuses on Ray Small, and not the dozens of others that were apparently called and interviewed. You find 1 negative in a pool of 20 and report on that one. I get it, and expect it...but hate to see it.

I don't really understand how people think it shoudn't have focused on Ray Small. Same with The Lantern's piece. Small said he broke rules.. that's a big deal. Players not breaking rules is not a big deal, because it's how it's supposed to be done. They don't get the school in trouble.
 
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3074326;1928345; said:
I don't really understand how people think it shoudn't have focused on Ray Small. Same with The Lantern's piece. Small said he broke rules.. that's a big deal. Players not breaking rules is not a big deal, because it's how it's supposed to be done. They don't get the school in trouble.

When you think about it, Small didn't say anything new or revolutionary here. Basically he just reitorated what everyone already knows: Players traded their awards for tattoos and/or money (i.e. to Edward A. Rife); and players "thought" that they were getting a good deal on a car from a specific car salesman/dealer. Which is what all car salesmen want you to think when they sell you a car. They want you to come back to them to buy another and refer all your friends to them too. Small is just getting his "15 minutes of [strike]fame[/strike] shame" here.

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ScriptOhio;1928350; said:
When you think about it, Small didn't say anything new or revolutionary here. Basically he just reitorated what everyone already knows: Players traded their awards for tattoos and/or money (i.e. to Edward A. Rife); and players "thought" that they were getting a good deal on a car from a specific car salesman/dealer. Which is what all car salesmen want you to think when they sell you a car. They want you to come back to them to buy another and refer all your friends to them too. Small is just getting his "15 minutes of [strike]fame[/strike] shame" here.

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I'm pretty sure Gene Smith said in that ridiculous press conference that the issues about tattoos and rings (etc) were isolated to those five players. Small confirms that it was not. Also, the fact that another player has admitted to breaking rules and that others don't even think about them is a big deal. I think all this is at least somewhat new and certainly a big deal.
 
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3074326;1928360; said:
I'm pretty sure Gene Smith said in that ridiculous press conference that the issues about tattoos and rings (etc) were isolated to those five players. Small confirms that it was not. Also, the fact that another player has admitted to breaking rules and that others don't even think about them is a big deal. I think all this is at least somewhat new and certainly a big deal.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=145&f=1079&t=7543595&p=14

Brooks is convinced Player G is Small
 
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ScriptOhio;1928350; said:
When you think about it, Small didn't say anything new or revolutionary here. Basically he just reitorated what everyone already knows: Players traded their awards for tattoos and/or money (i.e. to Edward A. Rife); and players "thought" that they were getting a good deal on a car from a specific car salesman/dealer. Which is what all car salesmen want you to think when they sell you a car. They want you to come back to them to buy another and refer all your friends to them too. Small is just getting his "15 minutes of [strike]fame[/strike] shame" here.

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Yup, not everyone gets the genuine great deal I gave you on that lime-green Yugo. Most people pay three, four times sticker for that rare treat. Can't believe you talked it down to only double. :biggrin:

Unrelated edit: Just found a reason to need to make this clear: board rules apply to thread tags, too.
 
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3074326;1928371; said:
Based on what? He admitted to breaking rules, I'm not sure why he'd lie about whether or not he got something for a game he didn't even play in.
Maybe he thought it would make the quotes generic rather than specific to the items investigation.
 
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3074326;1928371; said:
Based on what? He admitted to breaking rules, I'm not sure why he'd lie about whether or not he got something for a game he didn't even play in.

I think it's pretty well established that Ray Small enjoys doing and saying things that don't make a lot of sense to most other people.
 
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bassbuckeye07;1928377; said:
Did he say he didnt? If thats the case then I change my mind..... I thought off memory the writer used deductive reasoning to say he didnt get the swag

I was thinking Small did, but it was actually Dan Wallenberg.. here it is to save you the trouble of finding it.

Among the items this mystery player sold to Rife was a 2010 Rose Bowl watch for $250. However, Small, defensive end Rob Rose and running back Bo DeLande were suspended for the 2010 Rose Bowl for a "violation of team rules."

According to athletic department spokesman Dan Wallenberg, that means Small didn't receive a watch.

"Postseason awards are limited to student-athletes who are eligible to participate in such contests under NCAA and Big Ten Conference regulations," Wallenberg said Wednesday in an email to The Lantern.
 
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Right, but it would be pretty easy to give your suspended pal something from the game, especially something like a watch that they'd never wear and doesn't really work on a mantle piece.
 
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