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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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LightningRod;1884950; said:
Again, why the need to protect the source or concerned party? Tressel is alleged to have had a discussion with the concerned party. If the allegation is true, he knows the identity. What is there to protect?
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The concerned party against radical fans.
 
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LightningRod;1884970; said:
If the allegations are true, the concerned party's identity is already known. Do you believe OSU is not going to disclose this person's name if this person actually exists?
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That is, of course, unless the "concerned party" "approached" Tressel via email (which would explain why the Dispatch and Yahoo Sports are filing an open records request as we speak).

Dear Coach Tressel,

I am concerned about your athletes breaking rules. You should look into it.

Sincerely,

CrazyBuckNutF4N2002
 
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Troy Smith was turned in by an OSU alum and fan. I don't recall any need on his part to secure police protection notwithstanding the disclosure of his name by the Dispatch. As for the sample email, if you were advising OSU athletics on compliance issues and that email came across your desk, what advice would you give and to whom would you give it?
 
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Buckeye86;1884971; said:
That is, of course, unless the "concerned party" "approached" Tressel via email (which would explain why the Dispatch and Yahoo Sports are filing an open records request as we speak).

Dear Coach Tressel,

I am concerned about your athletes breaking rules. You should look into it.

Sincerely,

CrazyBuckNutF4N2002
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If he did receive such an email, is he supposed to take every nutcase that emails him seriously? I am sure there are nutcases who email him with advice and concerns all the time...
 
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LightningRod;1884973; said:
As for the sample email, if you were advising OSU athletics on compliance issues and that email came across your desk, what advice would you give and to whom would you give it?
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If you are asking me, I don't know. I think it goes back to the volume of emails the compliance department gets and the specifics within the email in question.

If the compliance department gets 300 emails a week with people voicing concerns, that impacts how they process them. If the email in question was vague, that would also impact the process that they use.

If the email was highly specific and one of the only ones that they processed in the given time period, that would be bad.

And it works the same for a phone call.

Unless the "concerned party" was closely associated with Tressel, I doubt they would have had direct contact with the coach, which means mail, email, or phone call. If they were closely associated, than like LightningRod has been pointing out, the identity is already known so what is the point of protecting it?
 
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LightningRod;1884973; said:
Troy Smith was turned in by an OSU alum and fan. I don't recall any need on his part to secure police protection notwithstanding the disclosure of his name by the Dispatch.
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Troy then was not Troy later, and in any event that was not anywhere close to potentially as big a deal as this could be.

So I see you, and raise you a Steve Bartman.
 
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Let's just say . . . .

. . .one of us is the "concerned party" and/or the information source. That person is a fan and supporter of the program, so instead of dealing with the problem by contacting the university he goes to the media. But just not the local media. He doesn't go to the Dispatch or the Lantern. He does not go to the PD or the ABJ. He goes to Yahoo. To me that scenario does not make sense.
Okay, now let's say that it is a person who is not particularly a fan of the program. If what he has to say has legs he could instantly make a name for himself without risk of alienating anyone that matters to him. But his unwillingness to be named and stand behind the allegations only lends to the conclusion that he cannot be considered reliable, regardless of the truth or falsity of the story. Just because a reporter stands behind the source does not make it any better, even if his name is Dan Rather.
Bottom line, a "concerned party" comes forward in some responsible manner. A not so concerned party likewise comes forward, in perhaps some other manner. In either case, the public gets a chance to see and evaluate the conduct of the accused in a meaningful way.
On the other hand, it may just all about the number of hits on the story. . . .
 
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Colvinnl;1884849; said:
Not only Yahoo has its credibility on the line...so does Dan Wetzel. Even if Yahoo goes the way of the dodo, Wetzel is going to need another job. If he wants a decent job he will need some level of credibility. Lobbing a serious accusation at an otherwise well-regarded coach of a major program is not going to help that case.
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Unless he wants to move on and work for the worldwide leader.
OH10;1884947; said:
The more I digest this, the more I believe the source is the concerned party and Yahoo is playing with the wording to protect the source. I also think the source has to be someone close to or inside the program/athletic department AND that there is an email or other type of documentary evidence to support these allegations.

The reason I believe this is because of the reputation of Y!Sports and Dan Wetzel. You don't spend years building up that reputation just to have it torn down by running a flimsy story designed to drop a bombshell on America's most polarizing program. You also don't hold back on the evidence unless its necessary to protect the source.
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Since when does the reporter choose the fucking headline? Is there no editor at yahoo to decide which pieces by the reporters gets the front page? Maybe Pretzel wanted to sit on it, but since they got beat to the punch on Oregon, someone had to pay the fuckin' light bill.
 
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There's also the possibility that Tressel was made aware of something in April, it was investigated and nothing came to light until the fuzz got involved in December. In short, this seems like a very hazy subject that will difficult to pin on anybody without absolute proof. Now, if emails turn up, all bets are off. But you have to wonder why yahoo didn't petition for this stuff before running with the story. My guess (and it's just a guess) is that their "source" doesn't have much to back it up and they've just now decided to do their due diligence after already releasing the story. Either thator they've put the proverbial cart before the horse and are rushing out the story before gathering the evidence.

Either way,given yahoo's reputation, something isn't adding up here. You'd think if they knew of hard evidence, they'd spend the extra couple days acquiring it before rushing out a flimsy story. I doesn't seem like they risk being scooped, because nobody, to include tOSU itself or tOSU insiders caught a whiff of this. Something just doesn't seem right here. Is yahoo breaking their m.o. and putting out this stuff before they have the hard evidence, or are they just floating something out there believing that their reputation is enough to carry the story?
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1884982; said:
The Ohio State fan base isn't one that I would call "stable" when it comes to something like this.
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Again, I don't recall the need for police protection for the OSU alum and fan who turned in Troy. The Dispatch didn't see a need to hide the attorney's name in that situation. IMO it's an excuse that doesn't hold water especially when the identity of the concerned party is already known if the allegations are true.
 
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NFBuck;1884980; said:
Either way,given yahoo's reputation, something isn't adding up here. You'd think if they knew of hard evidence, they'd spend the extra couple days acquiring it before rushing out a flimsy story. I doesn't seem like they risk being scooped, because nobody, to include tOSU itself or tOSU insiders caught a whiff of this. Something just doesn't seem right here. Is yahoo breaking their m.o. and putting out this stuff before they have the hard evidence, or are they just floating something out there believing that their reputation is enough to carry the story?
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This is what scares me. Like I said like 15 pages ago, I can almost see Yahoo dangling the carrot out there to see what Ohio St does. Then depending on how Ohio St reacts, they drop the 2nd story for impact. Like if Tressel comes out and denies the story, Yahoo then says they have an email or tape. OR their source will only give them so much unless Tressel denies the report, so Yahoo had to run the story just to see if their source will open up more.

I tend to believe Yahoo as they do their work, but something doesn't seem right and that gives me a bad feeling.

Would be great if one of the BP insiders calms us down or gets us prepared for more.
 
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