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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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ORD_Buckeye;1884929; said:
Conversely, my skeptical side has always been troubled by the manner in which GS threw the compliance department under the bus in a manner reminiscent of Asquith sacrificing Churchill after the Dardanelles fiasco. It just has never passed the smell test in my opinion and seemed to beg the issue of a larger backstory.
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That did indeed have a very unusual feeling to it.

So, say someone in the compliance department feels they got the short end of the stick? They could be the source, no?

Edit: I had only read the SI article. After reviewing the Yahoo article, stuff gets dicier and I doubt the compliance dept is the source. If the buyer was showing off the memorabilia on facebook, it could easily be that someone emailed info on that to Tressel's osu email address. Then, the question would be who checks Tressel's email? Do other people (interns, GA's) get to read/reply?
 
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3074326;1884907; said:
Agreed on both accounts, the handling of the story has been odd, especially given Yahoo's track record. But their track record is also what worries me.
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They have a good track record. I don't recall them running with front page material and being overtly wrong on things. They aren't saying too much right now in the article (in terms of adding opinion to the report), this isn't some op-ed piece and so far, the two op-ed articles I've read with Mandel and the Yahoo! blogger haven't stated much beyond two things:

Its an accusation that lacks punch because its based on one anonymous source, but the writers themselves (Wetzel and Robinson) have lent their credibility to the story here.

If its true, it doesn't necessarily damn the program of anything if the proper procedures were followed.

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If its true and Tressel knew about it and lied...


However, Yahoo! Sports' College Football op-eds lead me to believe that in general, they would like to see a college football playoff (Wetzel and Robinson wrote a book on it), they are possibly in favor of allowing players to get paid more in stipends and spending money (Wetzel), and they know the Big Ten is a huge obstacle to change in the BCS oligarchy (Wetzel and Robinson in their articles and book Death to the BCS). Do they have an agenda here? Quite possibly. Is that agenda influencing their story? No idea.

The article itself is written in a damning tone, that is to say, they throw all the facts of many different Ohio State football incidents that seem to indicate a program out of control even though those investigations have been conducted in terms of player property selling and the car rental usage. In my eyes, that tells me that their story is struggling in general because it seems like the main point is that Tressel would have lied, but they are trying to make that seem more credible by making secondary, non-related points by restating what is known about the initial memorabilia problems.

If this article is shown to have been not very damning for Ohio State, the Yahoo! article won't have to issue an apology as it won't have printed anything overtly wrong here.
 
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In the age of Twitter, former Ohio State offensive lineman Jim Cordle wrote, "I haven't seen Tressel fail yet . . . Good luck Charles Robinson and Dan Wetzel ... you will need it."
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Good enough for me.


I dont know why but I have a sinking feeling that Gene Smith might have F'ed up here somewhere. I have no proof or havent heard anything, just a bad feeling. Tressel is clean. 'Nuff said.
 
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Two things to note about Yahoo's story:

(1) Their source had his/her information second hand: "According to a source, a concerned party reached out to Tressel last April...."

(2) Even according to their source, Tressel may have done nothing wrong: "the coach indicated that he would investigate the matter and take appropriate action...." The Yahoo story never states that Tressel failed to investigate or covered up the results of any investigation. If the source is correct, it is quite possible that Tressel did investigate and found no wrongdoing.
 
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OH10;1884835; said:
If its not true, OSU and Tressel need to come out and stamp it down. Not tommorrow afternoon. Not after breakfast. As soon as possible.
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Regardless of the specific facts, I don't think it's incumbent on Coach Tressel to issue a response "as soon as possible." I think responding to this report is just one of his many job responsibilities, and not necessarily the most important nor the most urgent.
 
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LordJeffBuck;1884940; said:
Two things to note about Yahoo's story:

(1) Their source had his/her information second hand: "According to a source, a concerned party reached out to Tressel last April...."

(2) Even according to their source, Tressel may have done nothing wrong: "the coach indicated that he would investigate the matter and take appropriate action...." The Yahoo story never states that Tressel failed to investigate or covered up the results of any investigation. If the source is correct, it is quite possible that Tressel did investigate and found no wrongdoing.
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Problem with that theory: Ohio State already tied their hands by saying they didn't know befoe December 8.
 
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OH10;1884942; said:
Problem with that theory: Ohio State already tied their hands by saying they didn't know befoe December 8.
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That depends on how credible the "concerned party" is. I'm sure Ohio State gets a lot of phone calls from a lot of different people concerning a lot of different topics, with a large percentage of them being of the bat shit insane variety.
 
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Jaxbuck;1884882; said:
A) you either did know about it before 12/8/10 or B) you did not know about it before 12/8/10.
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Or C) you heard a vague rumor about something before 12/8/10 but didn't put much credence to it until you got more information, later on, from a more credible source.

The number of people who seem willing to assume the worst about Coach Tressel disappoints me. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but we've certainly become a cynical bunch.
 
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Sources last night told The Dispatch that Yahoo investigators had made an open-records request of phone and/or e-mail records of Tressel and perhaps other OSU athletic administrators in an attempt to prove there was contact back in April with the tipster. The requests are still in the working stages, one source said, and have not yet been fulfilled.
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I would have thought that the source or concerned party already provided this proof to the Yahoo writers. Silly me.

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The more I digest this, the more I believe the source is the concerned party and Yahoo is playing with the wording to protect the source. I also think the source has to be someone close to or inside the program/athletic department AND that there is an email or other type of documentary evidence to support these allegations.

The reason I believe this is because of the reputation of Y!Sports and Dan Wetzel. You don't spend years building up that reputation just to have it torn down by running a flimsy story designed to drop a bombshell on America's most polarizing program. You also don't hold back on the evidence unless its necessary to protect the source.
 
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OH10;1884947; said:
The more I digest this, the more I believe the source is the concerned party and Yahoo is playing with the wording to protect the source. I also think the source has to be someone close to or inside the program/athletic department AND that there is an email or other type of documentary evidence to support these allegations.

The reason I believe this is because of the reputation of Y!Sports and Dan Wetzel. You don't spend years building up that reputation just to have it torn down by running a flimsy story designed to drop a bombshell on America's most polarizing program. You also don't hold back on the evidence unless its necessary to protect the source.
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I agree with you on this. For some reason, Yahoo feels it has the smoking gun. My guess is that smoking gun won't be nearly as strong as the evidence provided in the Oregon and Newton scandals.....but nonetheless it will be strong enough to be considered more than smoke. Really sad that the journalists' risk to their credibility and livelihood is much less than that of Tressel or Smith.
 
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