Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[bassbuckeye07]

This whole thing is turning into a textbook definition of lack of institutional control. Wexner and Ong need to step in and clean fucking house.

I'm at the point where I wouldn't be disappointed if the ncaa gave us the death penalty.

but all the businesses around the stadium...the students...the fathers grandfathers that share game day as sacred would and they didnt do shit

 

[alexhortdog95]

but all the businesses around the stadium...the students...the fathers grandfathers that share game day as sacred would and they didnt do shit

I doubt we'd ever see another university that receives the death penalty, so let's relax with all the NCAA Hara-Kiri mumbo jumbo, LOL

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

I'm at the point where I wouldn't be disappointed if the ncaa gave us the death penalty.

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[ORD_Buckeye]

overreact much? nothing released so far even comes close to warranting the death penalty.

This is essentially a broad based program of providing improper benefits and active complicity within the athletic department and compliance office to maintain it. The only thing that makes it non-death penalty is the fact that we weren't already on ncaa probation when the violations occurred.

He and Smith both need to go. Yesterday! If Gee doesn't have the stomach for what's ahead, then Wexner, Ong and Kasich need to pull the plug on him also. We won't get the death penalty. But when the dust has finally settled on this mess, Ohio State will for a long time (think decades) be associated with the worst kind of SEC/Barry Switzer/USC type of cheating. For that, no amount of public disgrace, humiliation and shame that may come his way is sufficient.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

This is essentially a broad based program of providing improper benefits...

link?

 

[Mike80]

This whole thing is turning into a textbook definition of lack of institutional control. Wexner and Ong need to step in and clean fucking house.

It is posts like this one that we need a cliff-diver smiley....holy hell

I'm at the point where I wouldn't be disappointed if the ncaa gave us the death penalty.

 

[bassbuckeye07]

This is essentially a broad based program of providing improper benefits and active complicity within the athletic department and compliance office to maintain it. The only thing that makes it non-death penalty is the fact that we weren't already on ncaa probation when the violations occurred.

He and Smith both need to go. Yesterday! If Gee doesn't have the stomach for what's ahead, then Wexner, Ong and Kasich need to pull the plug on him also. We won't get the death penalty. But when the dust has finally settled on this mess, Ohio State will for a long time (think decades) be associated with the worst kind of SEC/Barry Switzer/USC type of cheating. For that, no amount of public disgrace, humiliation and shame that may come his way is sufficient.

That car is bad ass

 

[buck1973]

I'm not sure about all of the different sales that the dealership went through in the time span being reported, but...

I do know that if you get a Chrysler 300 with less than 20k on that bad boy for $0 bucks, you'd better have a damn good explanation for it.

A guy I used to coach with told me one time:

"When I played, the coaches told us - if you leave one weekend with a Honda POS and come back with any kind of car that starts with a 'C' and doesn't rhyme with crappy, we got problems."

The GoodFellas reference was good earlier. Especially since everybody involved with the Lufthansa heist was wacked by Jimmy, LOL

To me, the situation with Gibson sounds like a clerical error at the title office. Per the Dispatch article, the title shows that Gibson has a loan, but the purchase price was $0. I don't know about you, but I've never had to take out a loan for something that was free. Gibson wouldn't have known of the error since the lien holder is going to have title.

I also doubt it was about taxes. In Ohio, if a dealer gives a car to someone for $0, tax owed is the "value" of the car. This value is the amount the dealer paid or took in trade for the car. This would likely only save the purchaser a few hundred dollars in taxes. Also, the penalty for a dealer fraudulently reporting sales information is up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. Reporting a loan with a purchase price of $0 is going to set off red flags at the title office. I don't see a dealer doing this, especially when they could save the purchaser the same amount in taxes by reporting the dealer purchase price.

 

[buxfan4life]

Wow.

People really need to turn off ESPN, disregard the Dispatch articles that have really found nothing new, and enjoy life for awhile.

Speculation has really gone overboard on this site. Step back from the ledge people. The NCAA has not said what their findings are yet, and we will know in a few months on what will happen, if anything.

I almost feel like I have gone back in time to 2003 with all of the unfounded accusations being flung around and getting full merit before the NCAA came out with their actual findings.


Man, I really hate the off-season.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

link?

There are multiple links all over this thread about what's been going on under JT. Another one or two, won't clear the blinders for some.

We'll all need to wait for the ncaa report. Even then, no matter how damning and detailed it might prove to be, I have little doubt that there will be those who find a way to discount it nonetheless. After all, we're 9-1 against Michigan.

 

[scarletmike]

No joke. ORD and others with that mindset; please, show me where there is rampant lack of control and blatant disregard for even trying to follow rules anywhere other than the issue we already know the facts about what happened (Tressel and the tattoos). This car crap seems like a lot of nothing as far as tOSU is concerned. Step away from the cliff, or pull the string on your parachute.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

There are multiple links all over this thread about what's been going on under JT. Another one or two, won't clear the blinders for some.

We'll all need to wait for the ncaa report. Even then, no matter how damning and detailed it might prove to be, I have little doubt that there will be those who find a way to discount it nonetheless. After all, we're 9-1 against Michigan.

What if the NCAA's report is more like the one in 2004? I seem to recall the media issuing story after story of how awful Ohio State was then and the NCAA went ahead and accepted the self imposed penalty on Smith as the only thing "wrong" with the program.

I don't mean this to be directed at you alone, but along with what buxfan4life just said, seems to me there's enough people out there who consider themselves judge, jury and executioner.... and it's interesting that those folks are dependent on the same media they purport to loathe.

I find the whole thing laughable. The media's role.. our fans roles... etc.. Yeah, it's a topic worth discussing and by all means have at it.... but.. remember - your dealing with a incomplete set of facts and basing conclusions on that incomplete set. Even for someone like me, who has no faith in the NCAA at all, I don't see much of a point in getting upset (or defensive, for that matter) on what might become of Tressel or Ohio State.

Once there is something definitive from the NCAA, I'll decide how I feel about it. Until then.... well... I have other things to stress about, I guess.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

No joke. ORD and others with that mindset; please, show me where there is rampant lack of control and blatant disregard for even trying to follow rules anywhere other than the issue we already know the facts about what happened (Tressel and the tattoos). This car crap seems like a lot of nothing as far as tOSU is concerned. Step away from the cliff, or pull the string on your parachute.

If one goes back to the early pages in this thread, one finds the arguments of those dismissing the initial reports of tattoos to be eerily similar to those now dismissing the initial reports on cargate.

Like I said above, we'll all ultimately need to wait and see how this pans out, and the ncaa's final report. That being said, JT's already proven pattern of lies, deceit and covering up, have negated his ever getting the benefit of the doubt from me again. He's guilty until proven innocent in my eyes, and that's a situation that he his past actions have roundly justified.

Quite honestly because of his winning record and/or his outward displays of religion, there are those who will excuse anything that's revealed about him up to and including the moment that CNN helicopters might be showing live footage of the dead boys being removed from his crawl space. They can continue to walk with the shepherd, but my eyes are wide f#$cking open.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

There are multiple links all over this thread about what's been going on under JT. Another one or two, won't clear the blinders for some.

you obviously have absolutely no clue about what type of illegal activities warrant the death penalty.

We'll all need to wait for the ncaa report.

in the meantime, let's implicitly hope for the death penalty. yeah!

 

[Mike80]

you obviously have absolutely no clue about what type of illegal activities warrant the death penalty.


in the meantime, let's implicitly hope for the death penalty. yeah!

It really does seem to me that some people have been pushing for that type of punishment from day one (not saying Ord, but others).....