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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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Thanks for bringing that over to the proper thread, Lord Jeff.

I would imagine Ohio State would be forced to vacate wins if they used ineligible players and Tressel knew. It seems highly likely at this point that he knew they would be ineligible and played them anyway. That would vacate all 11 wins.

But would that be Gee's benchmark for axing Tressel? Vacated wins are a bit of an asterisk, aren't they? We all know who won those games, and we all know who won the Big Ten title last year, no matter what the record books say. Think of Bobby Bowden - sure, the NCAA vacated some wins, but we as college football fans know who really won those games.

I can't imagine that OSU would can Tressel if they erase 2011 from the books. If the administration is backing him today, without further allegations/penalties, I doubt he gets fired.
 
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When I woke up, my roommate told me about the developments. I'm not sure what to say about my literal lack of reaction on the subject. I'm numb to all this stuff now. Didn't really get too excited for the Spring Game. Curious how I'm going to feel this fall. I'm so disappointed in everything related to this situation. It's made me not excited for football.

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RE: the prospect of Ohio State being labeled a "Repeat Offender"...

This is one aspect that I find to be bullshit. "Repeat Offender" is an institutional designation, so it's not confined to the individuals that carried out the actions. Therefore it doesn't matter that one incident was Troy Smith and another was Jim O'Brien and another was Jim Tressel.

On the other hand, they are declining to bring any institutional charges (such as Failure to Monitor) in this case. With that being the case, I fail to see how they could possibly label the INSTITUTION as repeat offenders if they don't see fit to even bring charges against it. I know we're not dealing with a logical entitiy here, but it would seem be that in order to invoke an institutional designation such as that one there would need to be an institutional offense.
 
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Saw31;1911312; said:
That may be true...:lol:
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jwinslow;1911313; said:
Exactly. It doesn't speak well of his judgment of character :p
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Saw31;1911314; said:
Piling on now. You guys work for Yahoo or ESPiN?


:lol:
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I believe that Saw should take him around to all the proper forums. Since he's our embodiment of depravity, it'll show Knapplc how the other side lives. :biggrin:
 
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Guess I'm missing something based on some folk's reaction, but that report is basically confirming what we already knew. Bonus: nothing new has come out and the dreaded "failure to monitor" and "lack of institutional control" is not being brought forth.

Everything in that report is stuff we already knew. So, why the hand wringing?

My guess, and granted, I'm far from an expert, forfeit some wins and some additional restrictions made on Tressel...perhaps pertaining to recruiting.

Unfortunately, I think the worst part of all of this is that I feel, and I have no inside information, but I feel, that Jim Tressel will step down sooner rather than later. How soon probably depends on what his punishment ultimately is.
 
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Why do people feel OSU will vacate wins? IMO, that's absurd. The players involved are sitting for the next 5 games and the NCAA has already stated that penalty won't change. If you are saying they vacate wins, then you are adding to their penalty by saying they should have sat out additional games. Also, I don't see that anything has actually changed. The NCAA had to send a notice of allegations once they received OSU's self report. Everything in that self report was known to OSU when they punished JT in the first place.
 
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I drink, therefore I am...


Someone said that once I think.



Maybe it was me. Can't remember...


And before this gets split, I agree with jlb. I find it difficult to justify a 'repeat offender' label when they're not citing the institution with anything. Though it has been seen many times that the NCAA isn't in the 'sense-making' business.
 
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