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Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

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FCollinsBuckeye;1911230; said:
This shit was self-fucking-reported. What is the incentive to try and do things the 'right' way? What the fuck.
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Institutionally it was self-reported, but the steps that Tressel took before that were the opposite of self-reporting. If things had been done the right way, this whole episode would've been over October of last year.

My biggest questions at this point are, how far would the sanctions have to go before the university considers Tressel a sort of lame duck coach, and is the NCAA willing to push it that far in this case?
 
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Bucklion;1911226; said:
A TV ban is the one place I see that has too many innocent victims...mainly networks and advertisers, all of whom commit big money. I don't see how the NCAA could say a TV ban targets the school...they'll still sell out their tickets, and in fact tickets would be in more demand if people can't watch on TV...so that doesn't really make a lot of sense.
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Exactly right, but, can the NCAA "fine" (for lack of a better term) part of its BTN revenue?

That would make some sense. First, it only penalizes Ohio State. Not the rest of the conference.

Take this out of context for a moment, what if the Cam Newton thing comes back and blows up in Auburn's face and they decide to slap a bowl ban on them, reduce scholarships and all that stuff, but, Auburn still gets all the $ from the ESPN deal?

Same kind of thing...

Back to the Big Ten, bowl bans would punish the whole conference as well since they share that revenue too... so... I'd say if you want to hit programs where it counts, hit them in the wallet. But only their wallet... and indirectly, loss of scholarships, mass suspensions and the like accomplish the same thing (you'll be less likely to have bowl eligible teams in your conference).

I'm not saying I advocate such a course of action, but, it makes a bunch of sense in that it's directly impactful to the offender, and from a precedent standpoint, you can impose sanctions based on revenue to other schools... (Kind of like how they fine speeders in Germany, based on income).
 
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The actual cover letter and Notice of Allegations can be accessed from this page.

I can't link them directly.

The NCAA managed to misspell Delany's name in the 'cc:' portion of the cover letter.

The requests for information about number of scholarships, TV revenue, etc. are standard in this type of document. TSUN received the same requests in their Notice of Allegations last year, they were found guilty of 'Failure to Monitor', and they were never close to getting banned from TV.

So please - let's all just relax about the TV thing being part of any potential penalty.

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COLUMBUS, Ohio--The Ohio State University has received a Notice of Allegations from the NCAA related to previously announced matters involving members of its football program. The allegations are largely consistent with what the university self-reported to the NCAA on March 8, 2011, and which were widely covered in the media. The university will continue to work cooperatively with the NCAA during the response phase to the NCAA that now begins, and will have no further comment until the process is completed.
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Has it been reported who the other players were that took illegal benefits? Or did that fall under the student-privacy act?

That part of the report read funny to me, but I'd be interested in knowing who the additional players were who are no longer with the program.

In a "notice of allegations" given to Ohio State President E. Gordon Gee on Friday and obtained by The Dispatch, the NCAA accused Tressel of dishonesty for hiding violations by seven current and former players who sold awards and equipment to a tattoo-parlor owner.
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Pryor
Adams
Herron
Thomas
Posey
Whiting
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Nobody who knows Tressel personally is willing to say anything less than full support for him. I find that encouraging about him. I know it doesn't help with the NCAA violations, but it is encouraging. The only people who are saying anything negative about the man don't know him.
 
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Once again, the media misses a very simple and fundamental point. Coaches are under contract to universities, NOT the NCAA. Not one of those coaches were fired by the NCAA, and all would have kept their jobs had their universities chosen to retain them.
 
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BrutusBobcat;1911287; said:
Once again, the media misses a very simple and fundamental point. Coaches are under contract to universities, NOT the NCAA. Not one of those coaches were fired by the NCAA, and all would have kept their jobs had their universities chosen to retain them.
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Meh. The NCAA can impose a Show-Cause penalty, meaning Ohio State will have to explain why they should not be penalized for retaining him after his suspension. If they levy show-cause, it's almost certain he'll be fired.
 
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knapplc;1911286; said:
Hey Buckeye fans. Nebraska fan here looking for your take on the NCAA allegations. Stewart Mandel thinks Tressel has to be gone. What do you guys think?
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BB73;1911186; said:
I think the NCAA will end up making tOSU vacate wins for the 2010 season. Previously, I didn't think that would happen.
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IF Ohio State is forced to vacate wins, then JT should be fired. Period. A coach's job is to win football games, and vacated wins don't count. In this case, any vacated wins would be the direct result of Tressel's failure to report the violations to the NCAA ... in other words, the direct result of his knowingly using ineligible players throughout the 2010 season.

If Ohio State is not forced to vacate any wins, then I'm still on the fence because of this:
unionfutura;1911195; said:
the NCAA puts its all on JT. So if OSU doesn't fire JT the NCAA will make sure his job will be brutal to put up with....great...
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LordJeffBuck;1911295; said:
IF Ohio State is forced to vacate wins, then JT should be fired. Period. A coach's job is to win football games, and vacated wins don't count. In this case, any vacated wins would be the direct result of Tressel's failure to report the violations to the NCAA ... in other words, the direct result of his knowingly using ineligible players throughout the 2010 season.

If Ohio State is not forced to vacate any wins, then I'm still on the fence because of this:
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What would his winning percentage be with those games vacated? I mean, if he still ranks in the top ten winning percentage over the last decade, he'd still be "doing his job".
 
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worst sanction of football program....

I have stumbled across all manner of "Buckeyes to receive most severe sanction in FB program history" across the web...

Color me forgetful, but isn't the most severe previous sanction one year of probation in the 50's?
 
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knapplc;1911294; said:
Meh. The NCAA can impose a Show-Cause penalty, meaning Ohio State will have to explain why they should not be penalized for retaining him after his suspension. If they levy show-cause, it's almost certain he'll be fired.
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From HuskerBoard? Welcome aboard...
 
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