Yahoo, Tattoos, and tOSU (1-year bowl ban, 82 scholly limit for 3 years)

[matcar]

Kyle, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but were you not profoundly disappointed?

I support Coach Tressel and I still would rather have no one else as coach, but I was truly disappointed. According to the facts presented to the public and his own words, he made a huge mistake. He often insists (and I agree) that integrity is the first priority, and he made a calculated error in judgment that violates what he stands for and what tOSU stands for.

When Coach Hayes made his "mistake," he got the death penalty; and, his mistake was an impulsive "crime of passion." Coach Tressel's mistake was premeditated and a major violation; and, the consequences (so far) for JT and the program are much less severe.

Don't get me wrong, I support Coach Tressel. He's human. We all make mistakes. But let's not rationalize what he did as no big deal.

Good post.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Kyle, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but were you not profoundly disappointed?

I support Coach Tressel and I still would rather have no one else as coach, but I was truly disappointed. According to the facts presented to the public and his own words, he made a huge mistake. He often insists (and I agree) that integrity is the first priority, and he made a calculated error in judgment that violates what he stands for and what tOSU stands for.

When Coach Hayes made his "mistake," he got the death penalty; and, his mistake was an impulsive "crime of passion." Coach Tressel's mistake was premeditated and a major violation; and, the consequences (so far) for JT and the program are much less severe.

Don't get me wrong, I support Coach Tressel. He's human. We all make mistakes. But let's not rationalize what he did as no big deal.

It feels like my dad got a dui. That's the best way to describe it.

 

[heisman]

Kyle, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but were you not profoundly disappointed?

I support Coach Tressel and I still would rather have no one else as coach, but I was truly disappointed. According to the facts presented to the public and his own words, he made a huge mistake. He often insists (and I agree) that integrity is the first priority, and he made a calculated error in judgment that violates what he stands for and what tOSU stands for.

When Coach Hayes made his "mistake," he got the death penalty; and, his mistake was an impulsive "crime of passion." Coach Tressel's mistake was premeditated and a major violation; and, the consequences (so far) for JT and the program are much less severe.

Don't get me wrong, I support Coach Tressel. He's human. We all make mistakes. But let's not rationalize what he did as no big deal.

It feels like my dad got a dui. That's the best way to describe it.

Punching opposing players (Hayes) and DUI's (Kyle's dad) are against the law. JT did nothing that breaks any laws. I see that as a huge separation.

To Kyle's point, I see it more like Kyle's dad caught him cheating on his homework and didn't tell his mother or his teachers.

Just my two cents.

 

[BB73]

JT apologized to tOSU fans at a luncheon in Canton today.

CBS

Recently suspended Tressel apologizes to Ohio State fans

CANTON, Ohio -- Ohio State coach Jim Tressel apologized to a room full of fans during his first public speaking engagement since being suspended two games and fined for violating NCAA rules.

Speaking to a packed dining room full of 400 fans -- many of them clad in the Buckeyes' scarlet and gray colors -- at a luncheon sponsored by the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Tressel began his remarks by saying he couldn't say much about the recent troubles at Ohio State.

He then said, "I sincerely apologize for what we've been through."
Dressed in a charcoal suit and dark red tie, Tressel also apologized for the penalties he and the school are facing and for being a distraction to Ohio State's top-ranked basketball team, which enters this week's NCAA tournament as the No. 1 overall seed.

Tressel received a polite standing ovation the moment he entered the room at Tozzi's on 12th restaurant. He was joined at the luncheon by several former players, including Dustin Fox and Tim Anderson, who played on Ohio State's 2002 national championship team under Tressel.

Last week, Tressel was suspended for the first two games next season and fined $250,000 for failing to notify the school about information he received last April involving two players and questionable activities involving the sale of memorabilia.

The NCAA could levy additional penalties on Tressel, who has been at Ohio State since 2001. Tressel has attended the luncheon since he coached at Youngstown State.

Cont'd ...

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

When Coach Hayes made his "mistake," he got the death penalty; and, his mistake was an impulsive "crime of passion." Coach Tressel's mistake was premeditated and a major violation; and, the consequences (so far) for JT and the program are much less severe.

Clocking a college kid on national TV is far more egregious than deciding to hold off on reporting potential violations. As far as "premeditated", you think he knew he was going to get those e-mails? I don't...

 

[BUCKYLE]

JT apologized to tOSU fans at a luncheon in Canton today.

CBS

It's becoming more and more clear that JT has little, if anything to be sorry for. A man as smart as JT doesn't apologize like that. Maybe by just comin' out and sayin' "I'm sorry for what I'VE done", he'd be actually lying.

 

[LightningRod]

Kyle, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but were you not profoundly disappointed?

I support Coach Tressel and I still would rather have no one else as coach, but I was truly disappointed. According to the facts presented to the public and his own words, he made a huge mistake. He often insists (and I agree) that integrity is the first priority, and he made a calculated error in judgment that violates what he stands for and what tOSU stands for.

When Coach Hayes made his "mistake," he got the death penalty; and, his mistake was an impulsive "crime of passion." Coach Tressel's mistake was premeditated and a major violation; and, the consequences (so far) for JT and the program are much less severe.

Don't get me wrong, I support Coach Tressel. He's human. We all make mistakes. But let's not rationalize what he did as no big deal.

I don't recall Coach Hayes receiving the death penalty when he made his 1st mistake that resulted in a public report in 1957. Having brought Woody into the discussion do we look past this "mistake" by Woody?

 

[scarletngray]

Kyle, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but were you not profoundly disappointed?

I support Coach Tressel and I still would rather have no one else as coach, but I was truly disappointed. According to the facts presented to the public and his own words, he made a huge mistake. He often insists (and I agree) that integrity is the first priority, and he made a calculated error in judgment that violates what he stands for and what tOSU stands for.

When Coach Hayes made his "mistake," he got the death penalty; and, his mistake was an impulsive "crime of passion." Coach Tressel's mistake was premeditated and a major violation; and, the consequences (so far) for JT and the program are much less severe.

Don't get me wrong, I support Coach Tressel. He's human. We all make mistakes. But let's not rationalize what he did as no big deal.

Calvinsit - I agree with you with the exception of your analogy of Coach Hayes. In no way does what Tress did equate with that.

:osu:

 

[CalvinistBuck]

Clocking a college kid on national TV is far more egregious than deciding to hold off on reporting potential violations. As far as "premeditated", you think he knew he was going to get those e-mails? I don't...

Premeditated after the fact (as opposed to impulsive). Coach Tressel had plenty of time to seek counsel and report the violations. It was not an impulsive reaction.

I'm not defending the punching of an opposing player, just highlighting the difference between impulsive behavior (e.g., chair throwing) and premeditated behavior (e.g., lying to an investigator).

 

[Gatorubet]

It's becoming more and more clear that JT has little, if anything to be sorry for.

Please explain.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Please explain.

Please go fuck yourself.

But seriously...

Every time he's apologized, it's been this "I'm sorry for what we've been thru" stuff, and not "I fucked up. My b, brah".

I'd bet a good amount of similac that the whole story hasn't come out yet. I just hope it does.

 

[matcar]

It's becoming more and more clear that JT has little, if anything to be sorry for. A man as smart as JT doesn't apologize like that. Maybe by just comin' out and sayin' "I'm sorry for what I'VE done", he'd be actually lying.

He said

I apologize for the fact I wasn't able to find the ones to partner with to handle our difficult and complex situation.

To say anything more might get him in trouble with law enforcement. OTOH, it might instead get him in trouble with the NCAA. He's apologized and he admitted to some obvious mistakes. Again, I can get with forgiving him, but acting like he didn't do anything isn't rational.

 

[BUCKYLE]

He said


To say anything more might get him in trouble with law enforcement. OTOH, it might instead get him in trouble with the NCAA. He's apologized and he admitted to some obvious mistakes. Again, I can get with forgiving him, but acting like he didn't do anything isn't rational.

I don't know if you've noticed, but I ain't exactly a rational motherfucker. How ya like them apples?

 

[CalvinistBuck]

Calvinsit - I agree with you with the exception of your analogy of Coach Hayes. In no way does what Tress did equate with that.

:osu:

I regret using the Coach Hayes illustration. Didn't help my argument. I was trying to vividly illustrate how Coach Tressel made a calculated decision as opposed to an impulsive reaction. I am not trying to equate the two coaches.

Here's my take: (1) Coach Tressel had ample time to properly report the violations and he should have done so. And, unless he's lying now, he agrees. (2) Yes, I am disappointed. JT is as well. And, if Coach is only disappointed because he got caught, then he's not the man I thought he was. (3) Coach Tressel experiences a level of pressure few of us can imagine. He made a forgivable mistake and has earned the right to continue to coach the Bucks; and, I hope he continues to do so.

 

[Gatorubet]

Every time he's apologized, it's been this "I'm sorry for what we've been thru" stuff, and not "I [censored]ed up. My b, brah".

I'd bet a good amount of similac that the whole story hasn't come out yet. I just hope it does.

Certainly, that may be true. One would wonder why he'd take a two game suspension and a $250,000.00 hit for someone else. I mean, maybe you know people who would sit back and let themselves be vilified and penalized a quarter mil for something they did not do. I don't, but I guess it's possible.

More importantly, why does your baby momma hate breast feeding? Your freezer should have little bags of frozen breast milk in it like mine did.