World University Rankings (MEGAMERGE)

[Muck]

We're working on this. It'll be a different university in ten years. Patience.

It wasn't a slight against Nebraska. It was meant to show how much the conference has lost on the academic front.

Before realignment Nebraska would have been generally been rated lower than Texas, Colorado, A&M, Missouri, Kansas & Iowa St.

Today they would be only be behind Texas, Kansas & Iowa St (not sure why I had '5th' originally).

That means that outside of those three EVERY Big 12 institution is ranked lower than ANY in the B1G and of those three, two are behind all but one B1G school.

 

[knapplc]

No worries. I know where we rank academically.

Mostly I was joking.

 

[Muck]

Does Chicago even have a football team? I think they disbanded football in 1950s...

The University of Chicago is still a member in good standing of the CIC.

UCSD doesn't have a football team (the ultimate frisbee team used to be pretty good) but as it's my alma mater I also included it. :p

Actually, the people I knew who went into the Peace Corps had pretty strong academic records and ended up in top grad schools, the foreign service or the CIA when they came out of it.

As for why it's included in that particular ranking, I think it's for the same reason that ROTC enrollment is included: as a measurement of a university's commitment and success at turning out students who go into fields that provide some form of greater good to the country/world.

Oops forgot to touch on this earlier but ORD pretty much nailed it. The Washington Monthly rankings are a bit of an outlier in their methodology. Remember they state on the front page that two of the three categories they consider are Social Mobility & Service.

 

[Muck]

I've updated my composite rankings by including five additional data sets:

ACTA, HEEACT, NRC, RPI*, URAP

*The home page for the project at the University of Western Australia is currently down.

1 Stanford 1,064.2288
2 Chicago 1,028.4703
3 UCLA 1,027.6079
4 Cal 1,021.2967
5 TSUN 1,017.0929
6 Duke 1,004.6203
7 UCSD 978.5256
8 Washington 970.1518
9 Northwestern 958.2626
10 Wisconsin 943.2870
11 North Carolina 937.1023
12 Texas 934.5162
13 Illinois 915.3312
14 Minnesota 900.3620
15 Penn St. 887.6158
16 USC 880.9396
17 Ohio State 869.6767
18 Vanderbilt 850.5327
19 Florida 842.6512
20 Virginia 832.6384
21 Pittsburgh 818.2787
22 Maryland 814.0778
23 Texas A&M 802.6007
24 Rice 799.3966
25 Georgia Tech 791.2765
26 Rutgers 781.7268
27 Colorado 778.8796
28 Purdue 777.5949
29 Sparty 777.0423
30 Arizona 736.0058
31 Notre Dame 728.5660
32 Indiana 717.6750
33 Iowa 711.3699
34 Utah 682.8705
35 U Mass 664.7489
36 Miami (FL) 660.9132
37 Georgia 645.9395
38 Arizona St. 634.8041
39 Iowa St. 623.1446
40 Wake Forest 620.9182
41 Virginia Tech 606.6034
42 NC St. 600.2436
43 Missouri 578.7067
44 Tulane 575.9420
45 Buffalo 558.2233
46 Delaware 540.1368
47 Florida St. 537.9618
48 Connecticut 536.6352
49 Boston College 506.8710
50 Colorado St. 501.8128
51 Hawaii 495.7260
52 Cincinnati 494.6315
53 Kansas 491.9729
54 Kentucky 490.9875
55 Washington St. 469.6669
56 Oregon 460.6775
57 Tennessee 457.2998
58 South Carolina 453.2750
59 LSU 429.2596
60 Syracuse 426.1199
61 Oregon St. 420.7643
62 UAB 419.7633
63 Clemson 405.8384
64 Alabama 356.6381
65 Nebraska 403.9451
66 Oklahoma 385.6375
67 New Mexico 385.5684
68 South Florida 380.2629
69 BYU 368.8359
70 USAFA 339.4487
71 Auburn 332.0135
72 Houston 329.8254
73 Baylor 323.3434
74 West Point 321.9311
75 Temple 320.5701
76 Annapolis 310.0385
77 Ole Miss 307.2642
78 Louisville 301.4567
79 Kansas St. 293.5416
80 Miami (OH) 286.3207
81 Arkansas 279.3019
82 SMU 277.5609
83 Oklahoma St. 277.3093
84 San Diego St. 272.6408
85 Central Florida 263.7660
86 Utah St. 262.0414
87 Wyoming 260.3038
88 Texas Tech 253.4101
89 Mississippi St. 250.9137
90 West Virginia 248.0314
91 Ohio 238.8837
92 Georgia St. 227.2950
93 Kent St. 220.3196
94 Idaho 218.6678
95 TCU 216.1002
96 New Mexico St. 212.0485
97 Montana 209.7135
98 Nevada 197.6598
99 Florida International 188.9098
100 Tulsa 186.6445
101 Southern Miss 183.5846
102 East Carolina 181.2305
103 Texas - San Antonio 176.5782
104 Bowling Green 172.1405
105 North Texas 167.3863
106 UTEP 166.3919
107 Villanova 162.8785
108 UNLV 160.9864
109 Louisiana Tech. 157.2716
110 Northern Illinois 153.3551
111 Memphis 151.8964
112 Toledo 144.1155
113 Florida Atlantic 127.3132
114 Akron 123.9858
115 Ball St. 121.8381
116 WMU 117.4324
117 CMU 114.3946
118 Louisiana-Lafayette 105.7528
119 Fresno St 102.7415
120 South Alabama 85.0124
121 San Jose St. 79.7886
122 Appalachian St 79.1001
123 Texas St. 76.0572
124 Western Kentucky 65.5741
125 Troy 64.7308
126 Middle Tennessee 57.6493
127 BSU 45.9908
128 Arkansas St. 45.7090
129 Seattle University 42.2264
130 Louisiana-Monroe 37.7488
131 Marshall 36.6294
132 EMU 17.7076

 

[muffler dragon]

My school bustin' it up!

132 EMU 17.7076

Boom!

 

[Muck]

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/...-other-areas-correlated-football-success[/urlReport finds alumni giving among other areas correlated with football success

A win on the football field gives both fans and administrators a reason to celebrate, according to a new report that found football success increases a college’s alumni donations -- especially to athletics programs -- along with its academic reputation and the quality and quantity of applicants.

The working paper -- "The Benefits of College Athletic Success: An Application of the Propensity Score Design with Instrumental Variables" -- was published by the National Bureau for Economic Research, which has published before about the relationship between academic success and alumni giving

.../cont/...

 

[cincibuck]

Sitting at number 8 - I suspect that to be Washington University (St. Louis) and not the University of Washington, Seattle. Also note the number of California schools - Stanford, Cal, UCSD, USC ranked in the upper quarter and that doesn't take in UC Davis or UCSC - both fine schools. The report suggesting that giving is tied to athletic success is the first one I've seen to make that call. I'm suspicious especially as I believe that Chicago, Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Penn, Princeton still lead despite their leaving the upper echelons of competitive athletics.

 

[Muck]

Sitting at number 8 - I suspect that to be Washington University (St. Louis) and not the University of Washington, Seattle.

If you are referring to my composite rankings it is the Washington Huskies. Ironically they also are at #8 in the most recent Washington Monthly rankings (Wash. St. Louis is at 39).

With a few notable exceptions (Chicago, UCSD, Delaware etc) my rankings only count Div 1A football schools. Although I don't post the information for non-1A schools (again with a few exceptions) UW was ranked higher than WUSL in most of the various ranking systems. Keep in mind my list was initially conceived to help identify good fits for the B1G so research performance is a major factor which pushes schools with a more undergraduate focus down a bit.

I will have an updated list after the new Times Higher Education rankings are released on Oct 3. I have added several additional data sets in the new rankings and removed the non 1A schools such as Chicago and several IAA schools that are likely targets to move up to the 1A level to an addendum to help eliminate confusion..

The report suggesting that giving is tied to athletic success is the first one I've seen to make that call. I'm suspicious especially as I believe that Chicago, Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, Penn, Princeton still lead despite their leaving the upper echelons of competitive athletics.

If you read the whole study you'll see that Dr. Anderson did go to lengths to ensure he was limiting his study the effects of athletic success when 'all else is equal'. He freely admits there are other factors that influence alumni donations and was specifically trying to keep the study apples to apples.

That being said would the University of Chicago alums donate even more if their school still had Div1A teams that were successfully competing against Ohio State & TSUN each year? The study implies the answer is yes.

 

[Muck]

Updated with additional data sets:
CWUR, IPRHEI, Leiden, Parchment & SIR

ARWU, Forbes, MUP, QS, THE, USNWR & Washington Monthly were also updated with their latest rankings.

1 Stanford 1508.1596
2 Cal 1438.9787
3 UCLA 1406.2244
4 Duke 1391.0755
5 TSUN 1380.7570
6 Northwestern 1350.3192
7 Wisconsin 1347.1368
8 Washington 1336.6143
9 Texas 1318.6290
10 North Carolina 1272.3637
11 Illinois 1253.4872
12 Minnesota 1231.3986
13 USC 1206.3888
14 Ohio State 1188.2804
15 Georgia Tech 1179.6399
16 Vanderbilt 1159.5158
17 Penn St. 1149.3896
18 Virginia 1128.4918
19 Purdue 1112.1102
20 Pittsburgh 1104.9044
21 Florida 1098.2724
22 Rice 1097.4030
23 Maryland 1085.3163
24 Texas A&M 1085.2718
25 Colorado 1070.6262
26 Sparty 1066.0273
27 Notre Dame 1017.9417
28 Arizona 1008.7879
29 Rutgers 985.5317
30 Utah 970.3064
31 Indiana 937.6816
32 Iowa 937.1647
33 Georgia 869.2267
34 Miami (FL) 867.0165
35 Arizona St. 846.2866
36 NC St. 820.1705
37 U Mass 797.7497
38 Virginia Tech 781.5183
39 Iowa St. 757.1580
40 Wake Forest 756.6680
41 Connecticut 724.0432
42 Missouri 718.3004
43 Tulane 718.0628
44 Cincinnati 716.2576
45 Florida St. 714.1528
46 Buffalo 709.1601
47 Colorado St. 681.2003
48 Kansas 642.6922
49 Boston College 637.2450
50 Tennessee 637.1033
51 South Carolina 630.5778
52 Hawaii 622.7084
53 Oklahoma 605.9622
54 Oregon St. 605.6442
55 New Mexico 604.9492
56 Kentucky 598.1895
57 Syracuse 563.0363
58 Oregon 562.5180
59 UAB 554.5952
60 BYU 547.9338
61 Washington St. 546.2949
62 LSU 541.5464
63 Clemson 530.0574
64 South Florida 521.9056
65 Nebraska 521.5648
66 Army 518.8276
67 Alabama 514.1353
68 Navy 510.6111
69 Central Florida 490.2204
70 Houston 475.8880
71 Air Force 463.3477
72 Texas Tech 455.7067
73 Auburn 449.1348
74 Temple 445.3956
75 Baylor 441.6534
76 San Diego St. 432.8808
77 SMU 431.1580
78 Kansas St. 423.8273
79 Louisville 423.3505
80 Ole Miss 419.2595
81 Wyoming 416.7965
82 West Virginia 412.5111
83 Miami (OH) 394.4083
84 Oklahoma St. 372.8754
85 Arkansas 365.0029
86 Nevada - Reno 362.2354
87 Utah St. 353.5676
88 Toledo 320.0609
89 North Texas 312.0427
90 UNC-Charlotte 311.2408
91 Florida International 309.2417
92 Mississippi St. 307.1069
93 New Mexico St. 304.8031
94 Georgia St. 304.5158
95 UTSA 302.4223
96 Ohio U 299.2098
97 Idaho 293.5137
98 UNLV 280.8629
99 TCU 280.3350
100 UTEP 276.9902
101 Northern Illinois 265.8710
102 Kent St. 265.5975
103 Bowling Green 265.5161
104 Memphis 263.9761
105 WMU 260.7164
106 Southern Miss 251.4007
107 ECU 248.4119
108 Old Dominion 241.0109
109 Tulsa 221.7547
110 Louisiana Tech. 212.2370
111 Florida Atlantic 208.8644
112 South Alabama 208.0876
113 Akron 196.7278
114 Ball St. 180.5617
115 Louisiana-Lafayette 177.1883
116 San Jose St. 166.6809
117 Middle Tennessee 158.4658
118 CMU 158.4392
119 Texas St. 126.5649
120 Fresno St 118.7415
121 Western Kentucky 83.7279
122 Boise St. 71.4831
123 Arkansas St. 45.7090
124 Troy 39.8077
125 Louisiana-Monroe 37.7488
126 Marshall 36.6294
127 EMU 20.4768


Non FBS of note:
Chicago 1439.1727
UCSD 1327.6624
Delaware 715.9359
Villanova 288.4836
Appalachian St. 103.5462
Youngstown St. 8.4000

 

[BuckeyeSoldier]

Interesting things I noticed in your list.

TCU brings up the rear in terms of BCS conferences being ranked 99#

Next year Boise will hold that honor being ranked 122#

Average rankings for conferences (or what they will look like in 2013)
BIG: 20.4
PAC: 26.5
ACC: 31.9
SEC: 53.7
Tex: 63.9
East: 67.5

Adding Mizzou and A&M gave the SEC its 3rd and 5th top members, improving their score by 3.5 points.

Adding Nebraska dropped the BIG score by 4.3 points

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

You need to put Chicago back into the main ranking. Aside from personal reasons, it will break up the fact that the top three are all in California.

 

[Muck]

Decided to split the various rankings between the ones that are more undergraduate focused & the ones that are primarily based on research to see how the different metrics affect various schools.

2012 Composite Undergrad Rank
1 Stanford 505.9056
2 Duke 478.2031
3 Cal 475.3048
4 UCLA 474.4930
5 TSUN 469.2826
6 Texas 451.6832
7 North Carolina 444.5081
8 Northwestern 443.2945
9 Wisconsin 440.5119
10 Illinois 439.1948
11 Virginia 437.8621
12 Washington 435.5730
13 Notre Dame 428.5526
14 Vanderbilt 426.0654
15 USC 418.5930
16 Rice 417.8047
17 Florida 411.4494
18 Texas A&M 402.5736
19 Georgia Tech 398.7873
20 Ohio State 387.6417
21 Army 385.9103
22 Minnesota 381.8273
23 Navy 379.9551
24 Sparty 372.0320
25 Georgia 368.8126
26 Air Force 368.2692
27 Purdue 364.6763
28 Maryland 363.5113
29 Syracuse 357.8434
30 Penn St. 351.3016
31 Tulane 349.1157
32 Boston College 348.7251
33 Virginia Tech 348.6637
34 Indiana 347.8696
35 Rutgers 338.2730
36 Pittsburgh 337.1097
37 Colorado 335.9416
38 BYU 329.1230
39 Wake Forest 329.0344
40 NC St. 326.0779
41 Florida St. 323.5936
42 Connecticut 315.2284
43 Utah 307.0247
44 Miami (FL) 302.4342
45 Iowa 300.6450
46 Oklahoma 299.9976
47 Clemson 299.5417
48 Arizona 292.1822
49 Missouri 285.3285
50 Arizona St. 279.3271
51 Miami (OH) 272.1919
52 Iowa St. 272.1065
53 South Carolina 269.5858
54 Kansas 264.1719
55 U Mass 263.0575
56 Alabama 257.3132
57 Colorado St. 256.9708
58 Baylor 256.6064
59 Oregon 252.5281
60 Auburn 250.3402
61 SMU 250.0610
62 Buffalo 246.3879
63 Wyoming 242.4119
64 Oregon St. 228.2827
65 Texas Tech 226.8995
66 West Virginia 225.2063
67 Central Florida 219.7937
68 Tennessee 217.5248
69 TCU 212.7942
70 Ole Miss 211.9704
71 San Diego St. 208.7410
72 Washington St. 208.5561
73 Kentucky 208.3410
74 Temple 208.2489
75 Nebraska 207.2150
76 New Mexico 197.0342
77 LSU 194.0446
78 Cincinnati 193.1015
79 Utah St. 191.4252
80 Hawaii 189.6888
81 Nevada - Reno 184.0434
82 Oklahoma St. 182.6615
83 Kansas St. 181.8368
84 Louisville 176.0708
85 Toledo 170.0026
86 Idaho 169.3320
87 UTEP 166.6303
88 Bowling Green 166.1098
89 North Texas 164.8586
90 Mississippi St. 164.7691
91 Tulsa 163.7278
92 Florida International 160.7318
93 WMU 160.6415
94 Arkansas 157.9174
95 Houston 156.8037
96 UAB 156.5851
97 South Florida 154.3328
98 New Mexico St. 153.5579
99 Ohio U 153.1124
100 Georgia St. 149.8528
101 UNC-Charlotte 147.0646
102 UNLV 140.5139
103 Southern Miss 140.4994
104 Northern Illinois 136.6649
105 Memphis 134.2897
106 ECU 119.3467
107 Ball St. 116.5523
108 Old Dominion 115.4432
109 Middle Tennessee 110.1666
110 Louisiana Tech. 105.4125
111 South Alabama 98.8252
112 Louisiana-Lafayette 95.1050
113 Kent St. 90.8592
114 CMU 88.7733
115 Florida Atlantic 87.3374
116 UTSA 85.2849
117 San Jose St. 70.4423
118 Akron 69.6409
119 Fresno St 63.6731
120 Texas St. 33.0577
121 Western Kentucky 23.8846
122 Troy 21.0577
123 Arkansas St. 18.7500
124 Louisiana-Monroe 18.7500
125 Marshall 6.2500
126 Boise St. 5.3846
127 EMU 4.3077

 

[Muck]

2012 Composite Research Rankings
1 Stanford 989.7540
2 Cal 963.6739
3 UCLA 919.2313
4 Northwestern 900.7747
5 TSUN 898.9744
6 Washington 894.7912
7 Wisconsin 894.1248
8 Duke 894.1224
9 Texas 848.1958
10 Minnesota 837.0713
11 North Carolina 821.6055
12 Illinois 808.0424
13 Penn St. 791.8379
14 Ohio State 788.1387
15 USC 775.2958
16 Georgia Tech 762.1026
17 Pittsburgh 761.5447
18 Purdue 741.1839
19 Vanderbilt 727.2004
20 Colorado 722.1846
21 Maryland 715.5550
22 Arizona 710.3558
23 Virginia 684.3797
24 Sparty 681.4953
25 Rice 679.5983
26 Florida 674.3229
27 Texas A&M 663.9482
28 Utah 650.7817
29 Rutgers 641.0087
30 Iowa 617.7697
31 Indiana 577.3120
32 Notre Dame 570.6391
33 Arizona St. 554.4596
34 Miami (FL) 545.8323
35 U Mass 528.4422
36 Cincinnati 523.1560
37 NC St. 481.5926
38 Georgia 475.4142
39 Iowa St. 472.5515
40 Buffalo 450.2722
41 Missouri 420.4719
42 Virginia Tech 420.3547
43 Wake Forest 415.1336
44 Hawaii 414.2696
45 Colorado St. 411.7295
46 New Mexico 401.6649
47 Tennessee 400.8285
48 Connecticut 396.3148
49 UAB 379.2601
50 Kentucky 377.3484
51 Florida St. 371.8093
52 Oregon St. 371.1115
53 South Florida 361.3228
54 Kansas 359.7703
55 Tulane 356.4471
56 South Carolina 348.4920
57 LSU 335.0018
58 Washington St. 325.2388
59 Oregon 303.7400
60 Nebraska 301.8498
61 Houston 300.3344
62 Oklahoma 287.2146
63 Boston College 269.7699
64 Central Florida 251.6767
65 Alabama 238.0720
66 Louisville 234.7797
67 Temple 230.8966
68 Kansas St. 229.4905
69 Clemson 211.7657
70 Texas Tech 210.0572
71 San Diego St. 205.3897
72 BYU 200.0608
73 Syracuse 192.6929
74 UTSA 192.1374
75 Navy 188.9060
76 Ole Miss 188.5391
77 Arkansas 188.3355
78 Auburn 180.0446
79 Army 179.9173
80 West Virginia 174.8047
81 Oklahoma St. 171.4639
82 SMU 162.3470
83 Kent St. 162.2383
84 Baylor 160.0469
85 Nevada - Reno 159.4421
86 Wyoming 155.6346
87 UNC-Charlotte 151.6762
88 Utah St. 149.6424
89 Florida International 142.2598
90 New Mexico St. 138.7452
91 Georgia St. 135.9129
92 Ohio U 133.5974
93 Air Force 132.0785
94 Toledo 131.3083
95 Mississippi St. 129.8378
96 North Texas 128.4341
97 Northern Illinois 122.9561
98 UNLV 121.5990
99 Idaho 117.9316
100 ECU 116.5652
101 Akron 114.5869
102 Old Dominion 113.0677
103 Memphis 110.9363
104 Miami (OH) 109.7164
105 Florida Atlantic 109.0270
106 WMU 93.8249
107 Bowling Green 93.1562
108 Southern Miss 92.1512
109 UTEP 91.6100
110 South Alabama 90.5124
111 Louisiana Tech. 88.0745
112 San Jose St. 77.4886
113 Texas St. 74.7572
114 Boise St. 66.0985
115 CMU 63.4159
116 Louisiana-Lafayette 63.3333
117 TCU 55.0408
118 Ball St. 51.5095
119 Western Kentucky 47.3433
120 Tulsa 45.5269
121 Fresno St 36.3184
122 Middle Tennessee 29.5493
123 Marshall 24.1294
124 EMU 16.1692
125 Arkansas St. 8.2090
126 Louisiana-Monroe 0.2488
127 Troy 0.0000
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[MililaniBuckeye]

World University Rankings for 2013

OK, I searched and searched for the thread that showed U.S. World Report's ranking of colleges and universities (searched "college", "university", "rankings", "world") and couldn't find it. So, here's a link to the CWUR: WORLD UNIVERSITY RANKINGS 2013.

The B1G represents well, with seven in the top 52 and eight in the top 100 universities in the world:

23. Wisconsin
24. Illinois
28. Northwestern
32. Michigan
38. Purdue
50. Penn State
52. Ohio State
85. Indiana

 

[Bucky32]

Surprised to see Illinois that high. Do they usually do that well in this type of thing?