Will OSU ever lose to an Ohio team?

[cincibuck]

Why should Cincinnati get to be our "rival" in-state game over any other Ohio I-A team? Oh, that's right, you're also a Cincinnati fan...

Well because you can get there which is something that can't be said for Athens and Oxford. Because there's a 65K stadium there which can't be said for Toledo or Bowling Green and because no one wants to go to Kent State. How's that? Seriously, Cincinnati is vital recruiting territory for OSU and if left alone the locals will drift off to Michigan and Notre Dame. Why do capital ships visit foreign ports? To show the flag, to prove you can get there if you want to , to force the locals to recognize who you are.

I think a regular game against an in state opponent is bull shit, but as others have indicated that's a card the school was dealt by state government. Playing games in Cincinnati and Cleveland helps sell the program state wide.

 

[jwinslow]

Seriously, Cincinnati is vital recruiting territory for OSU and if left alone the locals will drift off to Michigan and Notre Dame.

OSU plays two hours from Cincinnati kids. Playing in their hometown isn't going to stop them from going to Michigan if that's what they want to do.

I think a regular game against an in state opponent is bull shit, but as others have indicated that's a card the school was dealt by state government. Playing games in Cincinnati and Cleveland helps sell the program state wide.

You don't get to invite any kids to an away or neutral site, IIRC.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

To be fair, they are currently the only other BCS-conf school at the moment.

This is only their fifth season in the Big East, and the Big East right now is hardly worth the title of BCS conference. Here is their all-time records against the other I-A teams from Ohio (other than Ohio State):

Akron: 3-2-0
Bowling Green: 0-4-0
Kent State: 5-0-0
Miami: 47-59-7
Ohio: 23-23-4
Toledo: 4-2-0

TOTAL: 82-90-11

Eight games under .500 against the non-BCS conference Ohio schools. Sorry, but their heritage suggests they are no more worhty of being our "in-state rival" than any other I-A Ohio team.

 

[Kenshin]

This is only their fifth season in the Big East, and the Big East right now is hardly worth the title of BCS conference. Here is their all-time records against the other I-A teams from Ohio (other than Ohio State):

Akron: 3-2-0
Bowling Green: 0-4-0
Kent State: 5-0-0
Miami: 47-59-7
Ohio: 23-23-4
Toledo: 4-2-0

TOTAL: 82-90-11

Eight games under .500 against the non-BCS conference Ohio schools. Sorry, but their heritage suggests they are no more worhty of being our "in-state rival" than any other I-A Ohio team.

And in typical Milli style you cut off the rest of my post where I said being in the Big East was the only thing they had going for them.

Also, they're still in the BCS conference. Your meaningless post didn't change that sadly.

 

[TooTall]

Ohio State has gotten away with playing most of them at home (their last game against Toledo was at Cleveland Browns Stadium) so they were not given a fair shake at the upset.

The thing is, Ohio State (in recent years) has played better on the road, than in the Horseshoe!

 

[Mike80]

Well because you can get there which is something that can't be said for Athens and Oxford. Because there's a 65K stadium there which can't be said for Toledo or Bowling Green and because no one wants to go to Kent State. How's that? Seriously, Cincinnati is vital recruiting territory for OSU and if left alone the locals will drift off to Michigan and Notre Dame. Why do capital ships visit foreign ports? To show the flag, to prove you can get there if you want to , to force the locals to recognize who you are.

If those kids don't already realize who Ohio State is (or don't care which is MUCH MUCH MUCH more likely), that's not a result of NOT playing in Cincinnati.

I think a regular game against an in state opponent is bull shit, but as others have indicated that's a card the school was dealt by state government. Playing games in Cincinnati and Cleveland helps sell the program state wide.

Except there really isn't any in-state rivalries right now.

 

[cincibuck]

If those kids don't already realize who Ohio State is (or don't care which is MUCH MUCH MUCH more likely), that's not a result of NOT playing in Cincinnati.

If you haven't lived in Cincinnati then you probably don't understand the media situation and thus the mind set of many of the folks who follow football here.

Unlike the Dayton, Toledo, Cleveland/Akron area media who follow OSU and make it a regular beat, the media here ignore the Buckeyes. There are exceptions: When the Buckeyes are in an NC game, when Notre Dame really sucks or when a kid from OSU screws up.

It's hard to express just how "un-Ohio" (and thus unaligned with Ohio State) this city is and has been. Walk around and you see more Kentucky, UC, Miami and Notre Dame spirit wear than you do Ohio State. These folks have no idea what it is you're talking about when you mention "Script Ohio" and "Hang on Sloopy" is just a bad song from the sixties. Try and get the radio broadcast of OSU down here. You can hear every play loud and clear in Belpre, Port Clinton, or East Palestine, but you have to find a station in Hamilton, 30 miles north, to get the Bucks in Cincinnati -- All of that changes when the Buckeyes play UC. Suddenly they're news. Suddenly the news covers their games before and after the UC game. Suddenly you see clips of OSU in the local sports show. suddenly the Ohio State game gets mention on the sports talk radio shows.

That's why I feel that playing UC, and especially playing them in PBS, is a good idea.

 

[Silent Nature]

I just called bull[censored] but the line was busy.

Wow, you got all [censored]y about this?

Come on, do you all think that if Cincinnati or Ohio played Ohio State 81 straight years and Ohio State will win every single one of them?

All it takes is a bad game to lose. Ohio State barely beat Cincinnati in 2002 and that was our National Championship year. Also, Ohio Bobcats almost came up with a colossal upset last year.

I'm a very passionate Ohio State fan, but all this took is some rational thinking. It seems like you are being a huge homer and think that OSU wouldn't have lost to Cincinnati at least once in 81 straight years.

The "streak" started in 1921...how many times have Ohio State played Cincinnati since then?

1931 Oct. 3 Cincinnati W, 67-6 H
1999 12 Sep. 25 Cincinnati W, 34-20 H
2002 6 Sep. 21 Cincinnati W, 23-19 Played at Paul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, OH
2004 9 Sep. 4 Cincinnati W, 27-6 H
2006 1 Sep. 16 Cincinnati W, 37-7

We only played them 5 times (4 of them came in after 1999)...that is not enough to make a rational decision that they would have not lost to them in 81 consecutive years. That is being way too biased.

1999 13 Sep. 18 Ohio W, 40-16 H
2008 3 Sep.6 Ohio W, 26-14 H

We only played Ohio twice ever since 1921. They almost had the Buckeyes beaten last season. Again, that is not conclusive.

2000 15 Sep. 16 Miami (OH) W, 27-16 H
2005 6 Sep. 3 Miami (OH) W, 34-14 H

Again, we only played Miami (OH) twice. That makes it 9 times that Ohio State played average football schools in Ohio since 1921 and we're calling that we would have been impossible to be beat ever since. Come on now...

Crazy that it hasn't happened in the last 88 years...yet I'm the one being unrealistic.

This is all just about probability. The chances of (Cincinnati, Ohio, and Miami (OH)) beating Ohio State during 1921 to present at least one out of nine chances were very low, but that does not mean impossible. The probability of an Ohio team beating Ohio State will get higher, if they keep going at this rate. Also, the parity in college football is beginning to get smaller. If Ohio State wants to make the streak more impressive, do it at least with Ohio or Cincinnati every year from now on. Right now, that special "streak" is a joke to talk about, to be honest.

Rather than playing New Mexico State or something....I'd rather see Ohio State play Cincinnati or Ohio. New Mexico State is an extremely pathetic school to play against. They might as well be worse than Youngstown State or even Mount Union.

 

[BUCKYLE]

This is all just about probability.

No. It's about you saying that tOSU doesn't have "the balls" to schedule other Ohio teams that, over the course of history, have proven that they don't fucking deserve to be scheduled.

I love how everyone arguing that it will happen keeps pointing to tOSU WINS over these schools.

 

[fanaticbuckeye]

Why does UC deserve to play us every year?

 

[Silent Nature]

No. It's about you saying that tOSU doesn't have "the balls" to schedule other Ohio teams that, over the course of history, have proven that they don't [censored]ing deserve to be scheduled.

I love how everyone arguing that it will happen keeps pointing to tOSU WINS over these schools.

Do you want me to bring out all of the teams that Ohio State have chose to play since 1921 instead of other schools in Ohio?

I will be gladly to name many opponents that does not deserve to be scheduled.

Why does UC deserve to play us every year?

They are the only other Ohio team in a BCS conference now. It will be an excellent in-state rival for Ohio State to go for. It can help Ohio State to make a much bigger impact in Cincinnati area for their recruits.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Do you want me to bring out all of the teams that Ohio State have chose to play since 1921 instead of other schools in Ohio?

I will be gladly to name many opponents that does not deserve to be scheduled.

Why don't you show me which of those schools could use a win over tOSU to then, in some measure, fuck up Ohio recruiting for Ohio St.

 

[Silent Nature]

Why don't you show me which of those schools could use a win over tOSU to then, in some measure, [censored] up Ohio recruiting for Ohio St.

Basically, you are admitting that you are wary for Ohio State to potentially lose to another Ohio team and lose some key recruits to other Ohio team.

That is my whole point. Have some balls and survive that kind of adversity. I would love to see an intrastate rival for Ohio State so we can have this other special game to look forward to. I'd love to see Ohio State beat up on Cincinnati for 10 straight years or something. That'd be a great way to show the recruits in Cincinnati area who is the undoubtedly best school in Ohio.

If Cincinnati goes undefeated this year (which is very possible, if you look at their schedule) and get to BCS bowl game to have a signature win, that will affect Ohio State's recruiting in the future. If Ohio State had scheduled against Cincinnati this year and beat them, that would have strengthen their recruiting in Ohio for the future.

 

[fanaticbuckeye]

That'd be a great way to show the recruits in Cincinnati area who is the undoubtedly best school in Ohio.

That's not even a question. One loudmouth RB and 1 and a half decent years does not provide them reasonable claim. Any thoughts otherwise is foolish.

 

[jwinslow]

That is my whole point. Have some balls and survive that kind of adversity.

Your point is ridiculous. Cinci has not proven to be any more capable of beating OSU over the last century than the other ohio schools, yet you continue to play the 'buckeyes are coward' nonsense.

That'd be a great way to show the recruits in Cincinnati area who is the undoubtedly best school in Ohio.

There is zero debate about that.

Catholic schools & the use of the TE are roadblocks in recruiting Cincinnati. OSU vs Cinci is not.

That's not even a question. One loudmouth RB and 1 and a half decent years does not provide them reasonable claim. Any thoughts otherwise is foolish.

Who didn't even have an offer.