Will OSU ever lose to an Ohio team?

[BUCKYLE]

Basically, you are admitting that you are wary for Ohio State to potentially lose to another Ohio team and lose some key recruits to other Ohio team.

That is my whole point. Have some balls and survive that kind of adversity. I would love to see an intrastate rival for Ohio State so we can have this other special game to look forward to. I'd love to see Ohio State beat up on Cincinnati for 10 straight years or something. That'd be a great way to show the recruits in Cincinnati area who is the undoubtedly best school in Ohio.

No. My point is that it's a no fucking win situtation for tOSU. Fuck intrastate rivals. Beating Bearcat ass for 10 straight years isn't a fucking rivalry! Recruits in Cincinnati, Cleveland, Newark, Idaho, Egypt and Antarctica know who the best fucking school in Ohio is. That's why almost none of them go to Cincinnati or BGSU when they have a tOSU offer.

I don't want tOSU to use the history and tradition of OUR program to pull some other school that didn't make the same investment up out of the fuckin' gutter. Let them build a 100,000 seat stadium. Then the Bucks can go play there...and fill it with our fans. 'Till then, they really need to pipe down. Children should be seen and not heard.

 

[cincibuck]

Why does UC deserve to play us every year?

They don't.

But if the Buckeyes have to play an Ohio team anyway to keep the politicians happy then UC should be on a regular rotation. An occasional visit to PBS could have a positive effect on recruiting in my opinion. Why? Because it would force the local media to cover OSU, something they have never done on a consistent basis.

I'd much rather see UC on the schedule that Youngstown, Troy, Northern Illinois to mention just a few of the recent visitors.

 

[Silent Nature]

We all have different opinions on this kind of situation. It is not my intention to make insults to you guys. We all agree to disagree.

Now, let's go out and see the Buckeyes play a good solid game of football against Illinois!

 

[Mike80]

If you haven't lived in Cincinnati then you probably don't understand the media situation and thus the mind set of many of the folks who follow football here.

Unlike the Dayton, Toledo, Cleveland/Akron area media who follow OSU and make it a regular beat, the media here ignore the Buckeyes. There are exceptions: When the Buckeyes are in an NC game, when Notre Dame really sucks or when a kid from OSU screws up.

It's hard to express just how "un-Ohio" (and thus unaligned with Ohio State) this city is and has been. Walk around and you see more Kentucky, UC, Miami and Notre Dame spirit wear than you do Ohio State. These folks have no idea what it is you're talking about when you mention "Script Ohio" and "Hang on Sloopy" is just a bad song from the sixties. Try and get the radio broadcast of OSU down here. You can hear every play loud and clear in Belpre, Port Clinton, or East Palestine, but you have to find a station in Hamilton, 30 miles north, to get the Bucks in Cincinnati -- All of that changes when the Buckeyes play UC. Suddenly they're news. Suddenly the news covers their games before and after the UC game. Suddenly you see clips of OSU in the local sports show. suddenly the Ohio State game gets mention on the sports talk radio shows.

That's why I feel that playing UC, and especially playing them in PBS, is a good idea.

Fuck the Cincinnati media. Really.

They feed the city's sports inferiority complex. Most of them barely are literate in sports terms (specifically Jeff Piecoro) and the rest of them shouldn't allow any of the idiot retard callers on the air.

It was only just recently that Dayton's sports radio cut the cord from the Cincy idiots.

 

[Mike80]

Basically, you are admitting that you are wary for Ohio State to potentially lose to another Ohio team and lose some key recruits to other Ohio team.

That is my whole point. Have some balls and survive that kind of adversity. I would love to see an intrastate rival for Ohio State so we can have this other special game to look forward to. I'd love to see Ohio State beat up on Cincinnati for 10 straight years or something. That'd be a great way to show the recruits in Cincinnati area who is the undoubtedly best school in Ohio.

Except Cincy isn't DESERVING of being an intra-state rival of Ohio State.

If Cincinnati goes undefeated this year (which is very possible, if you look at their schedule) and get to BCS bowl game to have a signature win, that will affect Ohio State's recruiting in the future. If Ohio State had scheduled against Cincinnati this year and beat them, that would have strengthen their recruiting in Ohio for the future.

Ohio State will destroy Cincy in 2011 and 2012. That won't have any effect what whoever is coaching Cincy at the time and his attempt at recruiting.

Cincy isn't even above .500 all-time and they don't have winning records against really any of the "other" Ohio teams except maybe Miami (OH)....

And don't look now, but playing against inept offenses is the ONLY way Cincy isn't 2-2 right now. South Florida is going to sit on Tony Pike's head all game long and WVU can score on anyone.

 

[cincibuck]

Recruits in Cincinnati, Cleveland, Newark, Idaho, Egypt and Antarctica know who the best fucking school in Ohio is. That's why almost none of them go to Cincinnati or BGSU when they have a tOSU offer.

Goes against wisdom to argue with someone who's as mad as this indicates, but: Kyle Rudolph, Buckeye offer in his pocket, went to Notre Dame. Mike Munoz, Buckeye offer, took off for Tennessee. I can give you a history of kids from Cincinnati who didn't go to OSU despite the offer. Most of them in the Bruce era, but some during Cooper and some during Tressel.

I'll gladly agree with you that playing in-state rivals is a no win situation, but if you think that everyone would give his left nut to be a Buckeye... well

 

[fanaticbuckeye]

Goes against wisdom to argue with someone who's as mad as this indicates, but: Kyle Rudolph, Buckeye offer in his pocket, went to Notre Dame. Mike Munoz, Buckeye offer, took off for Tennessee. I can give you a history of kids from Cincinnati who didn't go to OSU despite the offer. Most of them in the Bruce era, but some during Cooper and some during Tressel.

I'll gladly agree with you that playing in-state rivals is a no win situation, but if you think that everyone would give his left nut to be a Buckeye... well

I'm pretty sure Buckyle's point was they didn't go to another in state school. I am not sure your point disproves his. I get that we are going to lose in state kids occasionally, but we won't lose them to an in state school because we've been usurped as the best team in Ohio.

 

[jwinslow]

Goes against wisdom to argue with someone who's as mad as this indicates, but: Kyle Rudolph, Buckeye offer in his pocket, went to Notre Dame.

Ronald Johnson went to Southern California. It doesn't refute the fact that Michigan is the best school in Michigan, nor does your example make much sense here.

 

[BUCKYLE]

Goes against wisdom to argue with someone who's as mad as this indicates, but: Kyle Rudolph, Buckeye offer in his pocket, went to Notre Dame. Mike Munoz, Buckeye offer, took off for Tennessee. I can give you a history of kids from Cincinnati who didn't go to OSU despite the offer. Most of them in the Bruce era, but some during Cooper and some during Tressel.

I'll gladly agree with you that playing in-state rivals is a no win situation, but if you think that everyone would give his left nut to be a Buckeye... well

I wasn't mad. Just annoyed. You can't call someone out for not having "balls" when they just played one of the top three programs over the last decade.

Then the argument was made that while Cinci didn't "deserve" a yearly match with the Buckeyes, neither did the other cupcakes tOSU schedules. Yet, not a single one of those teams are a yearly matchup, as the poster wants to see with tOSU/Cinci.

My point with that post was that tOSU hasn't lost more than a few in state recruits that they offered to another Ohio School in my lifetime. Playing any Ohio school on a yearly basis, and ESPECIALLY at their rinky dink fucking stadium, legitimizes their program to a level which only Ohio State deserves in the state of Ohio.

tOSU doesn't need to single handedly pull another Ohio college from the gutter only to then have to battle over recruits with that school. It would be...forgive my frankness...fucking retarded.

 

[Jaxbuck]

We all have different opinions on this kind of situation. It is not my intention to make insults to you guys. We all agree to disagree.

When I want to engage in a healthy, respectful debate I often question the oppositions "balls" in the first couple of lines of my argument. I find it really helps keep things on an even keel.

Speaking of a lack of testicular fortitude, going from a "grow some balls and schedule UC" post to a "I didn't mean any disrespect/we can all agree to disagree" post is just funny as hell to me.

 

[Silent Nature]

When I want to engage in a healthy, respectful debate I often question the oppositions "balls" in the first couple of lines of my argument. I find it really helps keep things on an even keel.

Speaking of a lack of testicular fortitude, going from a "grow some balls and schedule UC" post to a "I didn't mean any disrespect/we can all agree to disagree" post is just funny as hell to me.

I never say that I want to see Cincinnati to win because I would never want to see that ever...not even in my lifetime!

 

[Mike80]

Ohio State can still go out and try to smash up Cincinnati some more then they can have amazing large balls! I never say that I want to see Cincinnati to win because I would never want to see that ever...not even in my lifetime!

 

[jlb1705]

Ohio State can still go out and try to smash up Cincinnati some more then they can have amazing large balls!

 

[Silent Nature]

Pardon me for my obscure statement. I tend to overuse the term (balls) with a lot of things that I say.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Cincinnati has not come remotely close to deserving a yearly "rivalry" game with Ohio State. I'm sorry, but two or three decent seasons under a coach who'll most likely be gone in the next 24 months does not make Cincy a national power or even a top 25 program. For most of their history, they've sucked at football. EVen now, they can't fill that little bandbox of a stadium, yet we're supposed to automatically elevate them to the same level as an all-time top 5 program?

Screw that. In the larger scheme of things, UC is no different than OU or Bowling Green or Fredo of Ohio, all of whom have had their little 3-5 year windows of success.

Cincy can continue to take their spot on the Horseshoe in-state payday rotation, or they can walk away and cry about the injustice of it all. Makes no difference to me.