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What's Wrong With the 2013 Defense?

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What's Wrong With the 2013 Defense?

  • Talent / Players

    Votes: 29 11.8%

  • Scheme / Coaching

    Votes: 127 51.8%

  • Both are substandard

    Votes: 71 29.0%

  • Neither - B1G offenses are unstoppable

    Votes: 10 4.1%

  • I don't care - just fire Fickell!

    Votes: 8 3.3%
  • Total voters
    245
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ysubuck said:
That's an awful lot of youth out there at one time don't you think? For a defense that reportedly requires a ton of thinking and understanding of scheme. One thing that will negate athleticism more quickly than anything is having to think about your assignment.
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So lets make it more read and react and just basic for them. Why does it have to be that difficult if this is a huge issue, which it appears to be?
 
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Taosman said:
Not necessarily. Competition not default will determine who's best at positions and that will make the whole defense better. And the level of competition will be off the charts. And God only knows it won't take a lot to show significant improvement over what we have seen the last 2 years. Play their assignments better and tackle better. The defense doesn't need to be lights out better to make this a much better team.
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Ok. This same silly conversation happens every year where the next batch of "all world" kids shows up and folks start clambering for these kids to start. I stand by the statement that if all these incoming freshman play major roles, we've got even worse problems than we had this year.
 
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I do not believe we put the players in the best situations to make plays by our defensive scheme and alignment. When you are playing cover 2 and need to collision the receiver, it is harder to do 5 yards off vs in the receivers jock. As many times as I have seen multiple DBs play the man vs the ball and never turn their head at all makes me think they are being coached to play that way. There were just too many times I saw that happen for it to be merely the player making a mistake by not reading the receivers eyes.

You just can't line up the way did on several occasions and expect success on defense. One of the ichigan TDs comes to mind when we had no one outside of the RE, sure enough a simple toss sweep and the back walked in from about 12 yards out. As soon as we lined up I started shouting at the tv before the ball was even snapped "you can't line up like that" and there they went. Maybe it was a blown assignment? Maybe not since I saw it more than once during the season. Same with the TDs on the goal line where receivers were more than WAO, no one within 20 yards of them at times like Clemson and ichigan. Definitely blown assignments there, we had to be in man, which means 5 guys need to be accounted for by our defense and we only accounted for 4. The only reason I can think of is lack of communication and lack of preparation. The Clemson receiver went in motion for crying out loud. It wasn't like it was the TE faking a block and laying on the ground then getting up to catch the throw back.

We do not give our athletes the best chance to make plays, and I would suggest we actually do the opposite and put them in situations were it is nearly impossible to make a play. We played off so far all season every team we played just flooded the flat or threw a hitch screen that went for 5 yards or more. It was embarrassing to me.

We didn't exactly play the toughest schedule in the country and we ranked what 110 in the nation vs the pass? Do we really have the 110th ranked talent in the nation back there with two kids that will be 1st rounders, Roby and Shazier.
 
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Hstead said:
I do not believe we put the players in the best situations to make plays by our defensive scheme and alignment. When you are playing cover 2 and need to collision the receiver, it is harder to do 5 yards off vs in the receivers jock. As many times as I have seen multiple DBs play the man vs the ball and never turn their head at all makes me think they are being coached to play that way. There were just too many times I saw that happen for it to be merely the player making a mistake by not reading the receivers eyes.

You just can't line up the way did on several occasions and expect success on defense. One of the ichigan TDs comes to mind when we had no one outside of the RE, sure enough a simple toss sweep and the back walked in from about 12 yards out. As soon as we lined up I started shouting at the tv before the ball was even snapped "you can't line up like that" and there they went. Maybe it was a blown assignment? Maybe not since I saw it more than once during the season. Same with the TDs on the goal line where receivers were more than WAO, no one within 20 yards of them at times like Clemson and ichigan. Definitely blown assignments there, we had to be in man, which means 5 guys need to be accounted for by our defense and we only accounted for 4. The only reason I can think of is lack of communication and lack of preparation. The Clemson receiver went in motion for crying out loud. It wasn't like it was the TE faking a block and laying on the ground then getting up to catch the throw back.

We do not give our athletes the best chance to make plays, and I would suggest we actually do the opposite and put them in situations were it is nearly impossible to make a play. We played off so far all season every team we played just flooded the flat or threw a hitch screen that went for 5 yards or more. It was embarrassing to me.

We didn't exactly play the toughest schedule in the country and we ranked what 110 in the nation vs the pass? Do we really have the 110th ranked talent in the nation back there with two kids that will be 1st rounders, Roby and Shazier.
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Yup, at some point you have to let the kids play.
 
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We needed to play the some of the young guys earlier, especially Bell and look what happens when he finally got a chance made a big play. Yes he gave up a TD but he thought he had help over the top, and maybe if he played more during the yr. it wouldn't have happened. Burrows should have got PT as well as when he played in that one game he actually turned his head and looked for the ball twice unlike all the other CBs. Are they taught not to look for it cuz wow none of them turn their head, they play the man instead of the ball and boy it gets frustrating.
Also the whole Clemson game and the WR screen that was automatic 10+ yards for them. After a while you can't just sit back and let them call that play all day on you, you need to put the CBs closer to the LOS instead of 10 yards off. If you don't want burned deep fine you can still keep it cover 1 or cover 2 with the S back.
 
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