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tOSU TV Viewing/ESPN GamePlan?

DaytonBuck;631914; said:
I think the difference is that JP and Raycom are syndicated programs picked up networks and the Big Ten Network is its own channel

JP and Raycom are their own networks, and contracted with the ACC to broadcast games. Link

The "Big Ten Network" will most likely be either made up of some currently-existing small network and renamed, or will take in broadcast feeds of Big Ten games from local stations and show them under the "Big Ten Network" name. I doubt that the Big Ten is going to build a small TV network from scratch. Regardless of how the network is comprised, unless they show all teams each week, they'll have to open up some games to ESPN GamePlan or some other outlet...
 
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JP and Raycom are their own networks, and contracted with the ACC to broadcast games. Link

The "Big Ten Network" will most likely be either made up of some currently-existing small network and renamed, or will take in broadcast feeds of Big Ten games from local stations and show them under the "Big Ten Network" name. I doubt that the Big Ten is going to build a small TV network from scratch. Regardless of how the network is comprised, unless they show all teams each week, they'll have to open up some games to ESPN GamePlan or some other outlet...
actually, they are. Fox owns a 49% stake in it and is doing most of the behind the scenes work.

The Big Ten network will basically show the games that are currently televised on ESPNU, ESPN Plus, or not televised at all. ESPN and ESPN2 will still get Big Ten games to broadcast nationally, and any games broadcast on ABC regional will be simulcast on ESPN or ESPN2 to the nation outside the ABC viewing area.
 
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Lloydman posted B10 form response, here is addl. response

Even if I accept the logic in Asst. Commissioner McComiskey's response to my complaint, (I pretty much don't) it begs the question I raised in my contact. Do you have reason to suppose that the Big10 Network in 2007 is going to have an exposure west of the Rockies? Have you indications that major cable companies, such as Cox Cable which serves the Southwest are going to buy into the Network? If they do not, do you not disenfranchise tens of thousands of Big 10 alums and interested parties who live in the western one-third of the nation? Especially if there is not a Gameplan type vehicle to pick up games which may be widely shown and popular back in Big10 country.
I have subscribed to Gameplan for years and cannot remember when last an Ohio State football game not carried on ESPN or ABC nationally was not carried on Gameplan here in Nevada. I'm real sorry that perennial doormat teams like Illinois or Indiana are not attractive to ESPN. That OSU, U of M, Penn State, etc., are is a fact of life.
If you tell me the Big10 Channel is likely to be available in the Southwest, even if it is pay per view, then I will be happy. But if the western one third of the nation's cable companies prefer to focus on the Pac-10, WAC, and Mountain West for their investment dollars, then we out here are out to lunch.
I would be interested in your response to this particular issue.


"DirecTV has already signed on to broadcast the Big Ten Network as part of its Total Choice package - its most widely distributed package (reaches nearly every DirecTV customer) - which would make the channel available nationally from the first day it takes to the air. The Big Ten is well aware of the wide geographic distribution of its alumni, the Network will work aggressively to be sure that it is available in as many homes as possible, via cable, satellite and any other method possible."

Same guy.

Go Bucks!
 
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Dryden;631832; said:
Entertaining games that ESPNU has already broadcast this season:

Northwestern at Miami, OH
Akron at NC State
Youngstown State at Penn State
Cincinnati at Virginia Tech
Purdue at Iowa
Maryland at Georgia Tech

A good game that will be on ESPNU this weekend:

Cincinnati at Louisville

There were several marquee men's bball games on ESPNU last season, and they also carried under-the-radar goodies like Ohio State baseball games over the summer. Where else are you going to see that?

But ... whatever! I'm sure you're much happier with the current choices of World Series of Poker reruns on ESPN and bass fishing on ESPN2. :roll1:

Hey, that's fine--if you value watching those games and you'd like to pay for ESPNU, then go ahead and call your cable company and demand the channel. My point is simply that many people badgering their cable companies right now are those that didn't give a darn about ESPNU a week ago and won't give a darn about ESPNU a week after the OSU-IU game. Let me put it this way--if ESPNU was such a great channel that everyone wanted, why are there news reports everywhere in Ohio that say no one will be able to watch next weekend's game? It's because the consumer demand isn't there. Which leads us to my original point--ESPN will have achieved its goal by pressuring people into pressuring their cable companies into making a deal with ESPN regarding ESPNU. What I worry about is where this stops--what's to keep ESPN from creating another channel in the short future and doing this same garbage again?
 
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My only option for this seems to be a sports grill/bar. I already contacted the official Watch Party place for Indianapolis and they said they have ESPNU and it is the place to watch Buckeye football. This is my first time going to one of these Alumni/Watch Party deals. Should be fun to enjoy this game in a Buckeye friendly environment.

As been mentioned, just call up a restuarant in the area and ask if they carry ESPNU. Too bad that the game is this hidden, but there are still ways to catch it luckily.
 
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My comments to ESPNU via their website:

OSU is the #1 team in the country. Please reconsider showing the 10/21 game on ESPNU only. Either simulcast it on ESPN or ESPN2 in the Ohio area or allow local stations in Ohio to pickup the game.

Penn St-Illinois is the ESPN2 game that week and Wisconsin-Purdue is the ESPN game. Are either of these games better than showing the #1 team in the country? Will either of these games have more viewers than the OSU game would?

Thanks!

Send your comments too = http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?page=contact/espntv
 
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No OSU on TV? How could this happen?

By Marc Katz
Staff Writer

Friday, October 13, 2006
Seriously, the world isn't going to come to an end because only little-distributed ESPNU will be broadcasting Ohio State's home football game with Indiana a week from Saturday.
There will be plenty of other games to watch on the networks Time Warner Cable actually carries, and those subscribing to satellite services DirecTV and Dish Network will be able to watch. And you can listen to the game on the radio (WING-AM, 1410).
Or, you could just rake leaves or go to the mall and be certain the Buckeyes will win comfortably by four touchdowns or more.
OK, you could go to the mall and watch the game, courtesy of ESPNU, which is hosting "viewer parties" at all Buffalo Wild Wings restaurants in the state.
Allegedly, there will be 90 of these parties, and the Miami Valley has 10 locations.
That's another way to promote your brand, without getting hungry, although you might want to beware of the human "wave" depicted in the restaurant's commercials.
At first glance, this OSU game appears to be a ploy to promote ESPNU, which trails in viewership by plenty. ESPNU's household penetration is about 7 million compared to ESPN's 92.2 million.
On the other hand, how many people outside of Ohio are going to want to watch four quarters of a romp over Indiana? That's what ESPNU thought.
"Our goal for the Big Ten is to try to find a platform for every game," ESPNU Vice President and General Manager Burke Magnus said. "This is the first time we've had a No. 1 team on ESPNU, but we've already had 12 top-25 teams."
Next Saturday's "free" game on ABC features Iowa at Michigan, and who could argue with that?
Magnus also adds that ESPNU is negotiating to land a contract with cable companies such as Time Warner, which of course would make your cable bill go up.
Why not. Free has been a lost word ever since cable began, anyway.
"We have fans over here who have missed a lot of games because they don't have cable," OSU Sports Information Director Steve Snapp said from Columbus.
There are holdouts who wait for ABC to carry the Buckeyes, but alas, in some near future, I suspect even that freebie will vanish. Paying to see games is just another line in our budgets, much like $2-to-3-a-gallon gas.
You gotta have it, so you pay for it.
 
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Dispatch

No. 1 team in land banished to TV no-man?s land, fans say

Friday, October 13, 2006

Tim Feran and Nick Chordas
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

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Ohio State football fans suddenly are sweating a contest with Indiana next Saturday ? but not because the Hoosiers are expected to knock off the No. 1-ranked Buckeyes.
For the first time in nearly nine years, an Ohio State football game is not being broadcast locally on a widely available television channel.
The Indiana game is being aired only on ESPNU, which is not offered by two of central Ohio?s three major cable providers.
The inability to watch the game in the comfort of their homes has some Buckeye devotees seeing scarlet.
"Every Bucks game needs to be televised every week," said Dublin resident Steve Carpenter in a message to The Dispatch. "I don?t care if OSU was playing a pick-up game with a middle school team."
"This is a major dissing," wrote Jim Brue, of Toledo, who dubbed the channel "ESPN-U stink."
Some fans and bars responded to the news by signing up for ESPNU via satellite service or Insight Communications, the only local cable service that carries the college sports channel. Neither Time Warner Cable Columbus ? central Ohio?s dominant cable system, with more than 600,000 customers ? nor Wide Open West carries the channel.
Some fans also were disappointed to learn that the game is not available on the premium sports package ESPN GamePlan, said Time Warner Columbus spokeswoman Judy Barbao.
"ESPNU is the one and only place," she said.
Barbao said Time Warner is negotiating to carry ESPNU but does not expect a quick resolution.
"I can?t say that will happen by Oct. 21," she said.
Complicating the talks, Barbao said, is the fact that ESPN owner Disney "has a lot of other issues on the table that they are tying to ESPNU."
OSU spokesman Steve Snapp said fans should not expect the broadcasting plan to change.
"It absolutely will not change," he said. "We?ve talked to the Big Ten and ESPN and have passed along the concerns of our fans, and we understand that?s the way the situation?s headed."
Disney?s contract with the Big Ten allows the company to mix and match games with its various networks ? ABC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN360 and ESPNU, said ESPNU vice president and general manager Burke Magnus.
"In this case, we think it?s pretty justifiable which games ended up where," Magnus said. "We?re trying to serve a national audience. We understand the local furor, but the selection process is pretty standard.
"Although Ohio State is a mega-program with a No.1 ranking, it?s not an anomaly for ESPNU to have a top program on," Magnus said, citing last week?s Iowa-Purdue contest and games with Florida State and Penn State.
Even Ohio State students might be left out of the loop, Snapp said. ESPNU is not carried on the campus television system, though Snapp said the university is trying to change that in time for the game.
"We?re trying to see if we can get it to the campus, to our students and to our dorms. We?re trying to figure out how to make that happen," he said.
Snapp said fans have become accustomed to seeing games on television, but noted that the Big Ten hasn?t traditionally broadcast that many games.
"We?ve gone from a period of time when we did 10 or 12 games a year to 35 in the 1990s to 71 this year," Snapp said. "So we clearly do more than any other conference."
In 1994, seven Ohio State games were not televised at all.
Bob Lau, Insight vice president of corporate affairs, said the cable company is getting "quite a bit of response" from viewers who want to see the game.
"There?s still time, but not a lot, so I would encourage them not to wait. If they call on Oct. 21, obviously, they won?t see it."
About 40 percent of Insight?s 216,000 central Ohio customers have ESPNU, Lau said.
DirecTV spokesman Robert Mercer said he does not know how many calls the satellite company has received about the game, but that it?s common for the firm to gain subscribers because of athletic contests unavailable elsewhere.
Unless a deal is worked out, Buckeye fans will have to leave their living rooms ? meaning more business for bars and restaurants that carry ESPNU.
Many of the area?s popular game-day haunts, including the Varsity Club, Buckeye Hall of Fame Cafe, Eddie George?s Grille 27 and Damon?s Grill, will carry the game.
"For the average consumer it?s unfortunate because they?ll have to go out, but for us it will probably be a benefit," said Carl T. Howard, president and chief executive of Damon?s International.
Herb Beidel, owner of Fitzgerald?s Sports Tavern off Bethel Road, which has ESPNU, anticipates a larger crowd next weekend.
"We usually get around 100 people for Ohio State home games, but I?m expecting at least 200 for Indiana," Beidel said.
Phil Albanese, regional manager for Buffalo Wild Wings Grill & Bar, added ESPNU to a handful of the chain?s corporate stores in central Ohio on Wednesday, including the campus location on N. High Street.
"We added those locations in direct response to the Ohio State vs. Indiana game," Albanese said. "We want to show every game that we can ? especially the Ohio State ones."
Some smaller neighborhood bars won?t be as fortunate.
Zeno?s Victorian Village gets good crowds on game days, but it subscribes only to Time Warner. Owner Dick Allen said he?s holding out hope that an arrangement will be made before next Saturday.
And if not?
"I guess we?ll listen to the radio, drink heavily and imagine it," he said.
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osugrad21;632342; said:
DDN

No OSU on TV? How could this happen?

By Marc Katz
Staff Writer

Friday, October 13, 2006
Seriously, the world isn't going to come to an end because only little-distributed ESPNU will be broadcasting Ohio State's home football game with Indiana a week from Saturday.
There will be plenty of other games to watch on the networks Time Warner Cable actually carries, and those subscribing to satellite services DirecTV and Dish Network will be able to watch. And you can listen to the game on the radio (WING-AM, 1410).
Or, you could just rake leaves or go to the mall and be certain the Buckeyes will win comfortably by four touchdowns or more.
OK, you could go to the mall and watch the game, courtesy of ESPNU, which is hosting "viewer parties" at all Buffalo Wild Wings restaurants in the state.
Allegedly, there will be 90 of these parties, and the Miami Valley has 10 locations.
That's another way to promote your brand, without getting hungry, although you might want to beware of the human "wave" depicted in the restaurant's commercials.
At first glance, this OSU game appears to be a ploy to promote ESPNU, which trails in viewership by plenty. ESPNU's household penetration is about 7 million compared to ESPN's 92.2 million.
On the other hand, how many people outside of Ohio are going to want to watch four quarters of a romp over Indiana? That's what ESPNU thought.
"Our goal for the Big Ten is to try to find a platform for every game," ESPNU Vice President and General Manager Burke Magnus said. "This is the first time we've had a No. 1 team on ESPNU, but we've already had 12 top-25 teams."
Next Saturday's "free" game on ABC features Iowa at Michigan, and who could argue with that?
Magnus also adds that ESPNU is negotiating to land a contract with cable companies such as Time Warner, which of course would make your cable bill go up.
Why not. Free has been a lost word ever since cable began, anyway.
"We have fans over here who have missed a lot of games because they don't have cable," OSU Sports Information Director Steve Snapp said from Columbus.
There are holdouts who wait for ABC to carry the Buckeyes, but alas, in some near future, I suspect even that freebie will vanish. Paying to see games is just another line in our budgets, much like $2-to-3-a-gallon gas.
You gotta have it, so you pay for it.

This point seems to have some merit until you look at the two games being televised on ESPN and ESPN2 (Penn St.-Illinois, Wisconsin-Purdue). OSU-Indiana easily outdraws either of those two games from a national perspective.
 
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I couldn't help but get a laugh yesterday when this subject was brought up on Herbstreit and Hooley yesterday afternoon. Hooley basically went on to say that the OSU fans are overreacting (probably true to some extent), and that they should put everything into perspective with everything going on in the world. I agree with that statement, but does anyone else also see the irony in a sports talk radio guy lecturing that fanatical fans need to chill, when essentially those fanatical fans are a big part of his audience everyday?
 
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daddyphatsacs;632468; said:
I couldn't help but get a laugh yesterday when this subject was brought up on Herbstreit and Hooley yesterday afternoon. Hooley basically went on to say that the OSU fans are overreacting (probably true to some extent), and that they should put everything into perspective with everything going on in the world. I agree with that statement, but does anyone else also see the irony in a sports talk radio guy lecturing that fanatical fans need to chill, when essentially those fanatical fans are a big part of his audience everyday?
Nobody has ever accused Hooley of being rational.

I tend to agree with him though. Watching Buckeye games on TV is not a birthright. 118 other D1A teams are not blessed with round-the-clock TV coverage with pre-game, game, post-game coverage every single Saturday. I think OSU is really in a unique situation here. It was only ten years ago that games weren't being broadcast every single week. Occassionally, games in 1995 and 1996 weren't on TV either, and those were national championship runs too. Shit. Most people didn't have Internet, and certainly didn't have OSU message boards. Guess what? Ohio State, and their fans, survived.

Go buy a radio, tune to 1460AM, and go out and do some yard work people. Or go to a bar that does have a dish. Something. Anything. It isn't armageddon.
 
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