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A month has passed and somehow things look even better, with Wyatt Davis jumping on board and Trey Smith being a credible (but heavily contested) possibility for this class. This first breakdown is based on them missing on Smith (and Tufele)

8 ***** 12 **** 1 *** 17 top-100 4.35 avg star

***** - 12 - #1 S - Jeffrey Okudah - OSU leads , august verbal?
***** - 14 - #1 QB - Tate Martell - verbal
***** - 17 - #4 OT - Josh Myers - verbal
***** - 20 - #1 OLB - Baron Browning - OSU near top.
***** - 23 - #3 RB - Cam Akers - does OSU lead?
***** - 24 - #2 OG - Wyatt Davis - verbal
***** - 26 - #2 DE - Chase Young - Will OSU hold off Maryland and others?
***** - 15 - # 1 ILB - Anthony Hines - Might OSU lead?
**** .. - 31 - #3 WR - Tyjon Lindsey - OSU leads , august verbal?
**** .. - 32 - #2 DT - Haskell Garrett - verbal
**** .. - 46 - #4 CB - Shaun Wade - (soft) verbal
**** .. - 51 - #10 OT - Jake Moretti - verbal
**** .. - 71 - #9 WR - Trevon Grimes - OSU leads big, deciding soon
**** .. - 72 - #5 S - Isaiah Pryor - verbal
**** .. - 78 - #7 ATH - J.K. Dobbins - verbal
**** .. - 91 - #10 CB - Amir Riep - OSU once led, Sparty looming.
**** .. - 98 - #11 CB - Marcus Williamson - verbal
**** .. - 153 - #9 OLB - Brendon White - verbal
**** .. - 205 - #14 DT - Jerron Cage - verbal
**** .. - 274 - #22 OLB - Antjuan Simmons - verbal

*** .. - NR - #1 K - Blake Haubeil - verbal

Grayshirt to 2018? **** .. - NR - NR QB - Danny Clark - grayshirt? regular signee? Unknown.

Possible additions:
*****. - 06 - #2 OT - Trey Smith - OSU makes top 6, tough battle but they have a puncher's chance.
**** .. - 41 - #3 DT - Jay Tufele - keeps saying OSU leads, many skeptical but OSU in the mix.

If they add those two:
9 ***** 13 **** 1 *** 19 top-100 4.33 avg star


Next tier of prospects, downgraded based on their likelihood to sign at OSU:
***** - 01 - #1 RB - Najee Harris - likely sticks with Bama but OSU in the mix
***** - 08 - #1 CB - Darnay Holmes - likely Stanford but OSU in the mix.
***** - 09 - #1 DT - Marvin Wilson - OSU a late arrival, right in the mix, no one predicting they sign him at this point
***** - 18 - #3 CB - Lamont Wade - OSU once led big, will PA schools win?
**** .. - 61 - #4 ATH - Jamyest Williams - OSU in the mix for tough southern battle.
**** .. - 104 - #15 WR - Jaylen Harris - may wait too long to join OSU
**** .. - 149 - #8 OG - Darnell Ewell - a possible plan B at DT if a spot or two opens up.

Here was the mid-june update:
jwinslow said:
Very probable 20-man class for 2017

7 ***** 12 **** 1 *** 16 top-100 4.3 avg star


***** - 12 - #1 S - Jeffrey Okudah - OSU leads , deciding soon?
***** - 14 - #1 QB - Tate Martell - verbal
***** - 17 - #4 OT - Josh Myers - verbal
***** - 18 - #3 CB - Lamont Wade - OSU once led big, will PA schools win?
***** - 20 - #1 OLB - Baron Browning - OSU near top, coming back again this summer.
***** - 23 - #3 RB - Cam Akers - does OSU lead?
***** - 26 - #2 DE - Chase Young - Will OSU hold off Maryland and others?
**** .. - 31 - #3 WR - Tyjon Lindsey - OSU leads and will land him soon.
**** .. - 32 - #2 DT - Haskell Garrett - verbal
**** .. - 46 - #4 CB - Shaun Wade - (soft) verbal
**** .. - 51 - #10 OT - Jake Moretti - verbal
**** .. - 71 - #9 WR - Trevon Grimes - OSU leads big, deciding soon
**** .. - 72 - #5 S - Isaiah Pryor - verbal
**** .. - 78 - #7 ATH - J.K. Dobbins - verbal
**** .. - 91 - #10 CB - Amir Riep - OSU once led, Sparty looming.
**** .. - 98 - #11 CB - Marcus Williamson - verbal
**** .. - 153 - #9 OLB - Brendon White - verbal
**** .. - 205 - #14 DT - Jerron Cage - verbal
**** .. - 274 - #22 OLB - Antjuan Simmons - verbal

*** .. - NR - #1 K - Blake Haubeil - verbal

Grayshirt to 2018? **** .. - NR - NR QB - Danny Clark - grayshirt? regular signee? Unknown.

Most likely alternatives:

***** - 15 - # 1 ILB - Anthony Hines - OSU among top schools
**** .. - 61 - #4 ATH - Jamyest Williams - OSU in the mix for tough southern battle. Bill says OSU gets 1-2 of these DBs.

Next tier of prospects, downgraded based on their likelihood to sign at OSU:

***** - 01 - #1 RB - Najee Harris - likely sticks with Bama but OSU in the mix
***** - 08 - #1 CB - Darnay Holmes - likely Stanford but OSU in the mix.
***** - 09 - #1 DT - Marvin Wilson - OSU a late arrival, right in the mix, no one predicting they sign him at this point
**** .. - 41 - #3 DT - Jay Tufele - said OSU led late May. No one is predicting him to be in this class yet.
**** .. - 104 - #15 WR - Jaylen Harris - probably a buckeye if OSU pushes hard.
**** .. - 149 - #8 OG - Darnell Ewell - a possible plan B at DT if a spot or two opens up.
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jwinslow said:
A month has passed and somehow things look even better, with Wyatt Davis jumping on board and Trey Smith being a credible (but heavily contested) possibility for this class. This first breakdown is based on them missing on Smith (and Tufele)

8 ***** 12 **** 1 *** 17 top-100 4.35 avg star

***** - 12 - #1 S - Jeffrey Okudah - OSU leads , august verbal?
***** - 14 - #1 QB - Tate Martell - verbal
***** - 17 - #4 OT - Josh Myers - verbal
***** - 20 - #1 OLB - Baron Browning - OSU near top.
***** - 23 - #3 RB - Cam Akers - does OSU lead?
***** - 24 - #2 OG - Wyatt Davis - verbal
***** - 26 - #2 DE - Chase Young - Will OSU hold off Maryland and others?
***** - 15 - # 1 ILB - Anthony Hines - Might OSU lead?
**** .. - 31 - #3 WR - Tyjon Lindsey - OSU leads , august verbal?
**** .. - 32 - #2 DT - Haskell Garrett - verbal
**** .. - 46 - #4 CB - Shaun Wade - (soft) verbal
**** .. - 51 - #10 OT - Jake Moretti - verbal
**** .. - 71 - #9 WR - Trevon Grimes - OSU leads big, deciding soon
**** .. - 72 - #5 S - Isaiah Pryor - verbal
**** .. - 78 - #7 ATH - J.K. Dobbins - verbal
**** .. - 91 - #10 CB - Amir Riep - OSU once led, Sparty looming.
**** .. - 98 - #11 CB - Marcus Williamson - verbal
**** .. - 153 - #9 OLB - Brendon White - verbal
**** .. - 205 - #14 DT - Jerron Cage - verbal
**** .. - 274 - #22 OLB - Antjuan Simmons - verbal

*** .. - NR - #1 K - Blake Haubeil - verbal

Grayshirt to 2018? **** .. - NR - NR QB - Danny Clark - grayshirt? regular signee? Unknown.

Possible additions:
*****. - 06 - #2 OT - Trey Smith - OSU makes top 6, tough battle but they have a puncher's chance.
**** .. - 41 - #3 DT - Jay Tufele - keeps saying OSU leads, many skeptical but OSU in the mix.

If they add those two:
9 ***** 13 **** 1 *** 19 top-100 4.33 avg star


Next tier of prospects, downgraded based on their likelihood to sign at OSU:
***** - 01 - #1 RB - Najee Harris - likely sticks with Bama but OSU in the mix
***** - 08 - #1 CB - Darnay Holmes - likely Stanford but OSU in the mix.
***** - 09 - #1 DT - Marvin Wilson - OSU a late arrival, right in the mix, no one predicting they sign him at this point
***** - 18 - #3 CB - Lamont Wade - OSU once led big, will PA schools win?
**** .. - 61 - #4 ATH - Jamyest Williams - OSU in the mix for tough southern battle. Bill says OSU gets 1-2 of these DBs.
**** .. - 104 - #15 WR - Jaylen Harris - may wait too long to join OSU
**** .. - 149 - #8 OG - Darnell Ewell - a possible plan B at DT if a spot or two opens up.

Here was the mid-june update:
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My God, that's just filthy.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
Just curious, if it came down to an elite lineman, which side of the ball is most coveted, offense or defense right now? I'm thinking a choice of a Tufele/Wilson vs. Trey Smith as an example.
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That would be a tough decision but let's assume we are talking about a choice of Tufele or Smith because they aren't getting Wilson. I honestly think they would try to fit both into the class but I think Smith is the guy you absolutely cannot say no to.

I have Grimes, Lindsey, Young and Okudah as IN.

I like where they are at with Akers, Browning and Riep.

They have a chance with Smith, Tufele, Hines and Williams.

They aren't getting Wilson or Harris. Or DPJ for that matter.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
Just curious, if it came down to an elite lineman, which side of the ball is most coveted, offense or defense right now? I'm thinking a choice of a Tufele/Wilson vs. Trey Smith as an example.
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DT and it's not close.

Great tackles are extremely valuable but elite DTs are more rare. They're also a lot harder to find up north. The SEC comes up here regularly for OL. The south has the market cornered on DTs and that's where the true SEC speed lies.

There's also the matter of OL rankings being pretty iffy when it comes to HS recruits, arguably moreso than any other position. I don't have meaningful data to back that up but it's arguably the hardest position to scout for incredible college scouts and coaches so it makes sense that website gurus would struggle also.

Give me the team with the elite DTs all day. I can get by with Darryl Baldwin at RT (and frankly they win another NC last year if he had another year). I can't get by with Darryl Baldwin at DT.
 
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jwinslow said:
DT and it's not close.

Great tackles are extremely valuable but elite DTs are more rare. They're also a lot harder to find up north. The SEC comes up here regularly for OL. The south has the market cornered on DTs and that's where the true SEC speed lies.

There's also the matter of OL rankings being pretty iffy when it comes to HS recruits, arguably moreso than any other position. I don't have meaningful data to back that up but it's arguably the hardest position to scout for incredible college scouts and coaches so it makes sense that website gurus would struggle also.

Give me the team with the elite DTs all day. I can get by with Darryl Baldwin at RT (and frankly they win another NC last year if he had another year). I can't get by with Darryl Baldwin at DT.
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From a objective position analysis I might agree. From looking at the guys in the example I gave (Tufele/Smith) I'm not sure that I do.

Either way it's a good question and the answer will likely be differently from year to year because it depends on current depth and currently committed recruits.
 
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