Tiger Woods (Offical Thread)

[OH10]

Cops came to his door again and were curtly told that "Rain Check" Woods was unavailable. WTF:(

I don't know what [censored]es me off more. Rain Check's sense of entitlement and belief that he's not any old ordinary citizen who has to cooperate with authorities or the [censored]ing authorities who seem to be letting him get away with it.

Things are different here in Chicago. If Rain Check pulled that crap with CPD, he'd have a baton upside his skull.

Actually, neither he nor his wife are required to make any statement at this point. There's speculation of both Domestic Violence and, potentially, operating a vehicle under the influence of prescription pain medication. So either or both could be subject to criminal charges. Therefore....

5th Amendment kicks in.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Actually, neither he nor his wife are required to make any statement at this point. There's speculation of both Domestic Violence and, potentially, operating a vehicle under the influence of prescription pain medication. So either or both could be subject to criminal charges. Therefore....

5th Amendment kicks in.

I'm no attorney (although I did sleep in the parking lot of a Holiday Inn Express last night), but my understanding is that the 5th amendment comes into play during court testimony. Rain Check definitely has the "right to say nothing" or "be questioned in the presence of an attorney."

What I question is whether Rain Check has the right to deny the authorities the opportunity to question him, which he's done twice now. First, when he told them, "let's take a rain check guys" the night of the incident and now when the cops were stopped at his door and told he wouldn't be speaking with them.

My assumption is , if he's not Rain Check Woods, that he's cuffed and taken in for questioning at that point.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I'm no attorney (although I did sleep in the parking lot of a Holiday Inn Express last night), but my understanding is that the 5th amendment comes into play during court testimony. Rain Check definitely has the "right to say nothing" or "be questioned in the presence of an attorney."

What I question is whether Rain Check has the right to deny the authorities the opportunity to question him, which he's done twice now. First, when he told them, "let's take a rain check guys" the night of the incident and now when the cops were stopped at his door and told he wouldn't be speaking with them.

My assumption is , if he's not Rain Check Woods, that he's cuffed and taken in for questioning at that point.

Not saying its right but celebrities being excluded from the rubber hose treatment you or I would get isn't exactly a new phenomenon.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I can't help thinking of that scene in Harlem Nights where Eddie Murphy gets the piss beat out of him by that rather large woman and picturing something similar going down in Tigers house. "So you want to fuck around and embarrass me do you...."

Harlem Nights Della Reese > > > Touched By an Angel Della Reese

 

[strohs]

My assumption is , if he's not Rain Check Woods, that he's cuffed and taken in for questioning at that point.

Maybe if he was required to give a statement, which he wasnt.

 

[OH10]

I'm no attorney (although I did sleep in the parking lot of a Holiday Inn Express last night), but my understanding is that the 5th amendment comes into play during court testimony. Rain Check definitely has the "right to say nothing" or "be questioned in the presence of an attorney."

You're right - you're no attorney. He has the right not to answer any questions, whether in custody, in court, or in his home. It is the right against self incrimination, period. No one under potential investigation has a responsibility to give a statement, especially if the statement could incriminate them.

My assumption is , if he's not Rain Check Woods, that he's cuffed and taken in for questioning at that point.

Absolutely incorrect. Unless they have probable cause to support an arrest, they have no authority to take him in. Even if they did have PC, its unlikely they would issue an arrest warrant for what is probably a misdemeanor (DV or OVI) in the State of Florida. And even if they did arrest him or her, neither would have to answer any questions.

The 5th Amendment is not that complicated.

This is not a case of special treatment for a celebrity. Its how the law works in the real world.

 

[heisman]

Things are different here in Chicago. If Rain Check pulled that crap with CPD, he'd have a baton upside his skull.

Well sure, but they do that to innocent women and children, so I'm not sure that's much of a reach.

 

[TRON 2.0]

During the conversation, Tiger said his wife had "gone ghetto" on him.

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[Steve19]

Tiger in the rough after bad drive



Nov 29, 2009 12:00 AM | By Sunday Times Foreign Desk
World's number one golfer claims accident as tabloids scream affair

TIGER'S BIRDIE: Nightclub hostess Rachel Uchitel denies having an affair with Tiger Woods Picture: SIPA PRESS

'There is NO relationship with Tiger ... these girls in the story are not being truthful'

The mystery surrounding Tiger Woods's accident outside his home in the early hours of Friday morning has deepened.

Did the world's top golfer suffer facial cuts and bruises when he crashed his Cadillac into a fire hydrant and then rammed into a nearby tree? Or did his wife beat him up over an alleged affair with a woman described by one US tabloid as a nightclub hostess?

(continues at link)

 

[Flocka]

Cops came to his door again and were curtly told that "Rain Check" Woods was unavailable. WTF:(

I don't know what pisses me off more. Rain Check's sense of entitlement and belief that he's not any old ordinary citizen who has to cooperate with authorities or the fucking authorities who seem to be letting him get away with it.

Things are different here in Chicago. If Rain Check pulled that crap with CPD, he'd have a baton upside his skull.

Decaf is in the green or something like that.

 

[buckeyefool]

You're right - you're no attorney. He has the right not to answer any questions, whether in custody, in court, or in his home. It is the right against self incrimination, period. No one under potential investigation has a responsibility to give a statement, especially if the statement could incriminate them.



Absolutely incorrect. Unless they have probable cause to support an arrest, they have no authority to take him in. Even if they did have PC, its unlikely they would issue an arrest warrant for what is probably a misdemeanor (DV or OVI) in the State of Florida. And even if they did arrest him or her, neither would have to answer any questions.

The 5th Amendment is not that complicated.

This is not a case of special treatment for a celebrity. Its how the law works in the real world.

His car ran over a fire hydrant sign him up for destruction of public property. Sure his lawyer could say he is not going to talk to you without a lawyer present. However that is not what happened here based on the stories, according to the stories, first visit they were told by his wife he was sleeping, second time his agent says they are both unavailable for the police to talk to. If it was me or you or any other average joe they would have gotten a warrent of some type by now to at least question one if not both of them.

On a side note, no reporters etc can back into the area because it is a gated community, so I guess they are all hanging outside the gate asking people questions as they come and go. one radio host I heard made a comment to one of the on location reporters, and said if you see drywall going back into the community you know what happen :)

 

[OH10]

His car ran over a fire hydrant sign him up for destruction of public property. Sure his lawyer could say he is not going to talk to you without a lawyer present. However that is not what happened here based on the stories, according to the stories, first visit they were told by his wife he was sleeping, second time his agent says they are both unavailable for the police to talk to. If it was me or you or any other average joe they would have gotten a warrent of some type by now to at least question one if not both of them.

Couldn't be more wrong. Its not destruction of public property if its unintentional. At most right now, it would be "failure to control", which is a minor misdemeanor traffic ticket. In the real world, they don't arrest people or issue warrants for that sort of thing.

Now, the reports indicate that he could have been driving under the influence of pain medication, which is also a misdemeanor in most states OR his wife could have committed domestic violence, which is also a misdemeanor in most states.

If it was your or me, they'd present what they have to a prosecutor, who would determine if the evidence supported charges. If the prosecutor determined that the evidence supported charges, a summons would be issued for Tiger or his wife to appear in Court for an arraignment hearing. If the prosecutor determined there wasn't enough evidence, the police would have to go out and determine if they can obtain evidence to support a charge. For most people, the prosecutor's decision that the evidence doesn't support a charge would be the end of it unless someone wanted to pursue it. No appears to want to pursue it, so it probably will amount to nothing.

The only reason more may come of this is BECAUSE Tiger is a celebrity. If he was just some regular joe, he would either be charged or the matter would be concluded. I'm guessing they don't have any evidence to support charges either way, except a minor misdemeanor traffic ticket - which is not a big deal.

But either way, neither Tiger nor his wife have to make a statement. Its amazing to me how poorly uninformed the public is on this issue..

 

[MaxBuck]

... neither Tiger nor his wife have to make a statement. Its amazing to me how poorly uninformed the public is on this issue..

We live in Soap Opera World, where the prurient public believes it has a "right to know" everything about celebrities, while whining about the erosion of privacy in their own lives. So it's no surprise to me that the public wants to jump Tiger's shit just as soon as his wife cools off enough that she stops.

Man, am I glad I'm no celebrity. Juice ain't worth the squeeze, by a long shot.

 

[Jake]

Tiger screwed around with a hostess.

His wife found out and went apeshit on him.

He jumped into his car hopped up on pain killers and crashed.

Next...

 

[OH10]

Tiger screwed around with a hostess.

His wife found out and went ape[censored] on him.

He jumped into his car hopped up on pain killers and crashed.

Next...

And that's exactly the way the public will always continue to see it. Nothing is going to change that perception. Tiger will never make a statement about it. His wife will never make a statement about it. There will be no charges.

And a year from now, after Tiger has won another major or two, no one will care.