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THE GAME, tOSU at tCun, Sat. 11/25, 12pm ET, FOX

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lvbuckeye said:
Idk if you're drunk or high, but outside of 2001 (first year) and 2004 (14 guys drafted) Tressel never lost to a bad te
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lvbuckeye said:
Idk if you're drunk or high, but outside of 2001 (first year) and 2004 (14 guys drafted) Tressel never lost to a bad team.
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I was talking more about Meyer in terms of losing to bad teams than Tressel (did lose to Purdue in 09 tho). Tressel did get beat, often badly, by every out of conference team not named Notre Dame tho.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
One final thought. After the Notre Dame game, I wrote this:

I understand that football games are win/lose events and that there are no bad wins or good losses. I also understand that football is a game of inches and that one or two plays can swing the outcome of a game. In the Notre Dame game, everything went right on the final drive and Ohio State pulled out a miraculous victory; in the scUM game, the potential game-winning drive ended with an interception. Now reverse the situations – the Notre Dame ends with the pick, the scUM game with the last-second touchdown. Do your opinions of Ryan Day and Kyle McCord change? Should they, or are they still the same guys?
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Is this a real question? Lose a heartbreaker at ND, yet beat TCUN, and you get to beat Iowa in the B1GCG and go to the CFP.

But we beat ND and lost to TCUN which means no B1G championship, and no CFP.

Of course my opinion would change. At Ohio State, there are three goals: beat TCUN, win the B1G, and play for a national championship. We're 0-9 on achieving those goals the past three seasons.
 
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baremu527 said:
I was talking more about Meyer in terms of losing to bad teams than Tressel (did lose to Purdue in 09 tho). Tressel did get beat, often badly, by every out of conference team not named Notre Dame tho.
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Again, are you high? Texas in 05 and USC in 08. That's it. That's the regular season OOC loss list. USC was a blowout.

You want to include bowl games? UF in 06, LSU in 07, Texas in 09. That's it. That's the list. UF was a blowout.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
Again, are you high? Texas in 05 and USC in 08. That's it. That's the regular season OOC loss list. USC was a blowout.

You want to include bowl games? UF in 06, LSU in 07, Texas in 09. That's it. That's the list. UF was a blowout.
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Only the Texas games were close and one USC game. We were boat raced by UF, LSU, and USC the following year. Again my main point if you read it again is that he lost every single one except for ND.
 
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baremu527 said:
Only the Texas games were close and one USC game. We were boat raced by UF, LSU, and USC the following year. Again my main point if you read it again is that he lost every single one except for ND.
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And that 09 USC game he would have won if he didn't do exactly what people are blaming Day for. Being too predictable and conservative. Anybody holding that era USC to 18 pts should win. I knew OSU would probably lose that game early in the 1st qtr when the Bucks had the ball 4th and goal from about the 1 and didn't go for it. Went for a FG instead, wound up getting a penalty and missed it. I don't care, you just marched right down the field on them, at home, in front of the wildest crowd I've ever seen in the Shoe, you go for it. If you don't get it, you have them backed up on their own goal line. That was the night I knew "Tresselball" had run it's course.
 
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LordJeffBuck said:
I understand that football games are win/lose events and that there are no bad wins or good losses. I also understand that football is a game of inches and that one or two plays can swing the outcome of a game. In the Notre Dame game, everything went right on the final drive and Ohio State pulled out a miraculous victory; in the scUM game, the potential game-winning drive ended with an interception. Now reverse the situations – the Notre Dame ends with the pick, the scUM game with the last-second touchdown. Do your opinions of Ryan Day and Kyle McCord change? Should they, or are they still the same guys?
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The short answer to your questions are yes and yes because I don't view the situations the same. I'll explain why.

The stakes were higher yesterday, along with the pressure. OSU has survived early losses - even a bad one in 2014 - and went on to make the CFP and even win the whole thing. Losing at TCUN knocks you out of the B1GCG and you're left looking for help (again) to make the CFP.

The end of game situations were different, too. The winning drive versus ND began at OSU's 35 with 1:25 to play and a time out left. Yesterday's began at OSU's 18 with 1:01 to play and no time outs. That's essentially looking for a miracle, and against a better defense.

I found some of the reactions here odd, as if it was just expected the Bucks could easily march 82 yards in a minute and anything less was an abject failure. That's not a realistic expectation. We were all hoping they could do it, but to expect it? Come on. Some folks were even applauding the defense for getting a "stop" - a 7 minute drive that burns all but 66 seconds, all of your time outs, and gives up 3 points so now only a touchdown can save you is not a stop. It's not even close to a stop.

Anyway, I digress. Yes, losing at ND and winning yesterday would change my opinions. One would've have shown growth and improvement over the season, and Day turning the tables on TCUN. Instead, we just got another kick in the pants and they did it without CS and Jimmy on the sideline. Instead of some answers about Day we're just left with more questions.
 
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I know about the scandal and the press rights being revoked, and I don't trust Nevadabuck, but Kirk DOES know football.

That first INT should have never happened. It was a "fake" RPO. If Honda had handed the ball off, Treyveon had the entire field to run, with a hat on a hat on a hat.

The more I try to digest it, the sicker I become. I feel like I'm a contestant on Alone and it's been 32 hours since I accidentally fucked up and ate a diseased Muskrat. Give me that sat phone. I need to tap out.

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