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Should be a good game i think the bucks can come out with a win!!
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I think the Rose bowl might think twice about picking tsun given their recent record in that bowl. They might not make their full profit potential since tsun has lost their last two games there.BB73;648007; said:
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WaitingforKickoff
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Best Buckeye;648115; said:
The outcomes of the last two times that Michigan participated in the Rose Bowl have nothing to do with how much profit the game would generate. Profits have to do with fan turnout, tv advertisement revenue, costs associated with setting up the game, and a host of other things.
The Michigan Texas game was actually a very thrilling game with a lot of offense. The Michigan USC game was also packed with a lot of offense. After the SCumers lose to us, I would actually prefer to see a Michigan-Texas rematch or something like that.
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Smurf
Worships at the Church of Jim Tressel
Ok, so I've been gone a long time but I'm finally back. I was bored and got an idea for a picture so here I am. It's not perfect but, it'll do. Hope you enjoy. Good to be back!
-Edit: I was thinking about making the road lines scarlet and grey..any ideas?
-Edit: I was thinking about making the road lines scarlet and grey..any ideas?
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Wolverines
Carr used film as motivator
'Cinderella Man' energized U-M
October 31, 2006
Instead of ignoring it and burying the past, coach Lloyd Carr reached into his motivational bag of tricks and pulled out a movie.
He hoped the public chirping would work to build up his team, just as it had for another prominent sports figure decades earlier.
"We watched 'Cinderella Man' during two-a-days and the main fighter, everyone counted him out," fullback Obi Oluigbo said Monday, referring to the 2005 movie about boxer James J. Braddock's rise, fall and rise again to the heavyweight title. "He just came on strong at the end and kept winning."
Multiple Michigan players said the viewing during two-a-days was inspirational, forcing them to see how 2005's disappointment could translate into 2006's success.
The movie fit this Michigan team so well, it has become a regular theme, with clips from it slipped into the coaches' Friday pregame displays throughout the season.
While the overall story resonates with the players, one particular moment fits this Michigan team perfectly.
Defensive lineman Will Johnson said, "There's a scene where they're in the boxing match and the (opponent) is in the corner and he says, 'That's not the same man as last time.' It kind of reminds me of us and last year, because we're not the same team."
Braddock's real-life struggles were more pronounced -- he went from being a decent fighter to hitting bottom during the Depression and then using those desperate times as motivation to win the heavyweight title.
The Wolverines have reached 9-0 entering Saturday's game against Ball State by showing opponents just how different they are.
The teams who knocked them off last year (Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Minnesota) and who played them close (Michigan State, Penn State and Iowa) have seen a more physical group, one that has allowed only the Nittany Lions to finish within two touchdowns this year.
Last year's problems of finishing games with a wilting defense and lackluster running game are fuzzy memories now.
And, though Braddock's story was enhanced for cinema, the players could relate.
"I actually liked the movie before he even used it," Oluigbo said. "Now it may be getting a bit redundant, but it's a great story. We look up to it because that's the same thing we went through last year, and this year we're just trying to maintain the winning streak we have."
Motivational techniques are nothing new for Carr.
During the 1997 national championship season, he centered the theme around Jon Krakauer's book, "Into Thin Air," about the teamwork necessary for a group of mountain climbers scaling Mt. Everest and how important each player was to the larger cause.
All of his ploys have a shelf life, but every kick-start can help.
"From a coaching standpoint, you can motivate a guy occasionally for a short period of time," Carr said. "But real motivation comes from within a guy, within a person.
"What I try to do is recruit guys that are motivated, that want to be the best they can be, that want to win, want to do all the things for this program that the expectations are. So I think this team has been easy to be around because of the leadership we've had. They've been motivated since the first day we started."
Wolverines
Carr used film as motivator
'Cinderella Man' energized U-M
October 31, 2006
- What: No. 2 Michigan (9-0, 6-0 Big Ten) vs. Ball State (3-6, 3-3 Mid-American).
When: Noon, Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor.
TV: ESPNU.
Tickets: A limited number remain. Call 866-296-6849 or click on mgoblue.com/tickets.
Line: Michigan by 33 1/2 .
Notebook: Michigan's Nov. 11 game at Indiana will kick off at 3:30 p.m. and be televised on ESPN. ... Carr said Mike Hart broke the sideline marker when he fell on it during the Northwestern game, suffering an injured back. But Carr said he expects Hart's back to be fine. He did not give an update on the marker. ... When asked about a potential U-M/Ohio State rematch in the BCS national championship game, Carr did the expected tap dance. "That's not on my radar screen," he said. "Whatever it is, it is. They've got a system, called the BCS. I'm sure they can take care of all those questions."
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Instead of ignoring it and burying the past, coach Lloyd Carr reached into his motivational bag of tricks and pulled out a movie.
He hoped the public chirping would work to build up his team, just as it had for another prominent sports figure decades earlier.
"We watched 'Cinderella Man' during two-a-days and the main fighter, everyone counted him out," fullback Obi Oluigbo said Monday, referring to the 2005 movie about boxer James J. Braddock's rise, fall and rise again to the heavyweight title. "He just came on strong at the end and kept winning."
Multiple Michigan players said the viewing during two-a-days was inspirational, forcing them to see how 2005's disappointment could translate into 2006's success.
The movie fit this Michigan team so well, it has become a regular theme, with clips from it slipped into the coaches' Friday pregame displays throughout the season.
While the overall story resonates with the players, one particular moment fits this Michigan team perfectly.
Defensive lineman Will Johnson said, "There's a scene where they're in the boxing match and the (opponent) is in the corner and he says, 'That's not the same man as last time.' It kind of reminds me of us and last year, because we're not the same team."
Braddock's real-life struggles were more pronounced -- he went from being a decent fighter to hitting bottom during the Depression and then using those desperate times as motivation to win the heavyweight title.
The Wolverines have reached 9-0 entering Saturday's game against Ball State by showing opponents just how different they are.
The teams who knocked them off last year (Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Minnesota) and who played them close (Michigan State, Penn State and Iowa) have seen a more physical group, one that has allowed only the Nittany Lions to finish within two touchdowns this year.
Last year's problems of finishing games with a wilting defense and lackluster running game are fuzzy memories now.
And, though Braddock's story was enhanced for cinema, the players could relate.
"I actually liked the movie before he even used it," Oluigbo said. "Now it may be getting a bit redundant, but it's a great story. We look up to it because that's the same thing we went through last year, and this year we're just trying to maintain the winning streak we have."
Motivational techniques are nothing new for Carr.
During the 1997 national championship season, he centered the theme around Jon Krakauer's book, "Into Thin Air," about the teamwork necessary for a group of mountain climbers scaling Mt. Everest and how important each player was to the larger cause.
All of his ploys have a shelf life, but every kick-start can help.
"From a coaching standpoint, you can motivate a guy occasionally for a short period of time," Carr said. "But real motivation comes from within a guy, within a person.
"What I try to do is recruit guys that are motivated, that want to be the best they can be, that want to win, want to do all the things for this program that the expectations are. So I think this team has been easy to be around because of the leadership we've had. They've been motivated since the first day we started."
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Will U-M face Ohio State in title game? Not likely
Could it happen? Yes.
Is it probable? No.
But it's certainly fun to consider.
Ohio State and Michigan, ranked No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, in the national polls, will face each other in their regular-season finale Nov. 18 at Ohio Stadium. Assuming both teams remain unbeaten going into that game, the winner will head to the BCS national championship, while the loser will go to the Rose Bowl.
Unless a lot of things fall into place and somehow, some way, Ohio State and Michigan meet again in the national title game.
"It's unlikely," Jerry Palm, who created CollegeBCS.com and CollegeRPI.com, said in a phone interview. "It's about a 10 percent chance."
Still, it's being discussed on national television shows, on sports-talk radio programs and at the proverbial water cooler. About three weeks ago, Palm started fielding that question about Ohio State and Michigan potentially playing again.
"Now, I'm getting that question every day," Palm said.
For Ohio State and Michigan to play again, several things have to happen, Palm said, and one of them already did. Southern California had to lose, and the Trojans did last Saturday at Oregon State. Florida, the strongest one-loss team in the polls, has to lose again, and the Big East champion can't finish the season unbeaten.
Oh, and the Wolverines would have to barely lose in a competitive game against the Buckeyes.
"It's still kind of a long shot," Palm said. "Losing that late in the year is not conducive to getting into the national title game, but the voters would be more generous to Michigan losing to a higher-ranked team on the road.
"The way it works, the loser of the game doesn't fall too far in the polls, and they get help in the last two weeks from a two-loss SEC champion, or Texas gets beat and there not be an undefeated Big East champion. It helped that Southern Cal got beat early, because it keeps Notre Dame from getting a big jump (in the polls) from beating USC."
Palm said the Big Ten is the one league that could produce a national-title game matchup, because it's the only league that doesn't play a full round-robin or a championship game. That means two unbeaten Big Ten teams could reach the BCS national title game.
Michigan coach Lloyd Carr is unimpressed by and, seemingly, uninterested in this possibility.
"I can tell you what I think about hypothetical questions," Carr said Monday. "That's for all of you (in the media). I don't have anything to add to that discussion. That's not on my radar screen. Whatever it is, it is. They've got a system called the BCS. I'm sure they can take care of all those questions."
Will U-M face Ohio State in title game? Not likely
Could it happen? Yes.
Is it probable? No.
But it's certainly fun to consider.
Ohio State and Michigan, ranked No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, in the national polls, will face each other in their regular-season finale Nov. 18 at Ohio Stadium. Assuming both teams remain unbeaten going into that game, the winner will head to the BCS national championship, while the loser will go to the Rose Bowl.
Unless a lot of things fall into place and somehow, some way, Ohio State and Michigan meet again in the national title game.
"It's unlikely," Jerry Palm, who created CollegeBCS.com and CollegeRPI.com, said in a phone interview. "It's about a 10 percent chance."
Still, it's being discussed on national television shows, on sports-talk radio programs and at the proverbial water cooler. About three weeks ago, Palm started fielding that question about Ohio State and Michigan potentially playing again.
"Now, I'm getting that question every day," Palm said.
For Ohio State and Michigan to play again, several things have to happen, Palm said, and one of them already did. Southern California had to lose, and the Trojans did last Saturday at Oregon State. Florida, the strongest one-loss team in the polls, has to lose again, and the Big East champion can't finish the season unbeaten.
Oh, and the Wolverines would have to barely lose in a competitive game against the Buckeyes.
"It's still kind of a long shot," Palm said. "Losing that late in the year is not conducive to getting into the national title game, but the voters would be more generous to Michigan losing to a higher-ranked team on the road.
"The way it works, the loser of the game doesn't fall too far in the polls, and they get help in the last two weeks from a two-loss SEC champion, or Texas gets beat and there not be an undefeated Big East champion. It helped that Southern Cal got beat early, because it keeps Notre Dame from getting a big jump (in the polls) from beating USC."
Palm said the Big Ten is the one league that could produce a national-title game matchup, because it's the only league that doesn't play a full round-robin or a championship game. That means two unbeaten Big Ten teams could reach the BCS national title game.
Michigan coach Lloyd Carr is unimpressed by and, seemingly, uninterested in this possibility.
"I can tell you what I think about hypothetical questions," Carr said Monday. "That's for all of you (in the media). I don't have anything to add to that discussion. That's not on my radar screen. Whatever it is, it is. They've got a system called the BCS. I'm sure they can take care of all those questions."
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rocketman
flying low
OSUBasketballJunkie;648339; said:
I for one think this whole "Wouldn't a rematch for the title be so cool" nonsense is just that. Ridiculous nonsense. I hate thinking of the fact that there is a remote chance it could happen. The Game is just that - Game. Singular. Not Games. You get one chance. You have to deal with the sting of defeat or the elation of victory for an entire year. The tradition of the rivalry and its impact on the conference and college football as a whole would be marred by a rematch. If you win one game and lose the title, the whining and/or chest thumping would never cease. If you win both games including the title, you question why the game had to be played anyway - so and so was clearly the better team to begin with.
And lets not even talk about how the already shaky reputation of the BCS would be further marred by having two teams from the same conference, who played the same game a month prior, only to do it again on a bigger stage because of what some computer thought was most appropriate.
If we beat Michigan and all that other random shit occurs to make a rematch possible, I hope the voters do the right thing and put someone else at #2. Besides, do you really want Michigan fans in your hotel at Glendale bitching about how they should have beat us the first time around?
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Taosman
Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Noticed that Hart went out of the NW game with a tweaked back.
scUM fans hate Grady. Say he would make a good LBer!
They replaced Grady with a true freshman, Brandon Minor, who subsequently fumbled and was removed for Jackson? 4th stringer.
Hart is being run in the ground. He's hurting.
They have no TE threat.
MM is coming off a scoped knee.
They're other WRs are just mediocre.
They could only score 17 on freakin' Northwestern!
"Yea, but it was windy!"
Their defense continues to win games for them and is terrific.
But, does give up yards in pass defense and doesn't cause a lot of turn overs.
scUM fans hate Grady. Say he would make a good LBer!
They replaced Grady with a true freshman, Brandon Minor, who subsequently fumbled and was removed for Jackson? 4th stringer.
Hart is being run in the ground. He's hurting.
They have no TE threat.
MM is coming off a scoped knee.
They're other WRs are just mediocre.
They could only score 17 on freakin' Northwestern!
"Yea, but it was windy!"
Their defense continues to win games for them and is terrific.
But, does give up yards in pass defense and doesn't cause a lot of turn overs.
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craigblitz
Juice, Full of Juice!!
I haven't seen SCUM play a lot this year, but they look very similar to us in 2002. I can not wait for 11/18 to get here....Man oh Man oh Man.
Them giving up a lot of passing yards is a direct reflection of them shutting down the run and making teams pass, whic is not a bad thing at all.
Them giving up a lot of passing yards is a direct reflection of them shutting down the run and making teams pass, whic is not a bad thing at all.
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