Texas 21, Alabama 37 (BCSCG) Jan 7, 2010 on ABC

[jwinslow]

Ingram had a huge impact on that game..He sit for most of the second half. I don't see very many people saying..

That's because he missed TWO drives in the second half, not counting saban running up the score from 10 to 16.

Running backs get dinged up and miss a few drives all of the time... quarterbacks don't miss entire games that often.

 

[WoodyWorshiper]

When you SUCK you should be entitled to do that, and that Gilbert kid SUCKS.

Wish we had them on the schedule next year,

Sorry to say that about a kid, he's obviously trying to play well in a tough situation, but nothing about him impresses me.

JMO

Peace

If I could reach into my computer screen and grab this post I made last night I'd shove it up my own a.s.s.

No excuses. It was senseless, rude, pompous, and IDIOTIC!

I've tried real hard for many months to refrain from embarASSing myself like this, yet low and behold I managed to pull off an absolute waste of space on this site.

To all of those who "dinged" me, as well as to all who wanted to, but didn't, I sincerely apologize. Not only to you, but to all BP posters as well as to any Texas fans who may have read this.

Young Mr. Gilbert showed very good leadership skills under the very worst of circumstances. He certainly doesn't "suck." I'd take him on my team any day of the week.

"Dubs"

 

[powerlifter]

The B10 dominating most of the history of CFB doesn't seem to mean jack shit, so why should the SEC winning mostly home games mean a damn thing?

Wouldn't argue about that at all. In fact,the "right now is what matters" feeling most people have about everything sucks in most things,and usually promotes some sort of bias in polls.

We have to consider that there are a TON of people that now watch college football,that probably can't even tell you anything about CFB before the year 2000.

 

[jwinslow]

We have to consider that there are a TON of people that now watch college football,that probably can't even tell you anything about CFB before the year 2000.

I've seen little evidence that football existed before January 07.

 

[BUCKYLE]

blah blah blah

Like 'Bama wouldn't have claimed an NC even if they lost.

 

[WaitingforKickoff]

I've seen little evidence that football existed before January 07.

You mean the bt* times.


*before tebow.

 

[Mike80]

I've seen little evidence that football existed before January 07.

Actually I tried to chart that out from what the idiots both on the internet and on TV were saying, and honestly, CFB started in January of 2004 when LSU won that partial national title with USC.

 

[powerlifter]

That's because he missed TWO drives in the second half, not counting saban running up the score from 10 to 16.

Running backs get dinged up and miss a few drives all of the time... quarterbacks don't miss entire games that often.

True..I think there is some difference in a heisman caliber back and just a regular back though. Not to mention bama has depth at RB whereas Texas doesn't have depth at QB. You can't fault bama for being more fortunate under the circumstances.

There's no possible way bama could have depended on Mcelroy to win that game.

 

[Mike80]

True..I think there is some difference in a heisman caliber back and just a regular back though. Not to mention bama has depth at RB whereas Texas doesn't have depth at QB. You can't fault bama for being more fortunate under the circumstances.

There's no possible way bama could have depended on Mcelroy to win that game.

Here's a question - WHY are you pursuing this issue?

You can't honestly be debating the ifs and buts of a game when Texas was missing the clear-cut best offensive player in the game. Really.

 

[powerlifter]

Here's a question - WHY are you pursuing this issue?

You can't honestly be debating the ifs and buts of a game when Texas was missing the clear-cut best offensive player in the game. Really.

To really confuse you....I'd say Ingram had a better year then Mccoy(best offensive player in the game).

 

[Mike80]

To really confuse you....I'd say Ingram had a better year then Mccoy(best offensive player in the game).

The Heisman trophy doesn't mean he was the best offensive weapon in that game.

You're just pursuing this for no other reason than to be contrarian. Again.

 

[powerlifter]

The Heisman trophy doesn't mean he was the best offensive weapon in that game.

You're just pursuing this for no other reason than to be contrarian. Again.

Maybe I don't believe we should backtrack every ncaa football game ever played and discredit the winning team,because of a key injury on the opponents side. Stuff happens,and it does effect the outcome,yet doesn't change reality. You can torque and twist every loss any team you wanted to win,lost.Whatever people see fitting.. I highly doubt you were discrediting Ohio State after Willis Mcgahee went down in 02 though.

 

[NateG]

Per the whole discussion, not to say conf A is better than conf B, but just to show mindsets.

Official NCAA Division I-A(FBS) Football Records Book

Titles per conference(with where current teams reside)-

Big 10-11(scUM),7(OSU),6(MSU),6(Minn),5(ILL),2(Chicago),2(State Penn),1(Iowa)-40
SEC-13(Bama),6(Tenn),5(Geor),3(Flor),3(LSU),3(Ole Miss),1(Ark),1(Aub),1(Ken)-36
Pac 10-11(USC),5(Cal),2(Wash),1(Stan),1(UCLA)-20
Big 12-7(Okla),5(Neb),4(Tex),1(Colo),1(Ta&m)-18
Independent-11(ND),3(Army),1(Navy)-15
ACC-5(Miami),4(GT),2(FSU),1(BC),1(Clem),1(Mary)-14
Big East-9(Pitt),1(Syra),0(Cincy)-10
MWC-2(TCU),1(BYU)-3
MAC-0
WAC-0
Sun Belt-0



National poll championships by current conference membership (1936?present)

Big 12 -18 Oklahoma (7), Nebraska (5), Texas (4), Colorado (1), Texas A&M (1)
SEC -18 Alabama (8), LSU (3), Florida (3), Tennessee (2), Georgia (1), Auburn (1)
Big Ten -15 Ohio State (5), Minnesota (4), Michigan (2), Michigan State (2), Penn State (2)
Ind-10 Notre Dame (8), Army (2)
ACC -10 Miami (5), Florida State (2), Georgia Tech (1), Clemson (1), Maryland (1)
Pac-10 -9 USC (7), Washington (1), UCLA (1)
Big East -3 Pittsburgh (2), Syracuse (1)
MWC -2 TCU (1), BYU (1)

Since inception of BCS-

BCS National Champions by conference (1998?present)

SEC 6 Tenn (1998), LSU (2003, 2007), Flor (2006, 2008), Bama (2009) 6-0 (1.000)
Big 12 2 Okla (2000), Tex (2005) 2-5 (0.286)
Pac-10 1 USC (2004) 1-1 (0.500)
Big Ten 1 Ohio State (2002) 1-2 (0.333)
ACC 1 Florida State (1999) 1-2 (0.333)(2-4 current alignment)
Big East 1 Miami (2001) 1-2 (0.333)(0-0 current alignment)

What the last 4 years have done is created a mindset in the general fanbases that SEC football has been the dominate conference all together. Where most of the posters here are rational and understand that college football is cyclical. And to be honest, the conversation being strictly based off the NCG we are talking about 4-8 games total not the entire landscape of college football. So if the SEC chooses to chant regarding their conference record in the NCG, then so be it. Where I will just continually be confused at the whole thing. Ohio State has never been harmed in bowl selection due to lack of conference power, but instead by losing games in the regular season. So I am in the boat that if scUM, State Penn or any other team from the Big Ten wins a title, I would not chant about how great the Big Ten is. Even if OSU would have lost this year I could care less about the other teams. What is the difference if my team ends up 4 or 6 according to other teams in their conference? Every year gets its own rankings and has a totally different set of circumstances. So again chant all you want but it never added to your teams total or showing of dominance. Especially if your team has lost at least one game during the year. But remember, it may all come back on you.....

 

[Gatorubet]

The B10 dominating most of the history of CFB doesn't seem to mean jack [censored], so why should the SEC winning mostly home games mean a damn thing?

* Kyle see below

It only means a damn thing because recruits do not commit to Yale, Brown or Army because of an absolutely valid history of dominance, nor do polls comprising a significant part of the BCS standings pay them any heed. The Sugar Bowl does not select next year's participants primarily due to an abundance of tradition, nor does any other bowl rely on that as a major component in the selection process. Tradition absent wins will not interest the former. Tradition absent a fan base that travels well will not interest the latter.

Almost none of the kids signing a letter of intent are aware of Nebraska's beat down of Florida in January 1996, let alone Woody's amazing 1968 to 1977 run of nine Big-10 Championships. They know Beanie and Tebow, Reggie Bush and Vince Young. Even Deion "Prime Time" Sanders is only a memory - and that of an NFL star.

History and tradition is another subject entirely, and while it is a part of the discussion of any current program, that part is overshadowed (to people other than the fans of a particular program anyway) by recent success.

Hell, if it wasn't for recent Jamesonian douchebagery, nobody would have mentioned the words "SMU" and "Football Power" for another decade.

As long as you signed on to the BCS system, and play for the BCS trophy, it seems a little disengenuous to dismiss it now when you held it so dear very recently. And of the 6 wins we have, we now have one in every one of the four BCS CG venues. I know, who cares? Well, lots of people voting in the coaches poll and sitting on bowl selection committees and sitting in their momma's living room listening to recruiting spiels do care. Which is why other conferences should at least monitor it for any effect it has on them - deserved or not, johnnie come lately or not.

* blah blah blah :p

 

[jwinslow]

Almost none of the kids signing a letter of intent are aware of Nebraska's beat down of Florida in January 1996, let alone Woody's amazing 1968 to 1977 run of nine Big-10 Championships. They know Beanie and Tebow, Reggie Bush and Vince Young. Even Deion "Prime Time" Sanders is only a memory - and that of an NFL star.

Recruits believe what they are told by the talking box. The talking box treats football as though it began 3 years ago, and only dares to look beyond when making a lazy player comparison.

It seems pointless to rail against it, so perhaps we should just welcome ignorance with open arms and bask in apathy. :(

As long as you signed on to the BCS system, and play for the BCS trophy, it seems a little disengenuous to dismiss it now when you held it so dear very recently.

Can't help but think of what anger, bitterness & rebellion filled Gator Nation just 37 months ago... and how quickly most have switched roles and forgotten those injustices they now mockingly dismiss.

I agree it's disengenuous to dismiss the accomplishments. I think last year was a lot better than the other four, personally, given what they lined up against.