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Targeting/Pussification of football

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Nobody actually knows the rule... it's all over the place.

Bama DB launched his shoulder up through a scUM players head.... replay people say no reviewed bc it look incidental. Bama DB drives crown of helmet thru face of scUM WR.... "didn't launch enough" OSU DB running straight at the QB, easily can see the hit coming... QB Ducks down into hit which makes it look worse, no flags on field, but replay decided to toss him.


Fuck this rule
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
I'm sure somebody has brought this up already, but I will again just in case. So, if targeting is going to be enforced with zero grey area and nuance, how soon before some coaches start coaching players to drop their heads and take one for the team at crucial points in the game.
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Isnt that kind of what happened?
I mean he didnt lower his head looking for the call imo... but he definitely sold it with the theatrics on the ground afterwards.
 
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Woody1968 said:
I think neck injuries are more likely if you keep your crown up. It's easier to break your neck than the top of your head.
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you think wrong.


edit: you don't have to rely on thoughts and feelings to justify your belief. there are countless sources yielded from a simple search that clearly state that head-down tackling is far more dangerous than head-up tackling.

google search: "football head up head down injuries"
 
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so me and a buddy we’re talking about this.

i think you have two options to fix this
neither of which will ever be seriously considered.


A. Start actually enforcing it on offensive players that lower their heads, lean into contact, initiate the contact (like a runner), etc.
That won’t happen, because can you imagine if they had tossed Sunshine Ronnie Bass from a playoff game?

B. Remember the old punt return halo rules. If you got “blocked into the returner”, you weren’t penalized. Maybe do something like that. Where if the offensive guy, in the act of bracing himself, moves himself into a position that actually cause targeting, no foul.
They won’t do that, because they have to show they’re trying to enforce something.
 
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OSU_Buckguy said:
you think wrong.


edit: you don't have to rely on thoughts and feelings to justify your belief. there are countless sources yielded from a simple search that clearly state that head-down tackling is far more dangerous than head-up tackling.

google search: "football head up head down injuries"
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Maybe true, but people seem instinctively tend to duck their head prior to contact & not just in football.
 
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Woody1968 said:
Maybe true, but people seem instinctively tend to duck their head prior to contact & not just in football.
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there is no "maybe."

i won't argue against instincts, though. unfortunately, it's those instincts that cause the most spinal injuries. dare i post the video of shazier's career-ending, life-threatening tackle?

contact when the spine is bent is not the main issue here. contact when the spine is straight, however, is.


National Athletic Trainers' Association Position Statement: Head-Down Contact and Spearing in Tackle Football
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Axial loading of the cervical spine resulting from head-down contact is the primary cause of spinal cord injuries. Keeping the head up and initiating contact with the shoulder or chest decreases the risk of these injuries. The 1976 rule changes resulted in a dramatic decrease in catastrophic cervical spine injuries. However, the helmet-contact rules are rarely enforced and head-down contact still occurs frequently. Our recommendations are directed toward decreasing the incidence of head-down contact.
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OSU_Buckguy said:
there is no "maybe."

i won't argue against instincts, though. unfortunately, it's those instincts that cause the most spinal injuries. dare i post the video of shazier's career-ending, life-threatening tackle?

contact when the spine is bent is not the main issue here. contact when the spine is straight, however, is.


National Athletic Trainers' Association Position Statement: Head-Down Contact and Spearing in Tackle Football
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We seem to be talking past each other - I'm not disputing your scientific data - just noting that people tend to duck prior to head to head contact, and I don't necessarily think it is an attempt by offensive players to draw a penalty, nor is it necessarily easy for defensive players to keep their head up, despite being taught to do so.
 
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