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If his facemask hits instead of the crown it shouldn't be called targeting. It can be, because we all know that rule gets applied stupidly. But when you drop your head and lead with your crown, you have no argument.
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cincibuck
You kids stay off my lawn!
Repeat and repeat again. Once they ran the slow-mo replay there was no question that targeting would be the call. Wade lowered his head and hit with the crown.
I'll go one further; look in any High School locker room and you'll see the "heads up" poster, showing the proper tackling technique. Hitting with the crown is dangerous not only for the person being hit but also for the person doing the hitting. Neck injury (think Katzenmoyer) is increased when the tackler hits with the crown and so is the risk of concussion.
I'll go one further; look in any High School locker room and you'll see the "heads up" poster, showing the proper tackling technique. Hitting with the crown is dangerous not only for the person being hit but also for the person doing the hitting. Neck injury (think Katzenmoyer) is increased when the tackler hits with the crown and so is the risk of concussion.
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OhioState001
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Awesome stuff happening with this rule. Is this actually making the game safer or just more unfair?
The bottom was is the one called targeting
The bottom was is the one called targeting
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Why should that matter, I only saw shoulder hitting shoulder, this was a terrible ejection for the Illini.
Edit - I see now you were talking about Wade and JWins' comments.
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Yeah, I saw that Miss St hit and couldn't believe there was no targeting. His head was down and he hit helmet to helmet head on. This was PAC 12 officials, who had plenty of time to review it, since there were two players injured (elsewhere) on the play, and the announcers had time to bring in old Dean Blandino before the next play, but it wasn't officially reviewed for targeting. That's what's so maddening, this hit was an example of what they're trying to eliminate from the game, and the clueless officials (especially in the booth) miss it, even though they had plenty of time. It happened with 14:04 left in the game, IIRC, for anybody wanting to see it in the full broadcast.
Edit - earlier in that game, a team had a first and ten at the 19 yard line. On first down the ball carrier was tackled back at the 24 or 25, but a facemask was correctly called. The refs said half the distance and put the ball at the 9 and a half. I thought it should be an automatic first down at the 12, I think the PAC 12 refs marked it off from the line of scrimmage incorrectly.
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None of them have an argument with an eject first, find compelling evidence later rule. That's why your rebuttal is that he merely has a chance to not get ejected for tackling him in the neck area.
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I read somewhere that the SEC takes their old officials that can’t hack it anymore (too old, too fat, needs glasses?) and make them replay officials. The replay official in questions has been doing this for 12/13 years. I have told by a guy I know who used to do replay for the NFL that all replays done by the league were always at game speed never in slow motion. I read that college has the same rule but yet the head official omitted that looked at it at game speed and in slow motion. It appears the replay protocol by the SEC doesn’t necessarily go strictly by the rules....but we already knew that....
Edit...the scoop and score is what I am really talking about regarding live versus slow motion. I have no idea if targeting has the same protocol
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What are you arguing? That the rule needs to be fixed, or that what Wade did wasn't targeting.
If Wade lifts his head, he isn't breaking a rule and the 800 metric tons of bitching are valid. He didn't. He unintentionally drove the crown of his helmet into the head of a QB, and got kicked out of the game for it....as per the rule that says not to do exactly that.
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He absolutely is breaking a rule, because it's a very stupid one. You can't touch the neck area on a "defenseless" player. Not with your helmet, shoulder or anything else. Trevor dropped two feet and swing it into the strike zone of half of Wade's body.
the crown is just the most egregious way to get disqualified
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Systems_id
Head Coach
I do think having two levels of targeting where one should just be a 15 yard penalty vs 15 yards and player ejection, but at this point I don't even trust the refs enough to differentiate between the two levels.
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cjmik_75
Legend
Of course there is targeting. When you’re trying to tackle a 180-220 pound football player you need to take aim and bring him to the ground. I’m close to being done with this sport altogether. It’s not even football anymore. It’s IMPOSSIBLE to redirect your body in milliseconds when tackling an opponent (who is also trying to avoid being tackled) ZERO chance any athlete playing football will understand how to tackle in 10 years.
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