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Targeting/Pussification of football

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I'd just like to comment on how reasonable the discussion has been in this thread, and that's encouraging. Thanks to LJB for splitting the discussion out of the game thread.

My personal take is that the reason for the rule is honorable, the way it's written is better than it was originally, but still open to interpretation. The addition of allowing replay to create a targeting penalty is a good one, as evidenced in the LSU-Oklahoma game where an off-the-ball launch into a player's helmet was missed live and correctly detected by replay which issued the ejection.

The Wade-Lawrence play was bang-bang, everybody was watching, and the combination of Wade lowering his head to expose the crown and the QB ducking into the contact created the technical definition of a targeting penalty. Most of the time we hate having the refs/officials trying to judge intent, and the written rule doesn't directly instruct them to do so, so it was a legitimate penalty. But I've seen similar plays reviewed several times this year, some initiated by the replay booth and some not, and sometimes they eject the player and sometimes they don't. It's still enforced inconsistently, but I can't say that this ruling was incorrect, it was just a call that isn't always made and was a tough break for the Buckeyes. Ejection in this case was overly punitive.

The ruling of an incomplete pass on the scoop-and-score, however, was a travesty that I'll never be able to forget. I wish one of the final two Buckeye drives had resulted in a TD so it wouldn't be so painful to talk about. The other thing is that after seeing the non-call on LSU for PI near the sideline when the score was 14-7 (I think) made me say out loud that I could just see the SEC refs jobbing Ohio State later in the day. Sadly that was the case on the overturned scoop-and-score. LSU would have won big anyway, but that non-call gave made me nervous about the officiating before the Fiesta Bowl kickoff.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
jwinslow said:
we've seen players tossed for non launched shoulders or facemasks to the head.
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Show me. Burden of proof is in you.

And no I didn't. I was talking about a hypothetical play where a penalty is actually called.
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Is there a hint of a led shoulder? Yes. Are there other hits that are pretty docile like this which result in ejection? yes.

Meanwhile, the ballcarrier is allowed to do this to the defender all day. Or rip his helmet off.



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By rule, he gets tossed. The rule is outrageous.

As brock said, it's not the defender's striking element that matters. It's where the hit lands, from ANY part of the body. Do that in the head/neck area, and you're toast.


Wade's only clear option to tackle was to shred Trevor's ACL. Hanging on around the waist is a recipe for failure against a beast like Trevor.
 
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jwinslow said:
Is there a hint of a led shoulder? Yes. Are there other hits that are pretty docile like this which result in ejection? yes.

Meanwhile, the ballcarrier is allowed to do this to the defender all day. Or rip his helmet off.

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Giving part time officials the targeting rule and instant replay is like leaving a shiny loaded revolver on the table for small kids to play with.

Bad things are going to happen because they lack the judgement to properly use the device.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Giving part time officials the targeting rule and instant replay is like leaving a shiny loaded revolver on the table for small kids to play with.

Bad things are going to happen because they lack the judgement to properly use the device.
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The ball carrier could have done that to the defender and been praised across the land.
The ball carrier can take off Milo's head via facemask. Only OL get called for that, and not often (see Chase on Wade's expulsion).
The defender can remove the ball carrier's knee.
The defender may not tackle him anywhere above the waist and feel confident about staying in the game.
 
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jwinslow said:
Is there a hint of a led shoulder? Yes. Are there other hits that are pretty docile like this which result in ejection? yes.

Meanwhile, the ballcarrier is allowed to do this to the defender all day. Or rip his helmet off.



Here's another angle:



By rule, he gets tossed. The rule is outrageous.

As brock said, it's not the defender's striking element that matters. It's where the hit lands, from ANY part of the body. Do that in the head/neck area, and you're toast.


Wade's only clear option to tackle was to shred Trevor's ACL. Hanging on around the waste is a recipe for failure against a beast like Trevor.
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Or.....this is just a theory here......Lift. His. Head.
 
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