Possible. I 'd have to take another look, but I do think he got twisted up on the secondary tackle though - he seemed to be favoring his shoulder/collarbone area rather than his head.
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Well that and he just got blasted in the head by Shaun Wade on a dead sprint. Or are we saying Shaun Wade can't hit very hard?
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You're wrong. Lifting his head would have resulted in his facemask hitting the helmet....which shouldn't be called. But when a WR catches a ball and then has it ripped out of his hands, that shouldn't be called an incomplete pass, so. But still....you're wrong. Lifting his head is a safer way to tackle, when it comes to impact on the spine as well as the ability to see what you're about to hit and potentially adjust to it.
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Possibly, because these refs sucked. If it had been called, then all this complaining would be justified. But if you hit somebody with your head up, and your facemask makes contact with a helmet the way Wade's would have, that should not be called.
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This is what I've been arguing with since the start. These simply aren't true statements. I think the rule needs to be modified so your scenario is not a disqualifying hit, but it often is.
Are you more likely to get tossed if you hit with the crown of your helmet? Yes.
Are you still very likely to get tossed if you hit a defenseless player with the helmet? Yes.
He was hit in the head/neck area. That outranks what did the hitting. That's why the Illini defender got tossed.
Trevor was also hit in the head with a helmet. Which part of the helmet is a factor but the facemask is still helmet to helmet.
He is a QB and was semi-blindsided, then proceeded to roll around on the ground with a severe injury. That makes the hit look malicious and gives replay too much time to overthink what went uncalled.
As it stands now, it is often called targeting because:
1) He's hitting him in the head/neck area
2) He's still leading with the helmet
3) He caught him by surprise with the wicked hit
4) He's hitting him higher than if he ducks his head.
Fun alternate option with #4, Trevor ducks so low that Wade's helmet goes over Trevor's and he now smashes Trevor's head with his shoulder/forearm, and still he gets tossed because of #1.
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It's often called targeting because refs don't know how to call targeting. That doesn't mean it's right, and it doesn't mean Wade wouldn't have been better off lifting his head.
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I didn't have major problems with the referees who called the game on the field. They made some good calls, some good no-calls, and missed a few calls like they always do, some of which went both ways. They didn't call for Wade to be ejected, and they ruled a TD that would have given the Buckeyes the lead with about 5 minutes left in the third quarter. They correctly called two important holding penalties on Clemson on the long drive in the fourth quarter that ended with the punt that didn't bounce the right way off of Kendricks' leg/hip.
The actions of the guy in the replay booth in Birmingham, Alabama, however, should result in an overhaul of how replay is performed in NCAA football games.
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mendensa
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Sorry, but that's just ignorant. You must not have any medical experience.... and that's not your fault.
.....but, that is the main reason why the NFL and NCAA are trying so hard to change these rules, educate, and why the penalty is so harsh. Don't mind the rule, just think the interpretation of the rule is all over the place.
When the crown is up, the neck is more stabilized with impact and significantly reduces the chance of neck and spinal cord injury.
Once the crown is lowered, you can't see what you are hitting for one (which is more dangerous) so you can't brace yourself for impact, you run the risk of compression fractures in the neck and spine, as well as significant damage to the base of the spinal cord, which could potentially cause paralysis.
The compression forces on the top of the head are far greater and more dangerous than the sheer forces on the neck at impact when discussing football helmet hits.
In no scenario is lowering the crown of the helmet safer than keeping it up, or less likely to cause injury.
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Exactly. Since Lawrence wasn't a defenseless player, the standard for the call is higher. For defenseless players, it's "foreseable contact to the head and neck area." For NOT a defenseless player, it's "leading with the crown of the helmet" meaning above the facemask. This is what Wade did. Still think it was ticky-tack, since he was also in the process of making a tackle and properly wrapped up, but when he lowered his head, he left himself open to the ticky-tack call.
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OHSportsFan
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If the NCAA wants to step in and move the replay center to their HQ in Indianapolis, I’d be happy to apply.
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