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Game Thread Sugar Bowl: tOSU vs Arkansas, Tue, Jan 4th, 8:30 ET ESPN

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Onebuckfan;1833070; said:
History means crap..unless Hawk Lauranitis Whitner and Holmes are going to suit up for us then I like our chances..Hell if we happen to win..half the idiots will say we didn't bet a real SEC team..And Who Cares? Go Bucks Kick Ass!
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3 of those players never played an SEC team..
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1833042; said:
McShay had it at 11 or some other relatively low number of confidence and actually made some semi-valid arguments supporting his pick. Sheesh, if anyone picks against us...
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McShay is a douche, and while he isn't good at the job he pretends to be doing, he is pretty good at hitting the bullet points ESPN lays out for him. His track record has proven that. There is no debate.

Which semi-valid arguments did make? Even his co-host called him for picking against Ohio State for not playing anyone, but then picking TCU to upset Wisconsin when TCU REALLY hasn't played anyone. McShay relishes his role as a more believeable Trev Alberts. Maybe if he could have gotten his writers to say something like "Ohio State's defensive line has not performed up to expectations, and couple that with their injured secondary, and Mallett could have a big day" rather than just the "Who have they played????" line.
 
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Poe McKnoe;1833088; said:
McShay is a douche, and while he isn't good at the job he pretends to be doing, he is pretty good at hitting the bullet points ESPN lays out for him. His track record has proven that. There is no debate.

Which semi-valid arguments did make? Even his co-host called him for picking against Ohio State for not playing anyone, but then picking TCU to upset Wisconsin when TCU REALLY hasn't played anyone. McShay relishes his role as a more believeable Trev Alberts. Maybe if he could have gotten his writers to say something like "Ohio State's defensive line has not performed up to expectations, and couple that with their injured secondary, and Mallett could have a big day" rather than just the "Who have they played????" line.
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Don't you think you could just acknowledge that it's not entirely unreasonable for someone to pick Arky? I mean, I know we all want the Bucks to win and we all know we've got a good shot at it, but it's also reasonable for someone to look at Arky and think they might win. But if someone/anyone picks against us, they're morons. Gets kinda old.
 
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Coqui;1833107; said:
We've never played Arkansas. How is history on his side?
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OregonBuckeye;1833068; said:
History? This is the first time we've ever played Arkansas.
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:lol:

As if you had no idea what I meant. Fine, if you want to act clueless, I'll spell it out for you. Ohio State is 0-9 in bowl games versus SEC teams. I'm shocked you hadn't heard that until now. :roll1:

It doesn't mean we can't win, but I haven't seen people around here reject history when it reflects positively on us. Pretending you're unaware of it is just silly.

MililaniBuckeye;1833042; said:
McShay had it at 11 or some other relatively low number of confidence and actually made some semi-valid arguments supporting his pick. Sheesh, if anyone picks against us...
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Exactly. Heaven fucking forbid someone on TV doesn't pick us to win by four touchdowns.
 
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As if you had no idea what I meant. Fine, if you want to act clueless, I'll spell it out for you. Ohio State is 0-9 in bowl games versus SEC teams. I'm shocked you hadn't heard that until now.

It doesn't mean we can't win, but I haven't seen people around here reject history when it reflects positively on us. Pretending you're unaware of it is just silly.
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And what is Arkansas' bowl record against the b10?
 
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Past records of teams against leagues (or even past records of teams against teams) are meaningless, regardless of which ones you're discussing.

This Sugar Bowl will be played between the 2010 Buckeyes and 2010 Razorbacks. Nothing else means squat. It's annoying to me that people even bring up all the other crap. Nonetheless, until tOSU wins a bowl game against an SEC team, they will continue to do so.
 
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Poe McKnoe;1833088; said:
"Ohio State's defensive line has not performed up to expectations, and couple that with their injured secondary, and Mallett could have a big day"
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matcar;1833132; said:
Don't you think you could just acknowledge that it's not entirely unreasonable for someone to pick Arky? I mean, I know we all want the Bucks to win and we all know we've got a good shot at it, but it's also reasonable for someone to look at Arky and think they might win. But if someone/anyone picks against us, they're morons. Gets kinda old.
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I did acknowledge that it's not entirely unreasonable for somone to pick Arky. I even gave a plausible reason as to why Arkansas could win.
Personally, I think Arkansas has a good shot to win because of Ohio State's preference for zone and blitzing out of the zone and Ohio State's indecisiveness on offense. I think Mallett has the accuracy and velocity to pick apart the zone and get the ball to wide open receivers, similar to Colt McCoy, Matt Flynn, and Chris Leak. The "they haven't played anyone!!" argument is trite and is what I would expect an uneducated Arkansas fan to say.

To insinuate I'm a homer and that I call out everyone that picks against the Buckeyes is one of the funniest things I've read. There's a whole thread related to the douchebaggery of Todd McShay, his love for SEC pro prospects, and his draft projections (like Jake Locker as the #1 QB in the draft). My first post stated that McShay picked Arkansas and that McShay is a douche. While not entirely mutually exclusive, I didn't say he's a douche because he picked Arkasnas.
 
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what's the spread on this game?


should be interesting to see how osu's secondary handles what I would call the best passing attack they've see all year. The D-line is really going to have to step up and get some pressure on Mallett. And if the game turns into a shootout, does osu have the horses to score at will?
 
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I watched McFadden run up & down and thru the Jaguars defense yesterday for alot of yardage against a somewhat good defense for the Jags. The other ex-razorback over with the Browns (Hillis) is have a pretty good year too, which makes me think that the Razorbacks must have a good stable of running backs over there to compliment thier system in the passing game.

Plus the fact that we are 0-9 against sec compitention in the bowl games makes it a big hill to climb and to get this monkey off our back if we can be victorious. So my opinion of this game is that Tressel and his staff will have thier hands full in this game. We stopped a pretty good offense last year against the Ducks in the Rose Bowl. I hope Ohio State can do the same come Jan 4th in the Sugar Bowl. "Go Bucks"
 
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kippy1040;1833164; said:
I watched McFadden run up & down and thru the Jaguars defense yesterday for alot of yardage against a somewhat good defense for the Jags. The other ex-razorback over with the Browns (Hillis) is have a pretty good year too, which makes me think that the Razorbacks must have a good stable of running backs over there to compliment thier system in the running game.

Plus the fact that we are 0-9 against sec compitention in the bowl games makes it a big hill to climb and to get this monkey off our back if we can be victorious. So my opinion of this game is that Tressel and his staff will have thier hands full in this game. We stopped a pretty good offense last year against the Ducks in the Rose Bowl. I hope Ohio State can do the same come Jan 4th in the Sugar Bowl. "Go Bucks"
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McFadden, Felix Jones, and Hillis were in the backfield under Gus Malzahn and Houston Nutt. Hillis rarely touched the ball, but it's hard to blame the playcalling when you've got McFadden and Jones. I think their RB situation this year is similar to ours, where their workhorse RB has emerged throughout the season and has played good ball in the last several games.

I was impressed how the Silver Bullets stopped the Oregon attack and forced them into mistakes. I don't think, however, Masoli's passing was something they had to concern themselves with. Mallett is a statue, so hopefully they can stop his one dimension.
 
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Yeah, and Malcom Jenkins and Nate Clements both had INT yesterday, one was a pick 6. And so that makes me think that tOSU has a good stable of DB's that will complement our system on Defense. Plus the fact that ARKY is 0-3 against the Big Ten in Bowl games, makes me think BP and his staff is going to have his hands full come Jan. 4th.

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