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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

MaxBuck;1934576; said:
There's no such thing as "overpaying" if you permit the market to dictate pricing - the value is whatever the purchaser is willing to pay.

As for money-laundering, I'm not quite sure what you mean.
Hey MaxBuck, if you go to Canada state next year I'll pay you $500 per signed twinkie wrapper.
 
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Pheasant;1934578; said:
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here's no such thing as "overpaying" if you permit the market to dictate pricing - the value is whatever the purchaser is willing to pay.
The memorabilia is money-laundering the money gifts to the player.

No need to give him an envelope of cash, just buy one of his items to make it "legal" and pay handsomely for it, even though he and his teammates have flooded the market with those items which should have killed their sale value.

The market dictates that player X's game worn socks are only worth $50 because of all of the players trading them in, but Booster Joe pays $500-1000 for them, since you're allowing the purchaser to pay whatever he is willing to pay.
 
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jwinslow;1934585; said:
The memorabilia is money-laundering the money gifts to the player.

No need to give him an envelope of cash, just buy one of his items to make it "legal" and pay handsomely for it, even though he and his teammates have flooded the market with those items which should have killed their sale value.

The market dictates that player X's game worn socks are only worth $50 because of all of the players trading them in, but Booster Joe pays $500-1000 for them, since you're allowing the purchaser to pay whatever he is willing to pay.
This is really a non sequitur. If Joe Booster is willing to pay $5,000 for a pair of Terrelle's socks, he's willing to pay $5,000 for a pair of Terrelle's socks. It may be because he really likes Terrelle, or he may need a pair of socks, or he may have some really creepy motivation. Doesn't matter why.

You're taking the position that an "envelope full of cash" is necessarily a bad thing, while I really see little problem with it. If a player is good enough, let him get the coin. "Money laundering" has a RICO element to it that isn't germane to this discussion.

"Allowing the purchaser to pay whatever they want" is kind of the basis of a market economy.
 
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You're taking the position that an "envelope full of cash" is necessarily a bad thing, while I really see little problem with it. If a player is good enough, let him get the coin.
What types of money gifts are you against for players?
 
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jwinslow;1934589; said:
What types of money gifts are you against for players?
None. Again, I see the market as being the proper mechanism for players to get more cash. Bigger stars will get more coin.

If it's OK for coaches to use the market, I think it's inappropriate to keep players from the same opportunity.

Ultimately, if I were head of the NCAA, Cecil Newton's shenanigans would not have constituted a violation.
 
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BUCKYLE;1934562; said:
To simplify my earlier point...

If a Stanford education is of higher value than say...a degree from Central Michigan...then why wouldn't Central Michigan be allowed to "even the playing field", since that seems to be what the NCAA is after?

If they made the rules based on that, I could see the tuition at Auburn going really low. :tongue2:
 
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ORD_Buckeye;1938792; said:
NCAA track athletes seem to think their scholarships are adequate.

Then again what do they know about rockin' full sleeves, blingin' in gucci and rollin' a new ride twice a year.

This is a moot point. Their scholarships exist because football and basketball bring in revenue. Athletic scholarships are a luxury. Track athletes better know better than to bite the hand that feeds them and start complaining when Track is a sport that can and has been cut in other schools. Football players on the other hand are making money for everyone else. Marketability.
 
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1. You lose the whole idea of "amateur sports," a notion that gets trotted out each Olympics and which has been proven to be a farce. Frankly, it looks more and more to me as if we already have such a system in place, it's just not stated out loud or put in print. My guess is that under a pay system only schools with a 90 to 100K seat stadium and a solid fan base would last -- and that might even end a program as rich in tradition as USC if the NFL puts a franchise back in LA.

2. Under a "paid to play" system I have to wonder how long the Big 10 would last? My guess: within 2 years Northwestern and Indiana would be gone. By the end of five only Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State and Nebraska would remain. Would they then play a home and home series each year?

Other conferences would be the same. Gone are all the "not quite ready for prime time schools" Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ol' Miss, Mississippi State, South Carolina the entire Big East and the ACC. Texas, Oklahoma and maybe aTm. Maybe they link up with Notre Dame, USC and the rest of the Pac 10 falls off a cliff.

Perhaps a new Div 2 forms from the Wisconsin's, Ol Miss's, Washington's, Oregon's, Okie States and Mizzou's of the world. A third, a little Ivy of Rice, Northwestern, Duke, Stanford, Vandy might emerge.

But what I most suspect is that the uneven level of competition would drop interest to the point of non-sustainabilty at all but the top twenty five schools. Maybe then the rest of the colleges could stop being the schools the big boys pound to get their bowl invites locked up and get back to the business of education at affordable tuition.
 
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