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Sen. Ted Cruz against idea of college athletes as employees

Sen. Ted Cruz said it is "absolutely critical" that any federal law related to college sports includes a provision that prevents athletes from being deemed employees of their school.

The Republican from Texas, who holds a key position in advancing NCAA legislation as chair of the Senate Commerce Committee, told ESPN in an interview Wednesday that Congress might run out of time to act if it can't find a bipartisan solution in the coming months. During a yearslong effort to restore order to the college sports industry, Republicans and Democrats have remained largely divided on whether college athletes should have a future avenue for collective bargaining, which would require them to be employees.

"Clarifying that student athletes are not employees is absolutely critical," Cruz told ESPN. "Without it, we will see enormous and irreparable damage to college sports."

Cruz and NCAA leaders say many smaller schools would not be able to afford their teams if athletes had to be paid and receive benefits as employees. However, as lawsuits over player contracts and eligibility rules continue to mount, a growing number of frustrated coaches and athletic directors from major programs say they are open to collective bargaining as a solution.

"I've always been against this idea of players as employees, but quite frankly, that might be the only way to protect the collegiate model," Clemson football coach Dabo Swinney, a longtime defender of amateurism, said at a news conference last week.

The NCAA and its members have spent millions of dollars in the past several years lobbying Congress for a bill that would grant the association an antitrust exemption, supersede state laws related to college sports and block attempts to gain employee status for athletes. Despite more than a dozen Capitol Hill hearings and a long list of proposals, no bill has reached a full vote in either chamber of Congress to date.

Senate Commerce Committee staff told ESPN that Cruz and a bipartisan group of senators have made significant progress on a new draft of a bill but are at an impasse on the employment issue. Cruz said Democrats and labor unions are concerned about setting a broader precedent for other industries by closing the door on college athlete employment, which has led to the stalemate.

"From a political perspective, you have labor union bosses that would love to see every college athlete deemed an employee made a member of a union and contributing union dues to elect Democrats," Cruz said. "It's terrible for college sports, but I get that there's some partisan appeal to it."

Sen. Maria Cantwell, the highest-ranking Democrat on the Commerce Committee, said in a statement to ESPN that she also sees "growing bipartisan interest" for Congress to act. She has proposed separate college sports legislation that doesn't advocate for athletes to be employees but leaves the door open for employment or collective bargaining in the future. She told ESPN that the committee "should move the ball forward with a hearing on this [topic]."

The large and expanding gap between the top tier of college teams and the rest of the NCAA has made it difficult to find a fair solution for all parties.
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Pretty good indication that athletes being employees is probably the right idea.
 
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Pretty good indication that athletes being employees is probably the right idea.

just sayin': For an equal playing field the players union would probably negotiate with the NCAA for how to divvy up the $20.5M (House vs NCAA settlement). The problem is the (almost endless amount of) NIL money some school have. I can't see the players union ever agreeing to a overall "salary cap" that would include NIL money. You look at MLB, NBA, NFL, and NHL, the union and leagues negotiations just concerns what the teams pay they players. All the professional athletes are on their own for endorsement deals and some of the top athletics make a whole lot more than what their team is playing them in endorsements/appearances/autographs, etc.
 
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just sayin': For an equal playing field the players union would probably negotiate with the NCAA for how to divvy up the $20.5M (House vs NCAA settlement). The problem is the (almost endless amount of) NIL money some school have. I can't see the players union ever agreeing to a overall "salary cap" that would include NIL money. You look at MLB, NBA, NFL, and NHL, the union and leagues negotiations just concerns what the teams pay they players. All the professional athletes are on their own for endorsement deals and some of the top athletics make a whole lot more than what their team is playing them in endorsements/appearances/autographs, etc.
Agreed, I don't see how any player would sign an agreement limiting the amount they can earn. Fans and coaches will complain about(and not saying their wrong), but the NCAA majorly screwed up, and they took the massive gamble of thinking Congress would save them. They have no Plan B. And for those constantly saying this isn't sustainable, its sustainable for as long as billionaires want it to be. Right now, Mark Cuban looks like he made a sound investment, and Cody Campbell believes the same as Texas Tech had one of the best seasons in program history, same with Miami.
 
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Sen. Ted Cruz against idea of college athletes as employees

Sen. Ted Cruz said it is "absolutely critical" that any federal law related to college sports includes a provision that prevents athletes from being deemed employees of their school.

The Republican from Texas, who holds a key position in advancing NCAA legislation as chair of the Senate Commerce Committee, told ESPN in an interview Wednesday that Congress might run out of time to act if it can't find a bipartisan solution in the coming months. During a yearslong effort to restore order to the college sports industry, Republicans and Democrats have remained largely divided on whether college athletes should have a future avenue for collective bargaining, which would require them to be employees.

"Clarifying that student athletes are not employees is absolutely critical," Cruz told ESPN. "Without it, we will see enormous and irreparable damage to college sports."

Cruz and NCAA leaders say many smaller schools would not be able to afford their teams if athletes had to be paid and receive benefits as employees. However, as lawsuits over player contracts and eligibility rules continue to mount, a growing number of frustrated coaches and athletic directors from major programs say they are open to collective bargaining as a solution.

"I've always been against this idea of players as employees, but quite frankly, that might be the only way to protect the collegiate model," Clemson football coach Dabo Swinney, a longtime defender of amateurism, said at a news conference last week.

The NCAA and its members have spent millions of dollars in the past several years lobbying Congress for a bill that would grant the association an antitrust exemption, supersede state laws related to college sports and block attempts to gain employee status for athletes. Despite more than a dozen Capitol Hill hearings and a long list of proposals, no bill has reached a full vote in either chamber of Congress to date.

Senate Commerce Committee staff told ESPN that Cruz and a bipartisan group of senators have made significant progress on a new draft of a bill but are at an impasse on the employment issue. Cruz said Democrats and labor unions are concerned about setting a broader precedent for other industries by closing the door on college athlete employment, which has led to the stalemate.

"From a political perspective, you have labor union bosses that would love to see every college athlete deemed an employee made a member of a union and contributing union dues to elect Democrats," Cruz said. "It's terrible for college sports, but I get that there's some partisan appeal to it."

Sen. Maria Cantwell, the highest-ranking Democrat on the Commerce Committee, said in a statement to ESPN that she also sees "growing bipartisan interest" for Congress to act. She has proposed separate college sports legislation that doesn't advocate for athletes to be employees but leaves the door open for employment or collective bargaining in the future. She told ESPN that the committee "should move the ball forward with a hearing on this [topic]."

The large and expanding gap between the top tier of college teams and the rest of the NCAA has made it difficult to find a fair solution for all parties.
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Shut the fuck up, Ted
 
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Why...I just ...what the fuck ever.

Why??!!

All the shit wrong in the state and world today and THIS is what some cockslap, money grubbing, crooked fuck politician came up with? THIS is the thing that just has to get done?

"I know there are kids without winter coats. I know food insecurity is rampant as well as drug addiction, mental health and homelessness but fuck all that. Today we tell the children of Ohio enough is enough! We grown ups know what's best for you and will tell you how and when you are allowed to make money. It's what's best for the state of Ohio and by the State of Ohio I mean my lobbyists."

-Ohio Sate rep whothefuckever
 
Why...I just ...what the fuck ever.

Why??!!

All the shit wrong in the state and world today and THIS is what some cockslap, money grubbing, crooked fuck politician came up with? THIS is the thing that just has to get done?

"I know there are kids without winter coats. I know food insecurity is rampant as well as drug addiction, mental health and homelessness but fuck all that. Today we tell the children of Ohio enough is enough! We grown ups know what's best for you and will tell you how and when you are allowed to make money. It's what's best for the state of Ohio and by the State of Ohio I mean my lobbyists."

-Ohio Sate rep whothefuckever
They have no idea how to fix the actual problems of the country, but their old ass conservative brains can’t process high school kids making money playing sports and it must be stopped. Hunger and poverty is a little over their heads.
 
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