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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL and Revenue Sharing)

Stanford players are maybe taking the first meaningful step toward unionization.

It's worth the read. They make some good points and it's all very much in the spirit of "make it exist, then make it perfect" kind of view which is the only way all of this gets sorted imo. They also take a slap at Penn State out of nowhere so there is that too.

"There's some legislation going on trying to standardize a lot of the stuff in college football and give us a legal standard. I have a couple issues with it," Umeh said. "College football players should have a voice on the future. They know what works best for them and their teams. I'm not saying college football should be run by the players, but I think the players should have more of a voice."

That is what I have been getting at regarding the proposed bill from congress. The players have no say, it's just the old powers that be trying to still be the only powers that be and dressing it up in language of "good for the sport".

Personally, I don't see why the good football players or basketball players would want to voluntarily join up but overall, this step does have to be taken.

I also still don't see how you lump nonrevenue athletes with revenue athletes but time will tell.
 
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This sounds familiar

As the college sports structure evolves, it might even be beneficial for some schools if they could simply let investors fund the roster, pay the coaches and take on the profit/loss risk. In exchange, the school would get paid for use of facilities and trademarks to fund their other sports.

and yes, already happening to a degree

In a sense, it's already in motion. Utah finalized a nine-figure deal with Otro Capital earlier this year, forming a new company that will handle revenue-generating aspects of the athletic program. Michigan State just unveiled a new athletic department structure with $100 million in seed money, part of which is a for-profit subsidiary called Spartan Media Ventures where investors will get a return.

In early August, LSU is gathering donors at the governors' mansion for a "first look at an alternative revenue-generating opportunity for LSU athletics that is first of its kind nationally and could quite possibly change the future of college sports in America," according to the invitation. It's expected to include some type of structure where investors/donors could buy a "share" of a privatized athletic department.
 
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Big Ten, SEC support college sports bill, reviving Senate chances

The Big Ten and SEC agreed Friday night to support a Senate bill that seeks to regulate college sports, ending a breakneck week of negotiations and pulling the bipartisan measure out of what looked like a certain death spiral.

School presidents from both conferences voted to back the bill after receiving last-minute concessions over language regarding third-party name-image-likeness deals and the so-called "associated entities" that often broker those arrangements between players and schools.

More details need to be worked out, but the bill still has a chance to earn the 60 votes it needs to halt debate and head to an up-or-down vote before the Senate heads for summer break next Friday.

The summer recess is increasingly looking like an intractable deadline for the Protect College Sports Act, a bipartisan effort headed by Sens. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Maria Cantwell, D-Wash.

After the conferences, which had balked at large sections of the bill, put out a short release announcing they supported the act "as currently drafted," Cruz put out a short statement on social media thanking the leagues and saying: "Let's save college sports."

Cantwell said: "Good. Now progress can be made in protecting women and Olympic athletes and moving the legislation closer to the President's desk."

President Donald Trump, who has also been seeking fixes for an industry that now pays its players millions, got involved late Thursday, which helped push the parties back to the negotiating table.

Cody Campbell, the Texas Tech regent who has played a big role in shaping this policy, called the SEC and Big Ten support "a major breakthrough that moves us closer to a Senate vote -- and a better future" for college sports.

Increased salary cap, new language entice holdout leagues
The most groundbreaking part of the reworked deal is the $27.5 million that schools would be allotted to retain players, in addition to the $21.3 million cap that already exists.

It could represent a major reworking of the House settlement -- the groundbreaking agreement that governs paying players. The idea is that the extra money will take the place of payments from "associated entities" that were allowed above and beyond the $21.3 million cap. It was those payments that, many schools complained, obliterated any idea of a cap or controlled cost.

The SEC and Big Ten sought stronger language in the bill to guarantee that any third-party deals are truly outside deals and not coming from the schools' multimedia-rights partners, which currently arrange the majority of those deals.

Among the questions still unanswered are whether the new cap will comport with the House settlement, which had specific instructions about the hard cap (22% of a certain part of athletic department revenues, which equals $21.3 million this season).

Also, what would happen to the College Sports Commission, the main NIL enforcement arm that spends the bulk of its time analyzing third-party NIL deals that would be greatly reduced under this arrangement?
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Compromise comes on a day where NCAA loses two more court rulings

Almost everyone involved in college sports agrees that the status quo isn't working.

The news broke only hours after the NCAA lost a pair of key court cases involving its new rule that would give most Division I athletes five years to complete five seasons of eligibility.

Using those losses as another chance to urge for passage of the bill, NCAA president Charlie Baker said: "It is long past time leaders across college sports call for the immediate passage of the bipartisan Protect College Sports Act."

Two-time national champion hoops coach Dan Hurley of UConn used social media to outline the stakes in more colorful terms: "Somebody please come and fix College Sports. It's a complete [expletive] show," he said, using an emoji where the expletive would go.


Following the preliminary injunction issued by U.S. District Judge Charlotte Sweeney on Friday, a host of athletes whose college careers ended last year have declared that they will seek the opportunity to play another year of college sports

 
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This shit is just wrong.


Fucked up part I:
The key components of the bill would grant the NCAA and conferences a limited antitrust exemption to re-implement the one-time transfer exception, standardize a five-year eligibility policy, ban professional athletes from returning to college, establish an agent registry and maximum fee (5%) and, as noted above, create a more strict athlete revenue-share cap.

Fucked up part II
Opposed to collective bargaining and employment, college sports leaders are working to establish a harder cap like the NFL

So the NCAA and Conferences bought their politicians and now get to make up the rules without players having any voice what so ever. They are going to limit the kids ability to move and earn because they bought anti trust exemption.

To be clear...we are right back to square 1. The NCAA is the governing body because well, that has worked so well for so long , right?
Later in the day, a Senate staff member sent a memo to conference commissioners outlining the ways that the bill closes the loophole, writing that the NCAA and College Sports Commission has "clear authority to establish and enforce rules ensuring that associated entity compensation is counted against the cap."


In case you think that maybe politicians will avoid adding some odd provisions to the bill in return for votes....No. Politicians are gonna be politicians.
While the cap circumvention provision remains the top issue, there are others, such as a new, mysterious third section of the bill added just this week. Title III, called the "Ignite HBCUs Sports and Media Act," is a competitive federal grant program to assist historically Black colleges and universities, though details of the act are unclear.
 
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Following the preliminary injunction issued by U.S. District Judge Charlotte Sweeney on Friday, a host of athletes whose college careers ended last year have declared that they will seek the opportunity to play another year of college sports


Judge says injunction doesn't cover football players who signed pro deals

The judge who granted the right to play another year of college sports to some athletes whose eligibility ran out last school year issued a new order Sunday that makes clear that the ruling does not include football players who signed pro contracts this summer, then had a change of heart.

U.S. District Judge Charlotte Sweeney responded to an NCAA request for clarity about her Friday ruling that granted a fifth year to athletes who graduated high school in 2022 and were not included in the new NCAA rule that allows five seasons of eligibility for Division I players.

That decision, she said, still stands, but has no impact on other NCAA rules, including its prohibition on players signing pro contracts, then coming back to college.
 
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AOL News:

Senate punts on Protect College Sports Act until September as bill fails to reach vote​

The U.S. Senate adjourned for its annual five-week August recess early in the morning on Saturday without voting on legislation that intends to regulate college athletics, stiff-arming the bill for more crucial matters and kicking any possible vote to September — a move that troubles supporters.

Just sayin': Probably no surprise there.
 
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College football 2026: How much does each position cost?

There has never been a better time to be a college football player competing at the highest level. Just ask their agents.

Last year, we dug into how much Power 4 starters are earning at every position. To find out just how much their value has increased 12 months later, we surveyed more than a dozen general managers and front office staffers as well as a dozen agents last week at the annual Personnel and Recruiting Symposium in Nashville, Tennessee.

We asked the folks tasked with negotiating their contracts to help define the new price ranges for each position, based on the deals they've struck for 2026 and what each side now considers fair value. And they had a lot to say.

If every Power 4 program was carefully abiding by the new revenue sharing cap and spending the same amount, the price points for the deals would be easier to identify. But that's not the case. The sport's most competitive programs had the funds to go far beyond $20 million for their rosters this offseason. Agents say SEC and Big Ten programs continue to outspend the Big 12 and ACC. As one agent put it, the gap between good and elite feels greater than ever. This year's price ranges for deals reflect that, too.

These ranges do not capture what every player is making at the Power 4 level. There are plenty of elite outliers at College Football Playoff contenders with seven-figure deals this season. There are plenty more competing for a starting job in preseason camp while making $200,000 or less. GMs still believe they're getting a discount when they re-sign starters, so these price ranges tend to reflect the contractual cost of talent acquisition more than retention.

The elimination of the spring transfer portal, a period when teams tended to overpay out of desperation, resulted in fewer FBS scholarship players transferring this offseason. But it also created a new level of urgency for roster construction in December and the frantic two-week portal window in January.

"Now that there's not two windows, teams can't miss," another agent said. "People ask me all the time why the market's so high. The market's so high because you've got one shot at this. When the portal's over, that's your team."

College GMs are debating positional roster value every day while navigating a marketplace with no transparency and lots of skepticism about the numbers that get reported. Their head coaches are increasingly concerned about where this is all heading.

"I can tell you right now, with NIL rising 20%, 30%, 40% a year, it's not sustainable if we stay on the path we're on right now," Michigan coach Kyle Whittingham said.

As GMs and agents gather more data and experience with every deal, both sides agree business is booming like never before. But they're still seeing too much misinformation on social media about who's making what.

"You hear and read so much about everyone having $40 million rosters and every tackle is making $2 million, every corner is making $1.1 million and every edge rusher is making $1.5 million," an ACC GM said. "That's not reality."

Here's what they believe college football players are now earning to start and compete at the Power 4 level entering Year 2 of the revenue sharing era.

Quarterbacks

Typical range: $1 million-$3 million
Then, you still have the truly elite tier. Oregon's Dante Moore could've been the No. 2 pick in the draft and signed a $54 million contract but preferred to stay in school. GMs believe Moore, Arch Manning (Texas), Julian Sayin (Ohio State) and the best of the best are getting revenue share guarantees but still earning just as much outside money in brand deals thanks to their NIL value.

"If you're in the ACC and Big 12, you're probably $1 million to $2 million," an SEC GM said. "If you're Big Ten and SEC, you're probably $2 million to $3 million and then plus, plus, plus for the elite."

Running backs

Typical range: $300,000-$800,000

Wide receivers

Typical range: $400,000-$1 million
Jeremiah Smith
has said he was offered $10 million to transfer from Ohio State at the end of last season. General managers surveyed by ESPN said they could easily see Smith earning $5 million to $6 million this year, plus millions more in NIL endorsements.

"Jeremiah Smith, Cam Coleman and Malachi Toney are the outliers," one agent said. "Whatever the f--- they want, you pay 'em."

Tight ends

Typical range: $300,000-$600,000

Offensive tackles

Typical range: $600,000-$1.2 million

Guards/centers

Typical range: $400,000-$800,000

Edge rushers

Typical range: $500,000-$1.2 million

Defensive tackles

Typical range: $500,000-$1 million

Linebackers

Typical range: $300,000-$700,000

Cornerbacks

Typical range: $400,000-$900,000

Safeties

Typical range: $300,000-$900,000
One contributing factor to the top of the safety market this offseason: Ohio State, Ole Miss and Georgia all needed to sign multiple starters via the portal. Add in two more coveted playmakers in LSU's Ty Benefield and Oregon's Koi Perich and you end up with lots of competitive recruitments.

Kickers

Typical range: $50,000-$200,000

Punters

Typical range: $50,000-$150,000

Long-snappers

Typical range: $10,000-$50,000
 
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College football 2026: How much does each position cost?

There has never been a better time to be a college football player competing at the highest level. Just ask their agents.

Last year, we dug into how much Power 4 starters are earning at every position. To find out just how much their value has increased 12 months later, we surveyed more than a dozen general managers and front office staffers as well as a dozen agents last week at the annual Personnel and Recruiting Symposium in Nashville, Tennessee.

We asked the folks tasked with negotiating their contracts to help define the new price ranges for each position, based on the deals they've struck for 2026 and what each side now considers fair value. And they had a lot to say.

If every Power 4 program was carefully abiding by the new revenue sharing cap and spending the same amount, the price points for the deals would be easier to identify. But that's not the case. The sport's most competitive programs had the funds to go far beyond $20 million for their rosters this offseason. Agents say SEC and Big Ten programs continue to outspend the Big 12 and ACC. As one agent put it, the gap between good and elite feels greater than ever. This year's price ranges for deals reflect that, too.

These ranges do not capture what every player is making at the Power 4 level. There are plenty of elite outliers at College Football Playoff contenders with seven-figure deals this season. There are plenty more competing for a starting job in preseason camp while making $200,000 or less. GMs still believe they're getting a discount when they re-sign starters, so these price ranges tend to reflect the contractual cost of talent acquisition more than retention.

The elimination of the spring transfer portal, a period when teams tended to overpay out of desperation, resulted in fewer FBS scholarship players transferring this offseason. But it also created a new level of urgency for roster construction in December and the frantic two-week portal window in January.

"Now that there's not two windows, teams can't miss," another agent said. "People ask me all the time why the market's so high. The market's so high because you've got one shot at this. When the portal's over, that's your team."

College GMs are debating positional roster value every day while navigating a marketplace with no transparency and lots of skepticism about the numbers that get reported. Their head coaches are increasingly concerned about where this is all heading.

"I can tell you right now, with NIL rising 20%, 30%, 40% a year, it's not sustainable if we stay on the path we're on right now," Michigan coach Kyle Whittingham said.

As GMs and agents gather more data and experience with every deal, both sides agree business is booming like never before. But they're still seeing too much misinformation on social media about who's making what.

"You hear and read so much about everyone having $40 million rosters and every tackle is making $2 million, every corner is making $1.1 million and every edge rusher is making $1.5 million," an ACC GM said. "That's not reality."

Here's what they believe college football players are now earning to start and compete at the Power 4 level entering Year 2 of the revenue sharing era.

Quarterbacks

Typical range: $1 million-$3 million
Then, you still have the truly elite tier. Oregon's Dante Moore could've been the No. 2 pick in the draft and signed a $54 million contract but preferred to stay in school. GMs believe Moore, Arch Manning (Texas), Julian Sayin (Ohio State) and the best of the best are getting revenue share guarantees but still earning just as much outside money in brand deals thanks to their NIL value.

"If you're in the ACC and Big 12, you're probably $1 million to $2 million," an SEC GM said. "If you're Big Ten and SEC, you're probably $2 million to $3 million and then plus, plus, plus for the elite."

Running backs

Typical range: $300,000-$800,000

Wide receivers

Typical range: $400,000-$1 million
Jeremiah Smith
has said he was offered $10 million to transfer from Ohio State at the end of last season. General managers surveyed by ESPN said they could easily see Smith earning $5 million to $6 million this year, plus millions more in NIL endorsements.

"Jeremiah Smith, Cam Coleman and Malachi Toney are the outliers," one agent said. "Whatever the f--- they want, you pay 'em."

Tight ends

Typical range: $300,000-$600,000

Offensive tackles

Typical range: $600,000-$1.2 million

Guards/centers

Typical range: $400,000-$800,000

Edge rushers

Typical range: $500,000-$1.2 million

Defensive tackles

Typical range: $500,000-$1 million

Linebackers

Typical range: $300,000-$700,000

Cornerbacks

Typical range: $400,000-$900,000

Safeties

Typical range: $300,000-$900,000
One contributing factor to the top of the safety market this offseason: Ohio State, Ole Miss and Georgia all needed to sign multiple starters via the portal. Add in two more coveted playmakers in LSU's Ty Benefield and Oregon's Koi Perich and you end up with lots of competitive recruitments.

Kickers

Typical range: $50,000-$200,000

Punters

Typical range: $50,000-$150,000

Long-snappers

Typical range: $10,000-$50,000

I love the $10MM a year coaches whining about "unsustainable".

:lol:
 
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